If NFL is A level athleticism

[Reydereyes]

Oh, if you’re simply suggesting that Americans are ignorant towards non-US athletes and athletes from non-US domiciled sports, then I fully agree.

In the same vein as most Americans being unable to name a single real footballer from
America, most of the world could only recognise a handful of basketball players throughout the entire history of the sport. Since you’re speaking from your own personal experience, I can confidently say that if Lebron James bumped into me in the street, I would have no idea who he was. I would recognise Jordan (mainly from the film Space Jam) and Shaq though.

Americans are ignorant in general, they wouldn't even be able to spot Germany in a map, you can't expect them to recognize german athletes lmao

 

[BLuR]

Yeah no shit sherlock. What would you think would happen if we funneled all the potential soccer players of the world into MMA? The flaw in your thinking is that you assume for sure there haven't ever been a world class A level athlete in MMA. There is no reason why for example GSP, Anderson or Fedor wouldn't be in that category. I mean they train for MMA so their athleticism is going to be tailored for that so they will look and be different than NFL players. Jon Jones can't dunk for example but he doesn't need to be able to but I bet he could if he trained for it.

LOL trained to dunk. He is 6'4" and you don't need to be trained to dunk. You either can do it or you can't. Their are high schoolers that can dunk with no training.

Chuck Lidell and all these other bums would never be champions if real athletes fought.

 

[Khaiser]

Glad we both agree that twitter followers argument wasn't a very good one.

Instagram isn’t Twitter old man.

And looking at social media followers as a measure of global recognition is infinitely better than simply going “dUh I DonT kNow ANY geRmaN aThleTeS so THe resT oF the WORld MuSt NoT”

 

[Khaiser]

LOL trained to dunk. He is 6'4" and you don't need to be trained to dunk. You either can do it or you can't. Their are high schoolers that can dunk with no training.

Chuck Lidell and all these other bums would never be champions if real athletes fought.

What a load of shit <45>

If you genuinely believe that slam dunking a basketball isn’t something that can be improved with practice, then you’re a dribbling retard.

 

[Khaiser]

https://sportsshow.net/highest-paying-sports-world/

https://www.rulesofsport.com/faq/what-is-the-highest-paid-sport-in-the-world.html

https://hivisasa.com/posts/top-10-highest-paying-sports

https://www.sportseon.com/top10/highest-paying-sports/

Basketball is consistently considered the highest paying sport.

Except it’s not.

The highest paid athletes in the world are elite boxers and real footballers. That is a fact.

The NBA is the highest paying sports league in the world, that is also a fact, but there are significantly fewer players in the NBA than there are in real football leagues across the world.

 

[BLuR]

What a load of shit <45>

If you genuinely believe that slam dunking a basketball isn’t something that can be improved with practice, then you’re a dribbling retard.

You don't need to train to do a basic dunk

 

[Khaiser]

You don't need to train to do a basic dunk

You absolutely do.

If you accept that dunking can be improved upon by training (which it can) then practice increases your ability to do it.

Kicking a real football as far as possible is a skill that can be improved upon. People in the UK could kick one further than people in the US on average simply because we’re used to it, not because we’re genetically predisposed to have stronger legs/better kicking ability.

 

[Takamine86]

What a load of shit <45>

If you genuinely believe that slam dunking a basketball isn’t something that can be improved with practice, then you’re a dribbling retard.

A standard dunk doesn't take much skill. You're talking like we are asking people to do a 360 windmill dunk. A standard dunk requires jumping high enough and holding the ball and putting it through the hoop. Imagine holding a basketball and putting it inside of a basket. That is all you are doing. Except this basket is set at 10 feet high. So you have to be able to jump high enough to put the ball in. There are plenty of people in the world who have never held a basketball in their lives but are tall enough and or jump high enough to dunk a basketball on a standard NBA height rim. It is obvious that you know absolutely nothing about Basketball.

 

[Takamine86]

Except it’s not.

The highest paid athlete in the world is a boxer, Floyd Mawyeather. That is a fact.

The NBA is the highest paying sports league in the world, that is also a fact, but there are significantly fewer players in the NBA than there are in real football leagues across the world.

