News Ian Watkins stabbed and killed in Prison

[HereticBD]

Someone raised an interesting question about musical acts accused of these crimes.

If MJ had been found beyond any doubt to be guilty of abuse would everyone throw their copy of Thriller away? Or delete it if you wanna be petty?

Jim Jeffries has a pretty good bit on that dynamic.

Basically, "How famous do you have to be, in order to get away with...that thing". Compares Paul McCartney to Gary Glitter. It's a good bit.

That said, I think even among sex offenders, this guy is on the lowest rung of the ladder(or highest?). I don't think any celebrity could withstand that kind of depravity being brought to light. I mean, babies? It's pretty gross at how people will sort of excuse young teens getting taken advantage of by famous people, but I don't see anybody looking the other way on what this guy did, no matter how famous they are.

MJ would've been a good test, as that was involving children and not "underage" people. Also have to wonder if this guy would've been exposed to the extent he was, if he was super famous and not some guy in a semi-famous band.

 

[mozfonky]

Yeah that's usually what happens to them in prison

Not everywhere. I know a couple guys that got out. Never asked about their sentence and don't talk to either so I don't know what they dealt with.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins dies in prison attack

Ian Watkins was serving a 29-year sentence imposed in 2013 after admitting 13 child sex offences.

www.bbc.com

Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins has died after being attacked in jail, prison sources have confirmed.

The disgraced rock star from Pontypridd was serving a 29-year sentence at HMP Wakefield for child sex offences.

West Yorkshire Police said they were called to the prison on Saturday morning to an assault on a prisoner, who was pronounced dead at the smillion?

How the hell was this dude only doing 29 years. He's guilty of the worst shit imaginable

 

[FyrFytr998]

Good riddance.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The shiv feels dirty and is suffering from PTSD

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the Shiv for it's service.

 

[KnightTemplar]

How the hell was this dude only doing 29 years. He's guilty of the worst shit imaginable

British law is pathetic. Watkins' sentence was actually near the upper end of the scale; the average, "life sentence" for murder in the UK is around 17 years.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Even by child rapist standards, that guy stoop out as particularly deprived

One of those where he should have topped himself years ago. No redemption remotely possible.

The judge at his trial said pretty much the same thing: Watkins was uniquely depraved and had shown absolutely no remorse for his crimes. The pathetic shitbag even tried to appeal against the length of his sentence. The appeal was rejected, of course.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I read somewhere he was planning to rape a baby and even wanted to have a child with someone so they could abuse it together. Different levels of sick.

IIRC, she was the one who first alerted the police as soon as he started in on the baby rape fantasies. Not that it did much good; police dismissed her allegations and it was years before the vile truth about Watkins came out. He was arrested on a drug charge and his laptop was seized as evidence. It contained massive amounts of the most depraved child and bestiality porn imaginable.

I feel sorry for the coppers and technicians who had to work through that shite. Just viewing that must leave a mark on one's soul. :I

 

[KnightTemplar]

What if I told you it was another child rapist who killed him?

I believe the official police term for that is, NHI.

No Humans Involved.

 

[Boomb]

This gif is also the appropriate reaction, imo:

 

[KnightTemplar]

Not everywhere. I know a couple guys that got out. Never asked about their sentence and don't talk to either so I don't know what they dealt with.

It's actually fairly rare in British prisons. Most sex offenders, especially those who have committed crimes against children, are kept segregated with their own kind. For exactly that reason.

And Screws will do their best to protect the scum, no matter what their personal feelings because if a sex offender is killed, the Screws might be disciplined and even lose their jobs.

 

[tank666]

It's actually fairly rare in British prisons. Most sex offenders, especially those who have committed crimes against children, are kept segregated with their own kind. For exactly that reason.

And Screws will do their best to protect the scum, no matter what their personal feelings because if a sex offender is killed, the Screws might be disciplined and even lose their jobs.

Thats a shame I would give the screws a promotion if I was in charge

 

[KOQ24]

This was played on MTV for a short bit LOL

short bit ?
This had pretty heavy Rotation on MTV.Came out in the early years of the "Emo Wave" as you can see with the Haircuts.

 

[The_Renaissance]

What if I told you it was another child rapist who killed him?

Is this the case? If so, I guess those vermin are housed in the same isolated part of the prison away from the majority who want them dead.

 

[HereticBD]

How the hell was this dude only doing 29 years. He's guilty of the worst shit imaginable

The punishments for child sex crimes being an absolute joke, seems to be universal for some odd reason...

Look up the case of Graham James up here. And he had famous people accusing him. Guy got like 10 strikes, and was coaching kids even after one of his convictions.

 

[LEWIS540]

Is this the case? If so, I guess those vermin are housed in the same isolated part of the prison away from the majority who want them dead.

No idea......but yeah, the chomos tend to be isolated from others to avoid this very situation.

 

[Kingz]

Total sociopath. I’ll never forget how he didn’t grasp the seriousness of it when he it all came to light. He cracked a lighthearted joke but then said “I do apologize”

Was never a Lostprophets fan but felt bad for his bandmates who never really found the next gig and couldn’t go on using the band name with a new singer.

I’m not a proponent of hell on earth prison justice. I’d prefer they were so strict and orderly that those inside don’t have to worry about other prisoners. More like Russian prisons to be honest. I think criminals get too much free rein to not just be comfortable but to be criminals…but I’m surprised to hear he wasn’t in some sort of protected custody being famous and a prolific . Also having been attacked before. He would’ve definitely been kept away from general pop here.

But I guess some choose to stay in gen pop, like Dahmer who wouldn’t need to worry about being attacked but instead chose to stay in general population because the safer option was too boring.

 

[philcrow]

No previous knowledge of this case or who this guy was. As soon as I read the part about a baby....no fucking idea how the judge didn't just say "bailiff, please, execute this demon immediately or restrain him while I slit his throat." Sentencing guidelines need to be updated to immediate executions in clear cases of this kind of disgusting inhuman behavior.

 

[HereticBD]

But I guess some choose to stay in gen pop, like Dahmer who wouldn’t need to worry about being attacked but instead chose to stay in general population because the safer option was too boring.

I think in some cases, you simply don't get a choice. Prison could be overcrowded, for instance, and you just get put where you get put, and they won't be moving the heavens and Earth to protect you. Also, PC for these folks isn't always isolation with 24/7 surveillance. You're usually chucked in an area with other like minded folks, who may or may not be violent. He may very well have been in the wing for these folks, and still got got. There are thousands and thousands of these folks in prison. Can't protect 'em all.

Like you said, though, this guy seemed to think what he did was no big deal, so he might've been delusional enough to think he'd be fine on the inside, like he was in there for shoplifting or some shit.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Beast-on-beast attacks happen often, although it doesn't usually go this far obviously. But there aren't just beasts/nonces/pdf files on the vulnerable prisoner wings, there are also people who are unpopular for other reasons such as grassing, stealing from other prisoners, not paying debts etc. There don't seem to be a lot of details on this attack out yet, ie who did it, how and why.