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Ilia vs Max: Who was winning before the ko?

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I had Max winning before the ko but from what I read and seeing the scorecards I might be mistaken. Most people seem to give the second round to Ilia. So I wanna get your opinion.

I gave Ilia the first round, albeit very narrowly.

I gave Max the second round and in the third I had the impression Max started to pull away. Max seemed to gain momentum in the striking.

How did you see it?
 
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It was 1-1. Super close, could have scored it either way but that was mine. Topuria was landing the better shots and looked super dangerous but Max had volume.

I thought Max got dropped in round 1 but it may have been a slip. He also got taken down pretty clean
 
Max is looks uncomfortable in the cage. He had to keep striking to keep Ilia away so he was breathing heavily after round 2.

He may have won the first round but 2-3 seems Ilia.
 
humperdoo said:
Max is looks uncomfortable in the cage. He had to keep striking to keep Ilia away so he was breathing heavily after round 2.

He may have won the first round but 2-3 seems Ilia.
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Pretty much, I think Max always looked in danger of eating a bomb and then it happened.
 
low kicks were also doing their part, this is also a point for Topuria winning in the long run
 
Topuria was winning the rounds, but I felt like Max was starting to find his groove and looked ready to start having more success.

Then Topuria just flattened him.
 
chinarice said:
Ilia was winning officially.
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Honestly that means very little these days but that's another conversation. So I am not sure Max was winning but I think many are still creating a fictional character by saying Max was not hurting ilia or that Ilia was not going to have problems if he did not get max out of there as his pace was crazy aggressive and wrestling was probably starting to not be a viable option the more they both tiered. They both looked very pensive during the breaks and Max hurt his nose with the jabs which also was becoming a puzzle he knew he needed to solve. Because of the Sig strikes Max landed it should of been 1 each which 1 judge got right even though it does not matter as judging in Abu and the US are both starting to make MMA closer to boxing in the 80's which like I said is another story. Ilia is very good and I 100% think Alex can beat him but he is going to need to change it up and study how to solve Ilia just as Ilia solved them.


edit: Ilia also said he would knock him out in the first which he did not so I hope people call him on that. I like the guy but he needs to fight more than once a year considering he is retiring undefeated and double champ by 2026. I hope he just fights and stops talking so he does not end up like Conor.

edit2: Max seemed gutted after the fight, I wish these guys could just laugh that shit off and go party.
 
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wrb said:
Honestly that means very little these days but that's another conversation. So I am not sure Max was winning but I think many are still creating a fictional character by saying Max was not hurting illia or that Illia was not going to have problems if he did not get max out of there as his pace was crazy aggressive and wrestling was probably starting to not be a viable option the more they both tiered. They both looked very pensive during the breaks and Max hurt his nose with the jabs which also was becoming a puzzle he knew he needed to solve. Because of the Sig strikes Max landed it should of been 1 each which 1 judge got right even though it does not matter as judging in Abu and the US are both starting to make MMA closer to boxing in the 80's which like I said is another story. Illia is very good and I 100% think Alex can beat him but he is going to need to change it up and study how to solve Ilia just as Illia solved them.
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What do you mean? It is literally the entire premise of the thread lol

"Who was winning before the ko?" We don't even need to ask this.. we have the official scorecards available and ilia was up 2-0.

Everything else is just an opinion and not relevant.
 
The Accuser said:
I had Max winning before the ko but from what I read and seeing the scorecards I might be mistaken. So I wanna get your opinion.

I gave Ilia the first round, albeit very narrowly.

I gave Max the second round and in the third I had the impression Max started to pull away. Max seemed to gain momentum in the striking.

How did you see it?
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I had it 1-1 but it felt like the kicks were bothering Max and Ilia was landing the more significant strikes. He was getting his timing down, finding his shots, putting combinations together.
 
chinarice said:
What do you mean? It is literally the entire premise of the thread lol

"Who was winning before the ko?" We don't even need to ask this.. we have the official scorecards available and ilia was up 2-0.

Everything else is just an opinion and not relevant.
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Its wrong man look at the stats, they were wrong I think and this is about what I think. Very close fight but its hard for me to see how they did not give max a round with stats like he was producing.t

Also one judge scored it like I was seeing it which only reinforces that it was anybody's fight until it was ilias.
 
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Max was winning 100 %. It's not really up for debate, he landed the better shots, the judges are wrong. We were just waiting for the inevitable KO shot, that's why it felt like Ilia was more dominant. He wasn't. It's the anticipation.
 
wrb said:
Its wrong man look at the stats, they were wrong I think and this is about what I think. Very close fight but its hard for me to see how they did not give max a round with stats like he was producing.
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Because the rounds were close. "Look at the stats"? Why? If max landed a couple more strikes, it doesn't mean he won.
 
Objectively Correct said:
Max was winning 100 %. It's not really up for debate, he landed the better shots, the judges are wrong. We were just waiting for the inevitable KO shot, that's why it felt like Ilia was more dominant. He wasn't. It's the anticipation.
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He officially was losing and its not really up for debate.. we have the official scorecards of 2x 20-18 scores and one 19-19. He wasn't winning on any scorecard.
 
I have it even before the KO, not that it matters. My first view, I had max up by two, but I'm biased.

Objectively Correct said:
If you're not interested in conversation and opinions then shut the fuck up and get out of the thread, easy solution :)
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It is always funny to see someone arguing with someone that I've got on ignore. You can only see one side of the argument, but it usually escalates.
 
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