Fixed.

The highest paid athlete in the world is a boxer, Floyd Mayweather. Soccer is 2nd.

The highest paying sports league is the world is the NBA. Soccer isn't even top 3.

So if you want the potential to be the highest paid athlete, you go to boxing.
But if you want to go to the highest paying sports league, you join the NBA.

 

[bigpunch]

Fixed.

The highest paid athlete in the world is a boxer, Floyd Mayweather. Soccer is 2nd.

The highest paying sports league is the world is the NBA. Soccer isn't even top 3.

So if you want the potential to be the highest paid athlete, you go to boxing.
But if you want to go to the highest paying sports league, you join the NBA.

According to Forbes #1 is Messi. #2 is Cristiano Ronaldo and #3 is Neymar
https://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/

So the top 3 highest paid athletes are "soccer" players

 

[Khaiser]

A standard dunk doesn't take much skill. You're talking like we are asking people to do a 360 windmill dunk. A standard dunk requires jumping high enough and holding the ball and putting it through the hoop. Imagine holding a basketball and putting it inside of a basket. That is all you are doing. Except this basket is set at 10 feet high. So you have to be able to jump high enough to put the ball in. There are plenty of people in the world who have never held a basketball in their lives but are tall enough and or jump high enough to dunk a basketball on a standard NBA height rim. It is obvious that you know absolutely nothing about Basketball.

It is obvious you know nothing about skill training.

Let me ask you this (and I would appreciate if you didn’t duck this question) - kicking a real football as hard as someone can could be used as a measure of someone’s kicking power. Every able bodied person has the ability to kick a real football. What athletes do you think are likely to kick the football with the most power?

If you play basketball, you will have a much better chance of dunking than someone of a comparable size who doesn’t.

If you play football, you will have a much better ability to kick a football than someone who doesn’t.

 

[Takamine86]

According to Forbes #1 is Messi. #2 is Cristiano Ronaldo and #3 is Neymar
https://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/

So the top 3 highest paid athletes are "soccer" players

Just stop. It's embarrassing. Floyd Mayweather made 275 million in one night with 10 million in endorsements.

Floyd's 285 million > Messi's 127 million

Boxing has the highest paid athlete in the world

 

[bigpunch]

Just stop. It's embarrassing. Floyd Mayweather made 275 million in one night with 10 million in endorsements.

Floyd's 285 million > Messi's 127 million

Boxing has the highest paid athlete in the world

Wasn't that in 2017? The Forbes list is about 2019

 

[Khaiser]

Fixed.

The highest paid athlete in the world is a boxer, Floyd Mayweather. Soccer is 2nd.

The highest paying sports league is the world is the NBA. Soccer isn't even top 3.

So if you want the potential to be the highest paid athlete, you go to boxing.
But if you want to go to the highest paying sports league, you join the NBA.

Again, this demonstrates a complete lack of understanding about sports in general. The NBA is the top league on a single (albeit massive) country. Football is a global sport. It’s like comparing the UFC to boxing in terms of pay, whereas the logical comparison would be MMA and boxing.

The average salary in the NBA is higher than any other sporting league. The NBA has 30 teams of 15 players giving you a full player roster on 450. These players earn on average $7.7m per annum. The next tier, the G-League sees players earn a pitiful $35,000 per season.

For comparison, the English Premier League has 20 teams each with a squad size of 25 players, giving a full roster of 500, with an average salary of $3.9m. Each of these 20 teams also has under 19, under 21, or in some cases under 23 teams - all of which will contain players paid on average significantly more than the $35k per season received by G-League players. To give you an idea for how much the players on these youth teams might pay, Martin Odegard signed a contract with Real Madrid for £80,000 per week at the age of 16.

The second tier of English football, the Championship, contains 24 teams each with a squad of 25, giving a full roster of 600, with an average salary of $1.7m per season. There are two more professional tiers below this.

This is in England alone (not even the whole UK) and doesn’t begin to consider the money on offer in Spain, Italy, France, Germany, USA, China or the UAE.

 

[Khaiser]

Wasn't that in 2017? The Forbes list is about 2019

This is correct. Unfortunately some here have a very loose grasp of statistics.

