If Jones never fought Gane

RockyLockridge said:
yes, and that's what it was. I know because i said it.

RockyLockridge

Thread 'Anyone else eating their crow with extra salt?'

So It's offical. Dana says The LHW belt is up for grabs, and supposedly Jan and Reyes are fighting for it.

Is there anyone here who truly believed that Jones would one day move to heavy weight?

He's been alluding to this since 2013, and it's pretty much always been nothing but hot air. I always thought he didn't have the frame to be a good HW and also his lack of punching power is apparent. I Quite frankly, Could never see him doing good at HW. I Always assumed he thought the same thing.

I think One thing is certain, if Jones goes to HW. He is NEVER coming back to LHW. his career in...
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Here's a thread I made when Jones relinquished the LHW title and moved to HW you can see exactly what people said about him fighting gane or ngannou or fighting again at all.
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A lot of random emotions up in this post

#hate

lol!!
 
Gane was probably the favourite going in, mainly because Jon hadnt fought in years and essentially lost his last fight at a lower weight class. It was an impressive win for Jon, sure.

We all know the ulterior motive here though. Gane is not Tom.
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
That was basically it. Ciryl was supposed to be Jon's biggest test. "He's never fought someone with Gane's striking before! Jon's wrestling doesn't work anymore!" and so on.
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Nah, people knew after frking D1 Francis took Gane down at will making Gane look like the biggest bum in history on the ground, that Gane stood no chance. Of course you’re always gonna have both sides screaming how sure they are about someone winning. Gane said it himself, he wasnt even training any ground game and preparing for his video game world championship, even Jones was surprised he wasnt training but playing video games in one of the ufc vlogs lol.

I dont think Tom is a once in a lifetime kind of fighter, far from that, but the fact that he has any grappling knowledge at all unlike Gane and isnt a washed 50 yrs old and 5 times smaller then Jones alone makes things interesting, unlike basically 90% of opponents Jones faced in his career.
 
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mkess101 said:
"Consensus" LMAO.

There are people here that act like "OMG absolutely EVERYONE was saying Gane would wreck Jones." Yes it was such a unanimously held view...but somehow Jones was the betting favorite. 🤔

Of course the attempt being made by Jones dickriders in selling that bit of revisionist history is to dismiss Jones even needing bother fight Aspinall. (Potentially what you're doing TS, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt that you aren't.

"OMG everyone said Gane would beat Jones and look what happened. No point in just doing that dance again with Aspinall." Serious big DUCK energy.

Jones was the betting favorite over Gane.
Aspinall is the betting favorite over Jones.

If that's the route trying to be taken, quit and don't embarrass yourselves.
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Jones opened as the underdog to Gane because all the chatter was about how he was finally fighting someone who was bigger than he was and who was better on the feet than anyone Jon had ever fought. Then the smart money that doesn't listen to the chatter started betting and Jones ended up the moderate favorite.

As for Aspinall being the favorite over Jones: the fight hasn't even been booked and if ever booked is likely not to be fought until early next year while current bets would mostly be returned at the end of the year, so there's essentially no money being bet and absolutely no smart money being bet, so the odds you can get on a bet are immaterial. In any event and for what it's worth (not much), Aspinall is less of a favorite than Gane was when betting opened on Jones/Gane.

 
jones haters for almost 15 freakin years are always wrong
everytime he fights they gonna find someone
a new hero

damn must be a freakin sad 12-15 years for jones haters
wonder how much money they lost
how much beer they drank because of the depression 🤣
 
Rayess said:
What would have been the consensus here?
"Gane would destroyed Jones!!", "Jones is ducking Gane big time!!"

I'm really curious
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We already did get "Gane will destroy Jones" before the fight because MMA fans are idiots.

We wouldn't have gotten "Jones is ducking Gane" narratives without Gane winning a belt or unless they were booked at some point and fell through on Jon's side

2004 account said:
I know many were making Gane out to be this real killer but the truth is he hadnt proveb himself on the ground before so it was an enigma kinda



I think what nobody counted on was how basic his sub defense was


Jones should get more credit for that win though imo than besting CTE unintelligable mummy Stipe
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What was already proven even before the Jon fight was that he was nowhere near equipped for Jones' grappling. Everyone just seemed to only focus on "Gane is long and can punch, so therefore Jon will struggle"
 
Rayess said:
What would have been the consensus here?
"Gane would destroyed Jones!!", "Jones is ducking Gane big time!!"

