Ido talking about not training with vegans

[Black Paladin]

It derives from Bacteria, not meat... That's where the animals get it, unless they are also taking supplements.

Overhead in a pasture:

"What are you doing today?"
"Taking bacteria supplements. Gettin' swole."

 

[Jose Beehive]

Overhead in a pasture:

"What are you doing today?"
"Taking bacteria supplements. Gettin' swole."

"around 95% of all B12 supplements manufactured are actually given to farmed animals. So people who then consume the meat from these animals are just receiving the B12 which originally came from the supplements fed to the animals."

 

[Gmork]

I said tell me 10
and you gave me one

How about name me 1 UFC mma champion that is vegan?

Where is YOUR evidence?

I can't think of ten prominent athletes that have tried a vegan diet. But that's a stupid question, I don't have to present evidence. If you're claiming a vegan diet makes people weak, you have to offer proof. Spoiler alert: there is none.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

You're a special kind of moron.


Irradiating food does not make it radioactive.
Your organic plants spend their life in ionizing UV radiation


Hahaha.
No.


You're the kind of guy to check whether your tide pods are organic before eating them.


Beside being dead wrong and stupid, you know what killed young peoples? Food poisoning.

1. First you told me irradiated food was, quote "all made up by activists websites."
   
2. Now I guess you've actually looked into it & now you believe it's happening...
   
3. & so you with your 1 day of knowledge you're now trying to get me to eat the byproducts of exposing food to nuclear waste like you do. That's sick bro.

Why don't you actually do some research before you spread information about something you don't know about & didn't even believe was happening until yesterday.

Many of the cherry coated resources out there have been paid for by the irradiation industry, but make no mistake that there are actual studies that show mutations, DNA damage, chromasomal abnormalities, vitamin loss & you're killng all your living enzymes in your food... etc... lots of things.

Here's some links I found just off of a quick google search... Formation of DNA strand breaks was observed.

I study this following guy's stuff, listen to podcasts & bought his book etc.... & there's a ton of resources out there about this. I gotta run atm, so I can find better links if this doesn't work, but this seems to be someone giving a summary of his work. This is the guy that most other scientists quote. He's the fucking man... without a doubt in the aging research. The work of leading Harvard professor of aging... David Sinclair shows us that the body becomes less capable of repairing DNA strand breaks as it ages. He goes on to explain how these breaking DNA strands are responsible for almost all age related diseases. This is what I was saying in my last post. so if irradiated food is causing more DNA strand breaks... & your body becomes less capable of repairing them as we get older... you are effectively killing your self sooner by eating something that causes DNA strand breaks.

give this "Health Risks" section a read & this is a quick summary... then you'll understand that at the very least you should not be touting about how healthy it is... lol...

The general consensus of the industry is: "we don't know what the long term health issues are, but we have a world hunger problem & we need to do this, so just eat this shit & see what happens." So they have no idea what it's going to do long term but per David Sinclair's work, we see that it accelerates age related disease.

Where you seem to be basing your argument is that it's not actually nuclear when you eat it. That is correct, but It's not that you are straight up eating nuclear waste that's the problem... but the by-products from exposing your food to it creates mutations in your food. Those mutations are un-natural & the irradiation also nixxes a lot of the healthy things in the food including vitamin content but most importantly the living enzymes. By the time its extended shelf life depletes them more & then you cook it, reducing them further you're left with a shell of it's un-altered organic version. At the very least you should be able to agree that organic food is better for you. As you continue to study, it gets uglier for irradiated food due to the mutations it creates.

They allow it because is doesn't kill you right away. It's like them allowing a certain amount of rat shit into your noodles. Hey, it's all good right... what's the problem eating a little bit of rat shit. Do you like eating rat shit? Personally I don't.

