If Fedor was 6'5" 265 lbs and his physique was like Ubereem. Would he have been a better fighter?

[Takes Two To Tango]

He'd be good, but probably worse overall if we assume he is trying to fight like how he normally would.

Fedor was undersized, but leveraged his speed, agility, and reflexes massively. He was more athletic than most heavyweights, but had just enough power and skill to make it work. He would lose that if he was Overeem's size.

Fedor had a tougher time with guys closer to his size I would say.

Interesting you say that. So in a way he was better off as a HW and being mostly undersized. It was advantageous to him. And it wouldn't have been wise if he cut weight and went to LHW.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Interesting you say that. So in a way he was better off as a HW and being mostly undersized. It was advantageous to him. And it wouldn't have been wise if he cut weight and went to LHW.

I think he would have been a 205 champ at one point, especially during an era where not all the best 205ers were under the same banner.

But I think his chances of getting caught by something are much higher. A lot of guys at 205 have knockout power and comparable speed. Unlike other heavyweights, he doesn't have a big reach advantage to keep guys far, he has to get in pretty close and risk getting hurt against guys more closer to his size.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I think he would have been a 205 champ at one point, especially during an era where not all the best 205ers were under the same banner.

But I think his chances of getting caught by something are much higher. A lot of guys at 205 have knockout power and comparable speed. Unlike other heavyweights, he doesn't have a big reach advantage to keep guys far, he has to get in pretty close and risk getting hurt against guys more closer to his size.

Well said.

 

[Lee Danger]

he did ok being chubby and relatively short.

Fedor is the peak of mma, the only fighter that at his peak has already everything he needs.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Would Barkley have been the greatest rebounder ever if he was 7 feet tall instead of 6-5"?

 

[moreorless87]

I think he would have been a 205 champ at one point, especially during an era where not all the best 205ers were under the same banner.

But I think his chances of getting caught by something are much higher. A lot of guys at 205 have knockout power and comparable speed. Unlike other heavyweights, he doesn't have a big reach advantage to keep guys far, he has to get in pretty close and risk getting hurt against guys more closer to his size.

I would say fighters like Mirko and Arlovski were as quick and more powerful than anyone at LHW in that era and generally I think more guys at LHW tended to depend on their chins for defence than the best HW's.

Reach wise I would say Fedor actually had a very effective ability to be dangerous from the outside akin to Rumble, watch the 3rd Nog fight and he's able to peice Nog up from outside his boxing range.

If he's really fought all the best guys at LHW for years of course though that would have been a hell of a schedule and upsets may have been possible although I think the power at HW also made them very likely and he overcome Randleman and Fujita having their moments.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

If Lebron James went to MMA instead of basketball he'd be the GOAT MMA fighter.

Can’t deny that

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

I think he would have been a 205 champ at one point, especially during an era where not all the best 205ers were under the same banner.

But I think his chances of getting caught by something are much higher. A lot of guys at 205 have knockout power and comparable speed. Unlike other heavyweights, he doesn't have a big reach advantage to keep guys far, he has to get in pretty close and risk getting hurt against guys more closer to his size.

When he was at his peak Fedor was faster than any LHW ever.

 

[wildchild88]

He had an elastic / explosive style, light on his feet.

If he was uberised, it wouldn't be quite the same.

That considered, he might have been even scarier in a different way. Fedor had the killer instinct.

 

[Wrath of Foamy]

I'd imagine that he'd quit MMA and join the porn industry.

 

[Prex32]

If Lebron James went to MMA instead of basketball he'd be the GOAT MMA fighter.

nope
hes a quitter
cant train heart

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Or would have lost something by being that big and strong? Probably not as quick or not as agile. So in a way he was better off being the size he was as a fighter.

He was an absolute anomaly for a HW MMA fighter.

Thoughts?

No..

Look up my thread on past HW champions of the UFC since the dawn of the title .... There has only been two undisputed champions that meet the 6'5 265lbs criteria in the whole existence of the title...


Being 6'5 and 265lbs plus is not the ideal build for a fighter ....the data proves that...


The champions were Brock and Ngannou for those wondering... .

The sweet spot seems to be 235lbs to 245lbs ... Which is what Fedor weighed ..or around it...

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

No..

Look up my thread on past HW champions of the UFC since the dawn of the title .... There has only been two undisputed champions that meet the 6'5 265lbs criteria in the whole existence of the title...


Being 6'5 and 265lbs plus is not the ideal build for a fighter ....the data proves that...


The champions were Brock and Ngannou for those wondering... .

The sweet spot seems to be 235lbs to 245lbs ... Which is what Fedor weighed ..or around it...

Thanks for your input. I had no idea. That's interesting indeed. What's the ideal height though? If there is.

 

[moreorless87]

When he was at his peak Fedor was faster than any LHW ever.

I would argue really a lot of what desided whether "small HW's" stayed in that division of went to LHW tended to be whether they had the speed/defence to avoid getting hit at HW.

Fedor and Crocop being the obvious example of that, along of course with both having extreme power themselves.

 

[NenadRS]

If Lebron James went to MMA instead of basketball he'd be the GOAT MMA fighter.

He would fail drug tests worse than Jones.

 

[moreorless87]

You could argue Aleks hits that somewhat well although ultimately I think there strenghts were a little different. Besides Aleks not having as strong a grappling background I think his head/foot speed for a man his size was probably even more freakish than his brother. What he lacked physically though was I think Fedors agility, he was fast on his feet and had fast hands but not his brothers hip/body movement.

 

[BigOlJeet]

The difference is Reem is a can and Fedor is not.

 

[StonedLemur]

Or would have lost something by being that big and strong? Probably not as quick or not as agile. So in a way he was better off being the size he was as a fighter.

He was an absolute anomaly for a HW MMA fighter.

Thoughts?

No...next question

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

No, he would be too sluggish. One of Fedor's main weapons was his speed, he has amazing hand speed, his hand speed for HW is incredible.

If he added lots of muscle he would be much slower and would lose the great stamina he had aswell.

 

[HHJ]

It is really a silly question.

"what if Fedor wasnt Fedor?"