If Jones & Shogun fought in 2004

[Georges Hefner]

Would Jones still win?

He was 16/17 around this time. No MMA experience, but plenty of wrestling experience.
In addition to the crazy genetics and high IQ. This is Jon Jones after all.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Prime, pre-knee surgery Shogun? No.

 

[DoubleA012]

Jones likely would have got KOed or at the very least beat to s*** in a decision loss. You're talking Shogun who was a certified killer at that time against a high school student with zero experience.

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

Wow i literally just rewatched jones vs shogun 2 hours ago.
Such brutal domination

Anyway, if it was 2004 id pick Shogun, who became Pride grand prix champ 1 year later and could beat Alistair and rampage

 

[AmericanMMA]

2004 Johny Hendricks wrecks both at the same time

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

2004 Johny Hendricks wrecks both at the same time

But can he beat prime Paddy Pimblett

 

[DkMacaw]

2004 Rual Rosas Jr beats them both.

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

2004 Rual Rosas Jr beats them both.

Raul Rosas Jr
Roy Jones jr
Two goats

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

2006 OWGP Cro Cop destroys every fighter ever, past, present, and future without a doubt. He is the greatest fighter alive.

 

[IneedSometop]

I’m going with the trained professional fighter against the 16 year old with zero combat experience

but Prime Jones beats any version of prime shogun under any rule set

 

[AmericanMMA]

But can he beat prime Paddy Pimblett

I believe he'd do ok

 

[legcramp]

Prime Shogun vs. a high schooler that snitched on people doing weed?

I'd take Matt Riddle over Prime Shogun though.

 

[mjfan23]

Rua then but come on man Jones was a kid back then and maybe not even on gear yet while Rua could have been

 

[Luthien]

Shogun would destroy him

 

[Fight Professor]

Jones on PEDs with eye pokes has a chance under the unified rules.

 

[HuskySamoan]

2006 OWGP Cro Cop destroys every fighter ever, past, present, and future without a doubt. He is the greatest fighter alive.

Besides Karelin, the Big Show and George Foreman.

 

[the ambush]

Shogun's one of the only fighters to ever overwhelm Rampage for that he earned my respect. Always pondered how a rematch would have played out in the UFC.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Shogun's one the only fighters to ever overwhelm Rampage for that he earned my respect. Always pondered how a rematch would have played out in the UFC.

a damn shame the UFC never did that one. ridiculous.

 

[NicholasJBasile]

High school wrestling Matt Riddle defeates them both.

 

[the ambush]

a damn shame the UFC never did that one. ridiculous.

The matchmakers were too busy brainstorming gems like Rampage vs Jardine and Shogun vs Te Huna