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Ice T nails it

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by second sight, Jul 30, 2020 at 9:31 PM.

  1. ineverpost Black Belt

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    "Celebrities opinions are not valid, except when they have the same opinion as me, then they are valid"
     
  2. Steve-French What A Rush!!!

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    Even if a group of protesters aren't being violent the phrase "peaceful protest" is dishonest and an oxymoron.

    Peaceful - free from disturbance; tranquil.

    A bunch of people blocking traffic, and hollering fuck the police is far from a tranquil situation. I don't think anybody is denying there are some systemic issues in the Black community, but I still don't get why some people treat them like they don't have to have any kind of personal responsibility for their actions. These protests have caused over a billion dollars in damages. That is not the outcome of a peaceful gathering.
     
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    Damn, I feel bad for him, now everyone will turn on him like they did Terry Crewes for talking with reason
     
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  4. vengeful Black Belt

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    Ice T is a Cuck
     
  5. ElKarlo Steel Belt

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  6. Slick_36 Bad Man from Borger, Texas

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    You guys realize this is the dude who wrote the song Cop Killer about killing cops for police brutality, right?
     
  7. second sight We have officially entered the "Age of Deception"

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    I didn’t say I agree with him, I don’t to think that cops are anyone else has the opinion of no lives matter is wrong and messed up respectably
     
  8. The Diplomat Peace Among Worlds

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    Bodycount rocks.

    And tbf, the No Lives Matter track jams.

     
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  9. Overtures Known Agitator

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    BLM just seems like a general statement to me and not a group or organization.



    I agree that the protests have become less focused and are more sloppy than anything — at least in some instances.


    The people (right and left) who support social justice need to focus their message and separate themselves from the fuckery in the streets.
     
  10. Rygu R.I.P. Obie Platinum Member

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    The difference is Ice-T actually displayed rational thought and didn't go on some emotionally driven delusional rant about Hitler, concentration camps, ACAB and taking everyone's guns away.
     
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  11. Quipling Silver Belt

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    Is Ice T actually jailing it, or is TS just saying that because he likes what Ice T is saying?

    You decide.
     
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  12. Fugazy Aka Ferrari Houseshoes

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    Huh?
     
  13. HereticBD Plutonium Belt

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    I don't see what's disputable in anything he said.
     
  14. The Diplomat Peace Among Worlds

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    The only message that Ice T is really saying is that money matters over race, and the perception of power, regardless of how you look, will always make things a bit easier when dealing with the police... which is true. But even in the song he still acknowledges that racism is very real, and he isn't denying it at all in the interview.
     
  15. Fluffernutter Silver Belt

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    A while ago, Ice T was being interviewed. He made an interesting point.

    He was concerned that youth in his neighborhood were idolizing the local drug dealer because he drove an expensive car. His retort was "Sure, the guy drives a BMW, but he still lives in the same ghetto."
     
  16. second sight We have officially entered the "Age of Deception"

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    In the real world I would replace racism with profiling and for good reason
     
  17. Wet Blanket Everyone's Favorite Canadian

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    Ice T raps about killing cops then plays one on TV for the monies.
     
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  18. legatoblues Green Belt

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    Yeah that's kinda the point of the video in the OP....

    The song "No Lives Matter" talks about it in detail but takes great care to point out that the issue at hand is far deeper than just skin colour. A black person suffering at the hands of systemic racism should consider their position and those responsible for it and target their response appropriately, rather than wasting all that energy on irrelevant targets that serve only to increase the gap between the haves and have nots whilst continuing to empower the systemic racism these types protest in the first place.

    Pay attention, this shit was relevant long before what we know today.... Lyrics as follows:

    It's unfortunate that we even have to say 'Black Lives Matter'
    I mean, if you go through history nobody ever gave a fuck
    I mean, you can kill black people in the street
    Nobody goes to jail, nobody goes to prison

    But when I say 'Black Lives Matter' and you say 'All Lives Matter'
    That's like if I was to say 'Gay Lives Matter'
    And you say 'All Lives Matter'
    If I said, 'Women's Lives Matter' and you say 'All Lives Matter'
    You're diluting what I'm saying
    You're diluting the issue
    The issue isn't about everybody, it's about black lives, at the moment

    But the truth of the matter is, they don't really give a fuck about anybody
    If you break this shit all the way down to the low fucking dirty-ass truth

    We say that 'Black Lives Matter'
    Well truthfully they really never have
    No one ever really gave a fuck
    Just read your bullshit history books
    But honestly it ain't just black
    It's yellow, it's brown, it's red
    It's anyone who ain't got cash
    Poor whites that they call trash

    They can't, fuck with us
    Once they realise we're all on the same side
    They can't, split us up
    And let them prosper off the divide
    They can't, fuck with us
    Once they realize we're all on the same side
    They can't, split us up
    And let them prosper off the divide

    Don't fall for the bait and switch
    Racism is real, but not it
    They fuck whoever can't fight back
    But now we gotta change all that
    The people have had enough
    Right now, it's them against us
    This shit is ugly to the core
    When it comes to the poor
    No lives matter

    America's always been
    A place that judge by skin
    And racism is real as fuck
    Ain't no way to play that off
    And in the eyes of the law
    Black skin has always stood for poor
    This is basic shit
    They know who they fucking with

    They can't, fuck with us
    Once they realise we're all on the same side
    They can't, split us up
    And let them prosper off the divide
    They can't, fuck with us
    Once they realize we're all on the same side
    They can't, split us up
    And let them prosper off the divide

    Don't fall for the bait and switch
    Racism is real, but not it
    They fuck whoever can't fight back
    But now we gotta change all that
    The people have had enough
    Right now, it's them against us
    This shit is ugly to the core
    When it comes to the poor
    No lives matter

    You never see them pulling rich people out of their cars
    In their neighbourhoods because they know they got lawyers
    They know they'll sue their ass
    They can tell who to fuck with
    Unfortunately, black or brown skin has always meant poor
    They're profiling you kid
    They know you can't fight back, but we about to

    Investigators say they are reviewing body camera
    And dashcam video of Tuesday's shooting
    Police say that Keith Lamont Scott did have a gun
    In his hand when an officer shot him
    But a new picture of the scene shows something at Scott's feet
    A source tells our Charlotte affiliate it may be a gun
    But people in the neighbourhood say the
    Father of four was holding a book instead
    Officer Vinson was in plain clothes when the shooting happened
    He was not wearing a body worn camera
    But we are told that three other officers wore theirs
    The department is under increasing pressure
    To release police videos from the shooting
    But the police chief says he will not do that right now
    Because of the investigation

    Don't fall for the bait and switch
    Racism is real, but not it
    They fuck whoever can't fight back
    But now we gotta change all that
    The people have had enough
    Right now, it's them against us
    This shit is ugly to the core
    When it comes to the poor
    No lives matter

    This shit is ugly to the core
    When it comes to the poor
    No lives matter
    This shit is ugly to the core
    When it comes to the poor
    No lives matter

    Edit: and key part that isn't written in the lyrics above appears at approx. 3:38-3:42 of the official video: "Listen to me - this shit is deeper than racism".

    Is there any position on either side that would argue differently?
     
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  19. The Diplomat Peace Among Worlds

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    It depends on where you are and who you know. In some places in the country, racism is alive and well. It's just been subdued because of the shame attached to it. That has been slowly changing these past few years, though.
     
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  20. Social Distance Warrior Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    preaching to the choir. I've been saying all of this since day one.
     
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