I'm really curious
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I think we all hoped for some standup battle, despite seeing that amateurish fight Francis vs Gane, where we saw how poor MMA fighter Gane is... Francis was too, but he progressed a bit after Stipe has taught him some MMA.

Probably good MW wrestler would handle Gane with ease. Khamzat would win faster than Jones :).
 
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Captain Herb said:
I've got to admit that was me. I thought given that he had a year to get ready for Jones, he would train some fucking tdd for god's sake. Of course after the fight we find out 'he's lazy, only trains when he wants, and can't tear himself away from video games'. What a disappointment and waste of an opportunity, he would have tooled Jones if he kept the fight standing up.
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He was saying this stuff even before the Jon fight, so the writing was always on the wall for me

Only Here for Attachments said:
But Jon couldn't even take down Dominick Reyes! Wrestling doesn't work!
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Reyes actually knows what wrestling is though. Not only did he wrestle growing up, but he also continued to train it as a fighter. Gane didn't
 
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bng said:
Before the fight, Gane was super fast, agile, technical HW who handled Ngannou on the feet easily and threw the fight away via ground gayjitsu nonsense.
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I want to ask why do people continue to believe this stupidity but considering your prior point on saying Ngannou was "easily" "handled" on the feet, I see it's not stupidity, you're just purposefully full of shit.
 
ThaiSexPills said:
Feel free to go through my old posts and read my comments.

Nobody with a brain thought the dude who just got grapplefucked by Francis N’Gannou of all people had anything for Jones. He was a cheerypicked matchup that came up once Jones realized he had zero grappling.
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I don’t think it was cherry picked. Ngannou was the plan, but didn’t sign the contract for 8 mil(his own testimony)

He was originally going to fight Stipe in December 2022, but Stipe declined because he wasn’t being paid enough(Per Helwani twitter)

After this, various media outlets started reporting Jones would fight for the belt on march 2023, contingent on whether Ngannou came to an agreement with the ufc or not. If he didn’t, then Gane was the plan B.
 
Rayess said:
What would have been the consensus here?
"Gane would destroyed Jones!!", "Jones is ducking Gane big time!!"

I'm really curious
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Based on how people were acting prior to the fight, it would be: "Gane would have murdered Jones"
 
JBJ was here said:
Jones opened as the underdog to Gane because all the chatter was about how he was finally fighting someone who was bigger than he was and who was better on the feet than anyone Jon had ever fought. Then the smart money that doesn't listen to the chatter started betting and Jones ended up the moderate favorite.

As for Aspinall being the favorite over Jones: the fight hasn't even been booked and if ever booked is likely not to be fought until early next year while current bets would mostly be returned at the end of the year, so there's essentially no money being bet and absolutely no smart money being bet, so the odds you can get on a bet are immaterial. In any event and for what it's worth (not much), Aspinall is less of a favorite than Gane was when betting opened on Jones/Gane.

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And if the fight is actually made, I'll say right now any movement will be that the line widens and Aspinall becomes a bigger favorite. The opposite of what happened with Gane.

I hope I'm wrong of course. Nothing would make me more happy than a bunch of Jones money coming in when people are allowed to get real amounts down on it.
 
icemun said:
A lot of random emotions up in this post

#hate

lol!!
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I dont like being wrong but the most important thing is to take it like a man and learn from it.

jones fought at HW and I used to run up and down on this forum telling everyone jones would never. He shut me up thoroughly.
 
"CYRIL GANE IS GOING TO PUT ON A STRIKING MASTERCLASS AGAINST JONES"

was the most popular thread about it

nope lol
 
He'll never get his due credit, that win is one of the greatest of all time.

Taking the highest % weight jump in the entire sport off a 3 year layoff and made an elite HW who went 5 rounds with Ngannou look like child's play.

Recent affairs have many fans blind with rage and stupidity
 
Of course he was gonna fight Gane. Didn’t you see the Ngannou fight? Gane showed no wrestling aptitude whatsoever. D1 Francis had him airborne and made a ragdoll of him. He looked like a first time scrub on the mat. One of the easiest stylistic match ups Jon’s ever had. You don’t say no to a layup like that.
 
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