I stopped watching Usyk-Fury 2 after the 8th round, Usyk was so ahead...

[Intermission]

I saw the fight exactly the way those judges did.,the problem with close rounds is that you can in theory lose all of them yet have tight fight.

I think Usyk won most rounds safely and Fury was lucky to get four of them.


First fight completely different. Neither fighter was safe. Anything could happen.

Fury had a nice right hand but he just couldn't get going. He landed 22% of his shots in total. And hes supposed to be a ring technician who goes for accuracy over power. ItS a failure.

 

[Mujeriego]

I saw the fight exactly the way those judges did.,the problem with close rounds is that you can in theory lose all of them yet have tight fight.

I think Usyk won most rounds safely and Fury was lucky to get four of them.


First fight completely different. Neither fighter was safe. Anything could happen.

Fury had a nice right hand but he just couldn't get going. He landed 22% of his shots in total. And hes supposed to be a ring technician who goes for accuracy over power. ItS a failure.

Hes a ring technician when hes facing a guy like Wilder.

 

[treelo]

i had Usyk winning the last 6 and winning a couple of the first 6 as well

the judges seem to have got this one spot on

 

[Seano]

Usyk won fairly clear but I think it was still either guys fight until the championship rounds.

 

[Mitchell Cummingham]

Fury was robbed

 

[StopDucking]

Fury was robbed

I’ll bite: which rounds did they stole from him? Be very specific.

 

[treelo]

didnt win a round after the 6th, i suspect people havent watched it and scored it if they think Fury was "robbed", upon watching it live, i thought it was a pretty close fight because i wasnt scoring it, on a rewatch he was a comfortable winner

 

[Deleted member 267581]

Usyk won fairly clear but I think it was still either guys fight until the championship rounds.

Yep a lot of people got hate for fury and only saw what they wanted to see.

Every pro boxer I’ve listened too, even the pro box tv guys who live streamed it were talking about how technical the fight was and the traps they set for each other. Usyk won rounds in the last 20-30 seconds of the fight.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

Hes a ring technician when hes facing a guy like Wilder.

lol spoken like a guy who has never boxed in his life. Fury set a lot of traps for Usyk. Usyk won but almost every round was extremely close

 

[djacobox372]

Usyk was up by 2 at the end of the 8th. Well ahead, but the fight was still in play.

 

[Intermission]

Hes a ring technician when hes facing a guy like Wilder.

pretty good against wlad

 

[Mujeriego]

lol spoken like a guy who has never boxed in his life. Fury set a lot of traps for Usyk. Usyk won but almost every round was extremely close

He's not a technician. Look at where he keeps his hands. Look at how he step backs and still gets drilled by a guy smaller than him. You never pull straight back like that on the center line.
Also How he kept getting caught by Usyk doing a simple back step counter. He couldn't even counter that counter. He had no gameplan for that. No switch. Nothing.
That's not technical at all. That's a guy who's size bails him out, but now he's fighting an actual "technician" and it's not working.

Tyson has size and deceptive speed. That's what it is. He's a big guy who moves a little better than you think he would.
And against B Level guys, it works.
That's not working on Usyk and I don't think it'll work on AJ either.
Fury is more entertaining though.
I wanted him to win because I think it's better for the sport that he wins. But he didn't.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

He's not a technician. Look at where he keeps his hands. Look at how he step backs and still gets drilled by a guy smaller than him. You never pull straight back like that on the center line.
Also How he kept getting caught by Usyk doing a simple back step counter. He couldn't even counter that counter. He had no gameplan for that. No switch. Nothing.
That's not technical at all. That's a guy who's size bails him out, but now he's fighting an actual "technician" and it's not working.

Yes every fighter has technical flaws who makes mistakes . Name a fighter that doesn’t make mistakes?

So you’re telling the way fury was landing his left hook and the traps he was setting aren’t technical? lol fuck out of here you haven’t boxed.

I can find videos of Ali pulling straight back , I can find videos of Roy jones throwing lead uppercuts.

Aj was throwing jabs against Dubois without pulling his hand back.


I think every professional boxer has commented on Tyson fury having a high fight iq. Usyk is just an amazing fighter.

Tyson has size and deceptive speed. That's what it is. He's a big guy who moves a little better than you think he would.
And against B Level guys, it works.
That's not working on Usyk and I don't think it'll work on AJ either.
Fury is more entertaining though.
I wanted him to win because I think it's better for the sport that he wins. But he didn't.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

He's not a technician. Look at where he keeps his hands. Look at how he step backs and still gets drilled by a guy smaller than him.

Evander Holyfield is 1 inch shorter than Usyk and was 215 lbs when he fought 6 5 255 Lenox Lewis.


Evander drilled Lennox a few times too. So I guess Lennox sucks because he let a guy smaller than him drill him. This take is dumb as shit lol

You never pull straight back like that on the center line.
Also How he kept getting caught by Usyk doing a simple back step counter. He couldn't even counter that counter. He had no gameplan for that. No switch. Nothing.
That's not technical at all. That's a guy who's size bails him out, but now he's fighting an actual "technician" and it's not working.

Tyson has size and deceptive speed. That's what it is. He's a big guy who moves a little better than you think he would.
And against B Level guys, it works.
That's not working on Usyk and I don't think it'll work on AJ either.
Fury is more entertaining though.
I wanted him to win because I think it's better for the sport that he wins. But he didn't.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Evander Holyfield is 1 inch shorter than Usyk and was 215 lbs when he fought 6 5 255 Lenox Lewis.

