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If you are Volkanovski, would you even want to fight Topuria again?

No, Volk is old and he shouldn't fight Top again. But Topuria has been eating shots left and right in every single one of his last bouts. He's far from unstoppable, just has a young chin and a well-rounded game (offensive boxing, offensive wrestling, and decent cardio).

Max and Volk touched him at will, but they're both badly pillow-fisted. Emmett? He had the power, but he was 38 years old (Top 26, so it's a massive speed diff).

The fact that a version of Max that has absorbed, by far, the most strikes in UFC history was able to touch him so much (meaning he has a lot of miles on him, so he's practically old), and drained out of his wits, shows that Ilia's defensive boxing is bad.

The fact that an elderly Volk that had gotten knocked out months earlier, and was never rewinning the FW title (he was 36 when he fought Ilia, no one has ever won a title after 34 in the lower weight classes) touched him up easily, shows once more, Ilia's defensive boxing sucks.

The only fighter he was able to dodge the big strikes from was a 38-year-old Josh Emmett. And even then, he still absorbed 87 poorly thrown strikes from Emmett (the good ones didn't land, so Topuria didn't get knocked out).

Topuria is fighting against grandpas. Once he fights against an actually young rising prospect, someone young like him, he'll be in big trouble.
 
No, Volk is old and he shouldn't fight Top again. But Topuria has been eating shots left and right in every single one of his last bouts. He's far from unstoppable, just has a young chin and a well-rounded game (offensive boxing, offensive wrestling, and decent cardio).

Max and Volk touched him at will, but they're both badly pillow-fisted. Emmett? He had the power, but he was 38 years old (Top 26, so it's a massive speed diff).

The fact that a version of Max that has absorbed, by far, the most strikes in UFC history was able to touch him so much (meaning he has a lot of miles on him, so he's practically old), and drained out of his wits, shows that Ilia's defensive boxing is bad.

The fact that an elderly Volk that had gotten knocked out months earlier, and was never rewinning the FW title (he was 36 when he fought Ilia, no one has ever won a title after 34 in the lower weight classes) touched him up easily, shows once more, Ilia's defensive boxing sucks.

The only fighter he was able to dodge the big strikes from was a 38-year-old Josh Emmett. And even then, he still absorbed 87 poorly thrown strikes from Emmett (the good ones didn't land, so Topuria didn't get knocked out).

Topuria is fighting against grandpas. Once he fights against an actually young rising prospect, someone young like him, he'll be in big trouble.

This is revisionist history at a laughable level. I don't think Volk should fight Topuria again either, but your description of his opponents is insanely misleading. Pillow fisted Max had just come off sending Gaethje into the shadow realm. Sure Volk had lost, but up a weight class to the guy who is literally the most dominant champ in the UFC right now. And old man Emmett? Oh yea, he just came back off getting destroyed by Topuria and had one of the nastiest one punch KO's of all time against Mitchell.

Each one of these guys was a killer in their own way, and none of them have shown major signs of being washed up. Yet, Topuria not only beat them all, but absolutely destroyed them. Yes, he gets hit, but his defense is not terrible. Max isn't a grandpa. Volk isn't a grandpa. Emmett is closer, but incredibly dangerous still, as evidenced by what he did to Mitchell.

Who is the young rising prospect that's going to dethrone Topuria? I'd love to hear about them, and how they'd do it.
 
I thought Volk did well until he got caught against the cage.

Topuria also hasn't knocked out everyone he's fought.

If Volk can avoid being put to sleep, I think he's got a real chance.

He was doing well until he went to sleep, and that's the problem. Topuria has KO'd everyone in the UFC except for Zalal in his debut, and Emmett, who he absolutely brutalized in a fight that could have been stopped at a couple different points without much controversy. I don't see how Volk could avoid his power for 5 rounds, or make the pace so insane that Topuria got tired without taking some huge risks of getting KO'd.
 
This is revisionist history at a laughable level. I don't think Volk should fight Topuria again either, but your description of his opponents is insanely misleading. Pillow fisted Max had just come off sending Gaethje into the shadow realm. Sure Volk had lost, but up a weight class to the guy who is literally the most dominant champ in the UFC right now. And old man Emmett? Oh yea, he just came back off getting destroyed by Topuria and had one of the nastiest one punch KO's of all time against Mitchell.

