If Nelson vs Carwin had happened

nelson via a trifecta of chin, power, and cardio (compared to carwin)... maybe a carwin gnp easy victory though. That wrasslin.
 
Carwin would have lost 100%.

At that moment, Roy was just getting ready to receive and survive savage beatings from :
-JDS, Werdum, Miocic, Mir.

He endured all of them.

Carwin on the other hand has cardio for 1 round. Thats it.

Dont fool yourselves, Roy was going to win 100%. Plus Gonzaga dropped Carwin, imagine a Roy overhand right. Nuff said
 
It would be 50/50 . Carwin is really overrated on this site?

Do you guys consider him a roid user?
 
chiefwiggum said:
It would be 50/50 . Carwin is really overrated on this site?

Do you guys consider him a roid user?
Click to expand...

If you look at pictures of him when he was very early on in his MMA career he was much MUCH bigger than he was when he was in the UFC. I'm sure he's been linked to PED's at some point in his career but while he was making his run with the UFC, he looked much smaller and softer than he did early on. I definitely don't think he was juicing while he was in the UFC... Just my opinion
 
Could have gone either way but I would think Carwin by KO.
 
I think Carwin was one of the biggest cheats of the sport. I think Nelson took it by being able to survive the initial roid burst and winning on cardio.
 
A Psych Major said:
That said as you pointed out he can be nasty in the clinch and Miocic and Werdum had success there against Nelson, I imagine Carwin would too.
Click to expand...

We only saw Carwin do well in the clinch in one fight, right? And it was a short one. I think Carwin is getting credit for a lot of shit he didn't show. He never demonstrated impressive wrestling, he was a really poor striker, his stamina was beyond atrocious, he got subbed by Brock...

What he actually showed was that he was a big, strong dude, who hit hard (including on the ground) and had some basic wrestling skill. That's a good base for can-crushing, but it failed him against the only elite HW he faced, and it wouldn't necessarily be enough to get him past Nelson.

Phenom116 said:
I'm a fan of both fighters. While Big Country may be a big puncher, he still had nowhere near the kind of power that Shane did!
Click to expand...

I'd say that they were about even. Nelson had more standing power because he put more into his shots. Carwin could do damage without much of a load and so was probably the harder ground puncher.

chiefwiggum said:
It would be 50/50 . Carwin is really overrated on this site?
Click to expand...

It's pretty stunning.

chiefwiggum said:
Do you guys consider him a roid user?
Click to expand...

Don't know, don't care.
 
Jack V Savage said:
We only saw Carwin do well in the clinch in one fight, right? And it was a short one. I think Carwin is getting credit for a lot of shit he didn't show. He never demonstrated impressive wrestling, he was a really poor striker, his stamina was beyond atrocious, he got subbed by Brock...

What he actually showed was that he was a big, strong dude, who hit hard (including on the ground) and had some basic wrestling skill. That's a good base for can-crushing, but it failed him against the only elite HW he faced, and it wouldn't necessarily be enough to get him past Nelson.
Click to expand...

And it was against a guy(Mir) who sucks pretty hard in the clinch and got dominated later in the clinch by other fighters(DC, Barnett) so that's a fair point. Still, Nelson has shown some weakness, though perhaps not as much as Mir, so I could see Carwin having success there.

I guess it might be more fair to say it would be close to 50/50
 
A Psych Major said:
And it was against a guy(Mir) who sucks pretty hard in the clinch and got dominated later in the clinch by other fighters(DC, Barnett) so that's a fair point. Still, Nelson has shown some weakness, though perhaps not as much as Mir, so I could see Carwin having success there.

I guess it might be more fair to say it would be close to 50/50
Click to expand...

That's in line with my thinking, though I would have leaned a little more toward Roy.
 
carwin didnt need hail mary punches to split ya wig
 
Jack V Savage said:
We only saw Carwin do well in the clinch in one fight, right? And it was a short one. I think Carwin is getting credit for a lot of shit he didn't show. He never demonstrated impressive wrestling, he was a really poor striker, his stamina was beyond atrocious, he got subbed by Brock...

What he actually showed was that he was a big, strong dude, who hit hard (including on the ground) and had some basic wrestling skill. That's a good base for can-crushing, but it failed him against the only elite HW he faced, and it wouldn't necessarily be enough to get him past Nelson..
Click to expand...

He basically had the benefit of a short career and retirement as soon as holes in his game really started to be exploited. Overall I think Carwin was pretty similar to Fujita when the latter devolped his standup a bit in the early 00's, good enough wrestler to avoid being controlled by great wrestlers when fresh and takedown lesser wrestlers, great chin, limited stand up technique but massive power. Main differences being Carwins GnP was more dangerous whilst Fujitas cardio was better plus his stand up a bit more fluid relative to Shanes.
 
Carwin probably by ud, but also possibly by ko. He had absurd power.
 
This is one of those fights I really wish would've happened. I still think Roy would've cracked Carwin
 
Jack V Savage said:
Why? Nelson has a good chin and was a better overall striker than Carwin. I don't see any reason at all to think that Carwin would have been able to finish Roy in the first round. He never finished anyone that was as hard to finish as Roy.
Click to expand...

And Roy hasn't finished anyone that was as hard to finish as Carwin.

Don't forget Carwin went three rounds with JDS.
 
Jack V Savage said:
That's in line with my thinking, though I would have leaned a little more toward Roy.
Click to expand...

He does have better wins and has been around longer so that's not really crazy but Carwin smashed their common opponent in Mir while Nelson got beat fairly soundly by him. Both got beat up by JDS but I vaguely recall Roy landing on him better than Carwin.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,280,648
Messages
58,307,437
Members
175,999
Latest member
joshvegas

Share this page

Back
Top