I see this new irradiation thing pretty much the same as the margerine, (transfats) thing that the FDA approved & it was all the rage, but now it's become illegal in the USA after AN ENTIRE CENTURY OF RESEARCH. Do you know that after a huge study at Harvard in 1993, that they estimated that 50k people die every year from transfats. You know what they did? They put a fucking label on it 13 years later & allowed it to continue & it wasn't fully banned until this fooking year 28 years later. 28 x 50,000= 1,400,000 people they allowed to die AFTER they had the evidence that it was killing people. Do you find that discusting? I do. All that KFC, Mcdonalds & all those places... & little debbies etc... have been pumping you full of that shit since you were born & they allowed it knowing that 50k people die every year from it. These are the people who's reports you are obviously reading regarding irradiation.

Irradiation is going through that same process & if you want to subject yourself to it, then knock yourself out player... but don't recruit people into your club with false information that there's nothing wrong with it. You act like it's perfectly healthy... lol. NOBODY is saying that irradiated food is just as safe and healthy as regular organic food. What they're selling you is that the side effects are minimal enough that they're going to allow it.

 

[TreeOfWoe]

itt: butthurt malnourished vegans trying (and failing) to struggle against nature.

 

[TheNinja]

A vegan diet doesn't mean you have to be weak and have low energy. However many people who adopt the vegan diet tend to be.....shall we say not into power lifting. They tend to be much more about cardio and yoga and stuff so of course they aren't going to be as physically strong as someone lifting.

Also I think many vegans don't eat the proper macronutrients. They think eating veggies and fruits will just make them feel great without all the animal protein in their diet. But many of them fail to get enough fats and especially proteins. A vegan diet that is good enough protein can be expensive.

 

[B0mbSquad]

nothing atrocious about killing animals, we are only here because our ancestors weren't all a bunch of vegans. I've killed dozens of chickens and I felt nothing much like they didn't feel anything when they ate insects

The discussion is more about industrial live stock and factory farming, not the killing of animals for personal consumption.

 

[Jarvan]

I can't think of ten prominent athletes that have tried a vegan diet. But that's a stupid question, I don't have to present evidence. If you're claiming a vegan diet makes people weak, you have to offer proof. Spoiler alert: there is none.

Guys, this is what happens when you go full retard and fap too much.

 

[mudrubble]

does he go into why he drank own piss an fasted for 35 days

kink and more kink. He's into S&M and it's what his mistress told him to do. To each their own I guess?

 

[Gmork]

Guys, this is what happens when you go full retard and fap too much.

This is what happens when you're an actual idiot and can't conjure a coherent counter-argument so you resort to childish ad-hominem attacks.

 

[Bluesbreaker]

Dude sounds like a snowflake.

 

[Steve Fox]

Majority of Meat Eaters only get good supplies of B12 because the animals they eat are supplemented with it anyway.

This is what people don't understand. Meat only has what plants provide, being the purest form of obtaining exactly what meat gives, eating a plant based diet.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

That is true and it was the result of a severe omega-3 fatty acid deficiency - but she was wrong when she attributed that to the vegan diet, because you can absolutely get these nutrients from vegan foods.

As a vegan, i must say it's pretty shitty that she (probably unintentionally) implied things that aren't true about that diet just because of her ignorance in terms of nutritional needs, because since she's so popular, it led to a lot of people saying that being vegan inevitably leads to deficiencies, which of course isn't true.

I was being sarcastic, citing miley cyrus as a source for life and dietary advice is moronic...though maybe makes sense if your a teenage girl.

 

[JoshR86]

Imagine feeling threatened by people who don't kill animals.

Most vegans are pro choice....

 

[JoshR86]

This is what people don't understand. Meat only has what plants provide, being the purest form of obtaining exactly what meat gives, eating a plant based diet.

Lol and plants get their nutrients from fertilizer...

Humans have a far easier time absorbing nutrients from meat than plants, that is because the cell of a liver is more recognizable to the human body, for example.

 

[Iron Nick]

itt: butthurt malnourished vegans trying (and failing) to struggle against nature.

<{cruzshake}>
You know, generalizing is something that shouldn't be done too often, but the vegans in this thread - including me - are not only way more consistent with their arguments and have actually provided evidence for their claims, but also don't throw nearly as much insults around.