I stopped watching Usyk-Fury 2 after the 8th round, Usyk was so ahead...

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First of all your math sucks. Usyk was 223½ in the first Fury fight and Fury was 262. That's a difference of 38½ lbs. So, almost 40 lbs. In the rematch Usyk gave up 50+ lbs. You think that Lewis would be a giant heavyweight today? The average top heavyweight now is 6'5 and 250 lbs. Lewis would in fact be of average size today. Here's a 2015 photo of them together. Fury is still clearly the bigger man despite Lewis being closer to the camera.

lol so did you just take the L?

So 31 lbs is nothing but 38 lbs is something? Mind you that’s 7 lbs of fat not muscle.


Lennox was 246 with abs and Evander was 215 with abs. He had 31 lbs of pure muscle on him. Tyson was 262 with love handles lol


Last time: So 31 lbs is nothing but 38 lbs is something? so 7 lbs makes all the difference?
Answer the question and stop ducking.

And no Tyson fury weighed in with a jacket, boots, a shirt underneath lol so no he was not 281

 

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lol so did you just take the L?

So 31 lbs is nothing but 38 lbs is something? Mind you that’s 7 lbs of fat not muscle.

Lennox was 246 with abs and Evander was 215 with abs. He had 31 lbs of pure muscle on him. Tyson was 262 with love handles lol

Last time: So 31 lbs is nothing but 38 lbs is something? so 7 lbs makes all the difference?
Answer the question and stop ducking.

And no Tyson fury weighed in with a jacket, boots, a shirt underneath lol so no he was not 281

You can't even follow a conversation much less effectively debate. I never said that Fury was 281 lbs. Take a few pounds off and he's still 275+. Unless you think that he had 6 lbs of clothing on? Hint, he didn't. Mass is mass. It's never pure fat or muscle anyway but rather a mixture of the two. Usyk clearly has around 15 lbs of fat on him. Naturally he's only around 210. He bulked up a bit for heavyweight. Usyk didn't need to be jacked like Holyfield. This is boxing not a bodybuilding competition you idget.

 

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You can't even follow a conversation much less effectively debate. I never said that Fury was 281 lbs. Take a few pounds off and he's still 275+. Unless you think that he had 6 lbs of clothing on? Hint, he didn't. Mass is mass. It's never pure fat or muscle anyway but rather a mixture of the two. Usyk clearly has around 15 lbs of fat on him. Naturally he's only around 210. He bulked up a bit for heavyweight. Usyk didn't need to be jacked like Holyfield. This is boxing not a bodybuilding competition you idget.

So again you ducked the question this now the 3rd time again.


31 lbs of weight between Lennox and Evander is no big deal but 38 lbs between fury and Usyk in the first fight is a massive deal? 7 lbs is a make or break?

3rd and final time, you ducking this question more than Canelo is ducking benevidez

 

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So again you ducked the question this now the 3rd time again.


31 lbs of weight between Lennox and Evander is no big deal but 38 lbs between fury and Usyk in the first fight is a massive deal?

3rd and final time, you ducking this question more than Canelo is ducking benevidez

First of all it's 30 lbs not 31 that Holyfield gave up to Lewis. That's the most he ever had to give up. Secondly, the difference between that 30 lbs and 38 lbs isn't that significant. What's the most weight Usyk gave up to Fury? Over 50 lbs. You're trying to take the least amount of weight Usyk had as a disadvantage against Fury while giving Holyfield the maximum that he gave up to Lewis. That's comical.

BTW, you know who else has a lot of fat on them? Sumo wrestlers. They're still strong as hell. Strongmen, the strongest people in the world, also have much more fat on them than bodybuilders and yet they can easily outlift those guys. In boxing you transfer your weight when you punch. You commit to throwing a shot. The whole process couldn't care less about whether that mass is mostly fat or muscle.

 

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First of all it's 30 lbs not 31 that Holyfield gave up to Lewis.

Wrong. Lennox weighed in 246 and holy field weighed in at 215.

I can bitch slap you again.

Boxing: Lewis scales the heights

LENNOX LEWIS weighed in yesterday at 246lb, some 31lb more than Evander Holyfield for their heavyweight unification fight at Madison Square Garden tomorrow.

www.independent.co.uk

That's the most he ever had to give up. Secondly, the difference between that 30 lbs and 38 lbs isn't that significant.