Lebron James was the 8th highest paid athlete in the world in 2019. The top 3 were all real footballers. I’m fact you have to go back to 2013 to find a basketballers with higher pay than the highest paid footballer.

 

[Takamine86]

It is obvious you know nothing about skill training.

Let me ask you this (and I would appreciate if you didn’t duck this question) - kicking a real football as hard as someone can could be used as a measure of someone’s kicking power. Every able bodied person has the ability to kick a real football. What athletes do you think are likely to kick the football with the most power?

If you play basketball, you will have a much better chance of dunking than someone of a comparable size who doesn’t.

If you play football, you will have a much better ability to kick a football than someone who doesn’t.

Do you know what a standard dunk is? It is not a complex dunk that requires a bunch of skill. All that is required of a standard dunk is the ability to hold a basketball and jump high enough to put a ball into a basket. Thats it. People all over the world who have never held a basketball in their entire lives are able to do a standard dunk because they either jump high enough and or are tall enough. The only skill involved in a standard dunk is can you hold a ball and put it in a basket. The rest is reliant on athletic ability, can you jump high enough to put the ball in the basket.

Your analogy is horrible. You don't have to be a pro basketball player to be able to do a standard dunk and you don't have to be a pro soccer player to be able to kick a soccer ball. Nobody was asking Jon to do a better dunk than Lebron James, just a standard dunk for a man who is 6'4 and 84inch wingspan. <Lmaoo>
I actually cut Jon slack since he was wearing those tight jeans.

 

[Khaiser]

Do you know what a standard dunk is? It is not a complex dunk that requires a bunch of skill. All that is required of a standard dunk is the ability to hold a basketball and jump high enough to put a ball into a basket. Thats it. People all over the world who have never held a basketball in their entire lives are able to do a standard dunk because they either jump high enough and or are tall enough. The only skill involved in a standard dunk is can you hold a ball and put it in a basket. The rest is reliant on athletic ability, can you jump high enough to put the ball in the basket.

Your analogy is horrible. You don't have to be a pro basketball player to be able to do a standard dunk and you don't have to be a pro soccer player to be able to kick a soccer ball. Nobody was asking Jon to do a better dunk than Lebron James, just a standard dunk for a man who is 6'4 and 84inch wingspan. <Lmaoo>
I actually cut Jon slack since he was wearing those tight jeans.

The analogy is bang on. Your understanding of the analogy is astonishingly bad.

Since you’ve again avoided answering any of my questions, I’ll ask one more time:
What athletes do you think are likely to kick a real football with the most power?
Or let me dumb it down for you further - what athletes do you think are able to punch the hardest?

 

[Khaiser]

And if you could finally put on your big girl pants and provide the long awaited answer to the Jon Jones vs Arthur Jones question, that would be great too son.

 

[Takamine86]

Wasn't that in 2017? The Forbes list is about 2019

Messi is playing out the same renewed contract he signed in 2017 where Mayweather took home 275 million in one night and Messi is still playing until 2021 to receive to total of his contract. No matter how you spin it, 275 million (285 millions with endorsements) in one night is more than Messi's 92 million (127 million with endorsements) in a span of a couple years. The highest pay of any single athletes is still Floyd Mayweather with 275 million (285 million including endorsements) in one night.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...5-million-for-one-night-of-work/#5fe4b26f6e4d

 

[Khaiser]

Messi is playing out the same renewed contract he signed in 2017 where Mayweather took home 275 million in one night and Messi is still playing until 2021 to receive to total of his contract. No matter how you spin it, 275 million (285 millions with endorsements) in one night is more than Messi's 92 million (127 million with endorsements) in a span of a couple years. The highest pay of any single athletes is still Floyd Mayweather with 275 million (285 million including endorsements) in one night.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...5-million-for-one-night-of-work/#5fe4b26f6e4d

Messi’s total contract isn’t worth the $127m <45> He gets that sum per season for the length of his contract, not at commencement or completion. Amazing I need to actually point that out.

Fact - the highest paid athlete in any single
Night was Floyd Mayweather.

Fact - The 3 highest paid athletes of 2019 were all real footballers.