Evander drilled Lennox a few times too. So I guess Lennox sucks because he let a guy smaller than him drill him. This take is dumb as shit lol

According to the stats Holyfield is only a half inch shorter than Usyk and Lewis was 245 in the first Holyfield fight not 255. Holyfield weighed in at 215 lbs. That's a 30 lbs difference. In the rematch Holyfield only gave up 25 lbs to Lewis. It's a lot but nothing crazy.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

According to the stats Holyfield is only a half inch shorter than Usyk and Lewis was 245 in the first Holyfield fight not 255. Holyfield weighed in at 215 lbs. That's a 30 lbs difference. In the rematch Holyfield only gave up 25 lbs to Lewis. It's a lot but nothing crazy.

In the first fight so that’s 36 lbs


Tyson fury 262
Usyk 226

Fury is 6-7 not 6-9 lol

We are splitting hairs here man, it’s the same thing


So Lennox had a 30 lb advantage
And fury had a 36 lb advantsge


Fight two

Fury weighed in at 281 with his clothes jacket boots and shoes lol.

As Usyk said pre fight “ yeah he’s weighing in with all of his clothes of course he’s gonna weigh a lot”


And let’s be real fury at 270 is still got a lot of body fat. He was 255 against wilder 1 and he still had fat.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

6:44

“ you’ve had 24 rounds against fury and 24 against Joshua, which was more difficult?”

“Tyson fury was harder”

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

In the first fight so that’s 36 lbs


Tyson fury 262
Usyk 226

Fury is 6-7 not 6-9 lol

We are splitting hairs here man, it’s the same thing


So Lennox had a 30 lb advantage
And fury had a 36 lb advantsge


Fight two

Fury weighed in at 281 with his clothes jacket boots and shoes lol.

As Usyk said pre fight “ yeah he’s weighing in with all of his clothes of course he’s gonna weigh a lot”


And let’s be real fury at 270 is still got a lot of body fat. He was 255 against wilder 1 and he still had fat.

Do the math. The most weight Holyfield ever had to give up to Lewis in either fight was exactly 30 lbs (245 - 215 = 30). Fury wasn't 281 but he was still over 275 lbs in there. Meaning Usyk had to give up 50+ lbs regardless of Fury's body composition. Mass is mass. Fury uses it to lean on smaller fighters and push them around. If they have no answer for it then it'll drain them. After only a few rounds of him making them carry his weight they'll be spent.

PS. Usyk gave up 23 lbs of muscle to Joshua (244.5 - 221.5) in the rematch. That's only 7 pounds less than Holyfield gave up to Lewis in the first fight. Just 2 lbs less than Holyfield gave up to Lewis in the rematch.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

Do the math. The most weight Holyfield ever had to give up to Lewis in either fight was exactly 30 lbs (245 - 215 = 30). Fury wasn't 281 but he was still over 275 lbs in there. Meaning Usyk had to give up 50+ lbs regardless of Fury's body composition. Mass is mass. Fury uses it to lean on smaller fighters and push them around. If they have no answer for it then it'll drain them. After only a few rounds of him making them carry his weight they'll be spent.

PS. Usyk gave up 23 lbs of muscle to Joshua (244.5 - 221.5) in the rematch. That's only 7 pounds less than Holyfield gave up to Lewis in the first fight. Just 2 lbs less than Holyfield gave up to Lewis in the rematch.

You conveniently ignored the first fight, Tyson was 262 and Usyk was 226.

The math says 36 lbs.

The math says in Lennox vs Evander that Lennox weighed in at 246 lbs and Evander weighed in at 215 lbs. Doing the math again says that is 31 lbs.

So we are talking 5 lbs? lol answer that bro. You are trying to say there is a big difference between what Evander did vs Lennox and what Usyk did against fury but it’s 5 lbs.


Not to mention Lennox reach was 84 inches and Tyson’s is 85

Usyks reach is 78 inches and Evanders is 77.5


What is the difference here? The first fight Tyson weighed in without all the shit who on the second fight. You’re ignoring the first fight completely to try to make your point


Lennox wasn’t getting shit on for fighting a “smaller man” who was a “cruiserweight”

He went to a split draw with a smaller man yes controversially but he was the bigger man

And he was 6-5 246-255 , a giant heavyweight of the day.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

You conveniently ignored the first fight, Tyson was 262 and Usyk was 226.

The math says 36 lbs.

The math says in Lennox vs Evander that Lennox weighed in at 246 lbs and Evander weighed in at 215 lbs. Doing the math again says that is 31 lbs.

So we are talking 5 lbs? lol answer that bro. You are trying to say there is a big difference between what Evander did vs Lennox and what Usyk did against fury but it’s 5 lbs.


Not to mention Lennox reach was 84 inches and Tyson’s is 85

Usyks reach is 78 inches and Evanders is 77.5


What is the difference here? The first fight Tyson weighed in without all the shit who on the second fight. You’re ignoring the first fight completely to try to make your point


Lennox wasn’t getting shit on for fighting a “smaller man” who was a “cruiserweight”

He went to a split draw with a smaller man yes controversially but he was the bigger man

And he was 6-5 246-255 , a giant heavyweight of the day.

First of all your math sucks. Usyk was 223½ in the first Fury fight and Fury was 262. That's a difference of 38½ lbs. So, almost 40 lbs. In the rematch Usyk gave up 50+ lbs. You think that Lewis would be a giant heavyweight today? The average top heavyweight now is 6'5 and 250 lbs. Lewis would in fact be of average size today. Here's a 2015 photo of them together. Fury is still clearly the bigger man despite Lewis being closer to the camera.