There it is. Because that’s the weight he weighed in in the first fight without a bunch of clothes on which is relevant.


We are comparing the first two fights against each other. So if it’s not significant why aren’t we shitting on Lennox for fighting a cruiserweight and going to a split draw with him?

lol your logic is a joke and your hater ways are on full display

What's the most weight Usyk gave up to Fury? Over 50 lbs. You're trying to take the least amount of weight Usyk had as a disadvantage against Fury while giving Holyfield the maximum that he gave up to Lewis. That's comical.

BTW, you know who else has a lot of fat on them? Sumo wrestlers. They're still strong as hell. Strongmen, the strongest people in the world, also have much more fat on them than bodybuilders and yet they can easily outlift those guys. In boxing you transfer your weight when you punch. You commit to throwing a shot. The whole process couldn't care less about whether that mass is mostly fat or muscle.

 

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Wrong. Lennox weighed in 246 and holy field weighed in at 215.

I can bitch slap you again.

Boxing: Lewis scales the heights

LENNOX LEWIS weighed in yesterday at 246lb, some 31lb more than Evander Holyfield for their heavyweight unification fight at Madison Square Garden tomorrow.

www.independent.co.uk

There it is. Because that’s the weight he weighed in in the first fight without a bunch of clothes on which is relevant.

We are comparing the first two fights against each other. So if it’s not significant why aren’t we shitting on Lennox for fighting a cruiserweight and going to a split draw with him?

lol your logic is a joke and your hater ways are on full display

You must be drunk. Too much alcoholic eggnog? Let's ask BoxRec what Lennox weighed. He was 245 lbs in the first Holyfield fight. Just as I said. Bitch slapped? LOL

 

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You must be drunk. Too much alcoholic eggnog? Let's ask BoxRec what Lennox weighed. He was 245 lbs in the first Holyfield fight. Just as I said. Bitch slapped? LOL

Fast forward to 20:00 you stupid fuck. 246 from the actual ppv lol

 

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Fast forward to 20:00 you stupid fuck. 246 from the actual ppv lol

Ever think that maybe the PPV got it wrong? BoxRec gets their information straight from the respective boxing commission you dope.

 

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Ever think that maybe the PPV got it wrong? BoxRec gets their information straight from the respective boxing commission you dope.

Uh you do realize boxer rec isn’t 100% accurate right?

 

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Uh you do realize boxer rec isn’t 100% accurate right?

The results aren't always 100% accurate but they make that pretty clear. The official weights are there and they're reported by the respective boxing commission. You're using a PPV broadcast as if its tale of the tape infographic is any more accurate. The weight they're reporting was either incorrect or Lewis had gained another pound after he initially weighed in. They may've re-weighed him the morning of the fight.

 

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Again 31 lbs was no big deal for Lennox Lewis. But 38 lbs for Tyson fury is too much lol.

Your hypocrisy is hilarious. You were saying that Usyk was a cruiserweight for the first fight

 

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Again 31 lbs was no big deal for Lennox Lewis. But 38 lbs for Tyson fury is too much lol.

Your hypocrisy is hilarious. You were saying that Usyk was a cruiserweight for the first fight

Uh, Usyk is a natural cruiserweight and so was Holyfield. Remember this thread you made? I'll quote the OP.

Wilder is usually outweighed on average of 30-45 lbs per fight. Should he automatically be considered a p4p difhrer

 

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The results aren't always 100% accurate but they make that pretty clear. The official weights are there and they're reported by the respective boxing commission. You're using a PPV broadcast as if its tale of the tape infographic is any more accurate. The weight they're reporting was either incorrect or Lewis had gained another pound after he initially weighed in. They may've re-weighed him the morning of the fight.

Right so multiple articles reporting he weighed in at 246 are all wrong and tale of the tape is wrong But box rec is correct lol.

Keep in mind Lewis weighed in with his boxers. Tyson weighed in with his shoes and pants on lol.

Point is

6-7 fury
6-5 Lennox

6-2 evander
6-3 Usyk

246-Lewis in underwear
262-Tyson in pants and shoes

215-evander
223-Usyk

Lewis-84 inch reach
Fury-85 inch reach

Evander 77 inch
Usyk 78 inch

That’s the stat difference from the first match ups.