Each one of these guys was a killer in their own way, and none of them have shown major signs of being washed up. Yet, Topuria not only beat them all, but absolutely destroyed them. Yes, he gets hit, but his defense is not terrible. Max isn't a grandpa. Volk isn't a grandpa. Emmett is closer, but incredibly dangerous still, as evidenced by what he did to Mitchell.

Who is the young rising prospect that's going to dethrone Topuria? I'd love to hear about them, and how they'd do it.

Max only sent Gaethje to the shadow realm because:
1. It was the last few seconds of the fight, so Gaethje had absorbed countless strikes, and more importantly, he threw all of his defense out window (again, because it was the last seconds of the fight).
2. Gaethje got fouled numerous times, including an eyepoke, which made it much more difficult for him to see the hit that got him (the ones you don't see hurt more). An eyepoke compromises defense severely.

As for Volk losing to the so-called most dominant champ (Islam, who went life-and-death with an elderly Poirier), yes, I don't deny this. It's not so much about who Volk lost against, it's the fact that he had gotten knocked out, and he fought Top just months after that.

And yes, Emmett KOed Mitchell, a wrestler. Not a striker, but a wrestler. Meanwhile, like I said, he wasn't able to knock out Topuria because Top is a striker and was like 12 years younger (massive speed diff). An old man striker can knock out a wrestler at any age (in the context of a striking battle), but an old man striker can't do the same to a young man striker at will.

I don't know who the young rising prospect is that's going to dethrone Top. Sadly, the Featherweight division right now doesn't exactly have the freshest fighters in the world.
 
I want Volk vs Dustin/Justin

Been saying this for a while, I needs this
 
Max only sent Gaethje to the shadow realm because:
1. It was the last few seconds of the fight, so Gaethje had absorbed countless strikes, and more importantly, he threw all of his defense out window (again, because it was the last seconds of the fight).
2. Gaethje got fouled numerous times, including an eyepoke, which made it much more difficult for him to see the hit that got him (the ones you don't see hurt more). An eyepoke compromises defense severely.

As for Volk losing to the so-called most dominant champ (Islam, who went life-and-death with an elderly Poirier), yes, I don't deny this. It's not so much about who Volk lost against, it's the fact that he had gotten knocked out, and he fought Top just months after that.

And yes, Emmett KOed Mitchell, a wrestler. Not a striker, but a wrestler. Meanwhile, like I said, he wasn't able to knock out Topuria because Top is a striker and was like 12 years younger (massive speed diff). An old man striker can knock out a wrestler at any age (in the context of a striking battle), but an old man striker can't do the same to a young man striker at will.

I don't know who the young rising prospect is that's going to dethrone Top. Sadly, the Featherweight division right now doesn't exactly have the freshest fighters in the world.

Lol. Stop making excuses man

Max was the one risking everything in that exchange against Gaethje, up a weight class, against a killer, and he landed one of the best KO's of the year. Stop with the "he was fouled" bullshit.

Trying to downplay how dominant Islam has been just completely outs you as a garbage troll. The man has subbed Oliveira, decisioned Volk, KO'd Volk, and subbed Poirier, in his last 4 fights. Fuck off. Volk had been untouchable at 145 until Topuria KO'd him.

I thought you said Emmett was a grandpa? Bryce Mitchell a great wrestler in his prime should have disposed of him no problem, right? Guess what? Topuria is a better wrestler AND striker than both of them, by miles. That's why he destroyed them both with ease.

You don't know who the rising prospect that's going to dethrone Topuria is, because he's only 27, and there's literally no one on the roster right now that would be favored over him at 145.
 
Moving up would probably be better at this point for a few more entertaining fights against other older guys at LW then call it a career. I think he actually would have won the 1st time if the fight had been the summer before when he fought Rodriguez instead of jumping right back into camp like a month after getting decapitated in like 2 minutes, and possibly even still if he had another fight in between to get some confidence back. He was outlanding Topuria somewhat comfortably but would only throw a couple strikes and then back straight up with his chin out, when he usually keeps pressure on big punchers.

