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Crime If Trump committed a crime, should he be prosecuted?

Assuming Trump had committed a crime, should he be charged?


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why not prosecuting him if he committed a crime? he is equal to anyone else, nah?
This.
The concept of a untouchable king shouldn't be a thing in the modern western world
But only go after him if there's actual hard proof.
 
My take is that crime should be investigated and, if warranted, charges should be brought and individuals prosecuted no matter who they are including POTUS. That doesn't mean that sentencing for a misdemeanor needs to be anything more than probation but also means that serious crimes demand punishment in line with the crime.

Wealth, privilege, and power keep people from suffering the same fate as us pleebs when they commit a crime.

Look at Jeffrey Epstein getting his sweet plea deal from U.S. Attorney for Florida Alexander Acosta.

Former First Lady and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton committed a criminally punishable offense; housing classified info on her unclassified machine. She got a pass from FBI Director James Comey.

Al Sharpton has owed roughly 10 million dollars to the IRS through the years in personal and business related back taxes and was allowed to remain free to ride in limousines and dine at 3 star Michelin rated Alinea in Chicago.
 
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Not holding him accountable sets a terrible precedent.

Precedent has been set. Look to William Jefferson Clinton's impeachment. He lied under oath to a Federal Grand Jury, was charged with Obstruction of Justice, and suffered no ill consequences because only 5 Democrats had the integrity to hold him accountable for his perjury and attempted obstruction of Justice. The Dems let him walk away unpunished and still in power.

If a President can jam a cigar into an intern's vagina during working hours within the White House, be charged with sexual harassment, lie about it all under oath and remain in office then I can't imagine what a POTUS has to do to actually suffer consequences for their crimes or immoral actions.
 
It's a really tough question, for reasons others have already laid out. I answered yes, but I think it kind of depends on the nature of the crime and the evidence. Chait wrote a good piece on the issue:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/donald-trump-criminal-prosecution.html

Spells out the issue here:

The prospect of an electorally defeated Trump, though glorious, would immediately set off a conflict between two fundamental democratic values: the rule of law and mutual toleration. The rule of law is a banal yet utterly foundational concept that the law is a set of rights and obligations, established in advance, that apply equally to everybody. It is an ideal rather than a lived reality. Black America, to take one obvious example, has never experienced equal treatment from institutions like the police and the courts. But this serves only to illustrate its essential value. The civil-rights movement has consisted in large part of fighting to extend the protection of the rule of law to Black people.

The experience of Black racial oppression shows that the absence of the rule of law is a pervasive, terrifying insecurity. A society without the rule of law is one in which the strong prey upon the weak. The small-scale version is a town where you need the local warlord or mafia boss to solve any problem or dispute; the nation-state version is Vladimir Putin’s Russia, where the mafia is the government and bribery is endemic.

Mutual toleration means that political opponents must accept the legitimacy and legality of their opponents. If elected leaders can send their opponents to prison and otherwise discredit them, then leaders are afraid to relinquish power lest they be imprisoned themselves. The criminalization of politics is a kind of toxin that breaks down the cooperation required to sustain a democracy. This, along with the misogyny, was what made Trump’s embrace of “Lock her up!” so terrifying in 2016. He was already using the threat of imprisoning opponents as a political-campaign tool.

If the government is run by lawbreakers, though, the state faces a dilemma: Either the principle of equal treatment under the law or the tradition of a peaceful transition of power will be sacrificed. It’s hard to imagine any outcome under which the rule of law survives Trump unscathed.

One of the most corrosive effects of Trumpism upon the political culture has been to detach the law from any behavioral definition and to attach it to political identity. As Trump likes to say, “The other side is where there are crimes.” He has trained his supporters to understand this statement as a syllogism: If Trump’s opponents are doing something, it’s a crime; if Trump and his allies are doing it, it isn’t. The chants, which applied enough pressure to force James Comey to announce a reinvestigation of Hillary Clinton in October 2016, simply to protect the FBI from being delegitimized by Republicans after an expected Clinton victory, showed how the field had been sown for Trump even before he took office.

It is because Trump views the law as a morally empty category, a weapon for the powerful to use against their enemies, that he has spent his presidency calling for the prosecution and/or imprisonment of a constantly growing list of adversaries: Joe Biden and Barack Obama (for “spying” and “treason”), House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff (for paraphrasing Trump’s Ukraine phone call in a speech), John Kerry (for allegedly violating the Logan Act), John Bolton (for writing a tell-all book), Joe Scarborough (for the death of a former staffer), Nancy Pelosi (for tearing up his State of the Union Address), and social-media firms (for having too many liberals). Trump has alleged a variety of crimes against at least four former FBI officials and three Obama-era national-security officials.

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No, it's a very bad precedent to set.

The crime would need to be ridiculously bad to make an exception.
 
Sure, right after we prosecute Bush, Obama, and Hillary Clinton.
 
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What if he knowingly allowed torture of prisoners of war or if he knew about the torturing of prisoners of war and was in a position to stop said torture of prisoners of war. Both of these violate the Geneva Conventions. Should he be prosecuted?
 
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What if he knowingly allowed torture of prisoners of war or if he knew about the torturing of prisoners of war. Both of these violent the Geneva Conventions. Should he be prosecuted?


I got a quote notification for this post, are you asking me specifically?
 
absolutely.

you break the law, you should pay the consequences.

no on is Above the Law.

well, besides Steven Seagal.

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It depends on crimes. Presidents should get a pass on minor crimes or if they were on the level of the predecessors. Because it can set a dangerous precedent and can lead to a country transitioning to totalitarian in a couple presidential terms.
 
He is failing to uphold his oath of office, and to uphold the constitution. He also maybe guilty of sedition.
 
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