You gave Tyson shit about fighting. Cruiserweight for the first fight.

I don’t need you to acknowledge your absolute hypocrisy

You’ve already showed it.

You took the L again.

 

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Uh, Usyk is a natural cruiserweight and so was Holyfield. Remember this thread you made? I'll quote the OP.

L taken! lol you got sonned. I never shit on Tyson for fighting Usyk who is a cruiserweight and I’ve acknowledged Usyk is an atg. You shit on Tyson for fighting a cruiserweight not me. I’m just showing your hypocrisy as you try to wiggle out of acknowledging Lennox did the same exact thing and doesn’t get hate

Wilder is 209 fighting giants, my point with that is he should get more credit because he is clearly not a heavyweight lol. You’re just proving my points over and over again.

 

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Right so multiple articles reporting he weighed in at 246 are all wrong and tale of the tape is wrong But box rec is correct lol.

Keep in mind Lewis weighed in with his boxers. Tyson weighed in with his shoes and pants on lol.

Point is

6-7 fury
6-5 Lennox

6-2 evander
6-3 Usyk

246-Lewis in underwear
262-Tyson in pants and shoes

215-evander
223-Usyk

Lewis-84 inch reach
Fury-85 inch reach

Evander 77 inch
Usyk 78 inch

That’s the stat difference from the first match ups.

You gave Tyson shit about fighting. Cruiserweight for the first fight.

I don’t need you to acknowledge your absolute hypocrisy

You’ve already showed it.

You took the L again.

You're right, dude. Wilder is totally a P4Per! I invite anyone on this board to read through that thread of yours. You were made to look absolutely ridiculous. Speaking of hypocrisy it also reveals yours. You were giving Wilder props for all of the weight that he gave up to Fury but not Usyk. Weird.

 

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You're right, dude. Wilder is totally a P4Per! I invite anyone on this board to read through that thread of yours. You were made to look absolutely ridiculous. Speaking of hypocrisy it also reveals yours.

You were giving Wilder props for all of the weight that he gave up to Fury but not Usyk. Weird.

Uh how dumb are you? I didn’t shit on usyks accomplishment. I was pointing out your hypocrisy. Which I successfully did.

Usyk deserves props, but you have constantly gone the other direction and shitted on Tyson for fighting a cruiserweight, when like I said Lennox did the same thing which you don’t want to acknowledge but I forced you too

 

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Uh how dumb are you? I didn’t shit on usyks accomplishment. I was pointing out your hypocrisy. Which I successfully did.

Usyk deserves props, but you have constantly gone the other direction and shitted on Tyson for fighting a cruiserweight, when like I said Lennox did the same thing which you don’t want to acknowledge but I forced you too

I admit that Lewis fought a natural cruiserweight in Holyfield. See how hard that was? Oh, and you do realize that Tyson Fury was laughing at Usyk calling him a "middleweight" right? That's because Usyk used to fight at middleweight in the amateurs before he jumped up to heavyweight. But you're pissed that I'm calling Usyk a natural cruiserweight? Haha

 

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Time to log off now buddy @iwannabeadored. No Christmas gifts for you.

“You’ve let a little steroid man come up from middleweight and sit above you and take all your belts.”

Tyson Fury baselessly accused one of the greatest rivals to his boxing crown of taking steroids

 

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I admit that Lewis fought a natural cruiserweight in Holyfield. See how hard that was? Oh, and you do realize that Tyson Fury was laughing at Usyk calling him a "middleweight" right? That's because Usyk used to fight at middleweight in the amateurs before he jumped up to heavyweight. But you're pissed that I'm calling Usyk a natural cruiserweight? Haha

No you’re deflecting again, you shit on Tyson for fighting a “cruiserweight” and losing. lol

 

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No you’re deflecting again, you shit on Tyson for fighting a “cruiserweight” and losing. lol

Better? Not only can I play your game, I can win as usual.

“I’ll obliterate him. He’s a cruiserweight. No, he’s a pumped-up middleweight! He was a middleweight in the amateurs, 75kg; I was a super-heavyweight at 11 years old.”

‘I’ll obliterate him’: Tyson Fury not impressed with ‘pumped-up middleweight’ Usyk