I'll still watch it like I do almost every title fight, but a 36 year old FW rematching a guy who already KO'd him after a year layoff isn't exactly the kind of thing that does wonder for timing or confidence.
 
Lol. Stop making excuses man

Max was the one risking everything in that exchange against Gaethje, up a weight class, against a killer, and he landed one of the best KO's of the year. Stop with the "he was fouled" bullshit.

Trying to downplay how dominant Islam has been just completely outs you as a garbage troll. The man has subbed Oliveira, decisioned Volk, KO'd Volk, and subbed Poirier, in his last 4 fights. Fuck off. Volk had been untouchable at 145 until Topuria KO'd him.

I thought you said Emmett was a grandpa? Bryce Mitchell a great wrestler in his prime should have disposed of him no problem, right? Guess what? Topuria is a better wrestler AND striker than both of them, by miles. That's why he destroyed them both with ease.

You don't know who the rising prospect that's going to dethrone Topuria is, because he's only 27, and there's literally no one on the roster right now that would be favored over him at 145.

Don't get your panties in a bunch. This isn't about Islam. Yes, Islam has been dominant, but dominant in the sense that he has won, not in the sense that he has been dominant in those victories (a declining Volk with a full camp almost beat him, and a 35 year-old Poirier also made him fight for his life). In all likelihood, we're about to see Islam lose his title, whether you like it or not. Arman already put the heat on him in his early twenties, he might just put the nail on the coffin now (and I don't even like Arman). But again, this isn't about Islam. The point is that Volk had just gotten KOed, it doesn't matter if it was Islam or Artem Lobov who did it.

So Volk had been untouchable at 145, and this was the Volk who fought Topuria, because they're fighting at 145? Okay, so we're just going to pretend like the Volk who fights at 145 didn't take the damage he did at 155? So Volk at 145 and 155 are literally two different people? Twin brothers, or do they come from alternate universes? Because that "Volk who was untouchable at 145" did get touched up at 155, and badly. It did happen. Him going down to 145 doesn't somehow make him a different person. He had just gotten knocked out months prior, and everyone was saying it was a mistake for him to try to bounce back so quickly, and you know for a fact people were saying this. So not only was he elderly when he fought Top by FW standards, but he was also concussed.

And yeah, Emmett was a grandpa, I stand by that. Power is the last thing that goes. It's not surprising at all that he KOed Bryce Mitchell, who is a wrestler (not a "great" one like you said, though).

I highly doubt Topuria is a better striker than Emmett. He absorbed 87 significant strikes from elderly Emmett and couldn't even put him out, despite having a 12 year youth advantage. As for him being a better wrestler than Bryce, sure, I agree... that ain't a tall order. Like, at all.

And exactly, Top is 27, I am glad you're finally opening your eyes. He's 27, in a division full of relics of the past.
 
Porier vs Makhachev wasn't nearly as close as you're making it seem. Fighting for his life? You make it sound like Dustin nearly won or was going to win.

Islam still won the fight fairly convincingly. He just did not run through him in round one like some people thought he might.
 
How often does the older fighter win in rematches like these? The deck would be stacked against Volk extremely hard in this rematch.
 
Volk could quite possibly lose to any of the top 5 … so if you’re going to lose - might as well lose to the champ

Losing to Diego Lopez would look worse - and I would pick Diego to finish him via sub or KO as silly as that sounds

Age matters

Volk in his prime got rocked every fight once , but fought through it … he can’t do that against a killer like topuria …

So his choice to die against topuria has the least shame

*make no mistake - Topuria will finish him
Again though - bet the house
 
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Volk could quite possibly lose to any of the top 5 … so if you’re going to lose - might as well lose to the champ

Losing to Diego Lopez would look worse - and I would lick Diego to finish him via sub or KO

So this has the least shame

*make no mistake - Topuria will finish him
Again though - bet the house
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If I was Volk, probably.

If I was me, which I am, making decisions for Volk, which I am not, probably not.
 
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