I started Judo: Osoto Gari

[Fumbles]

A little backstory. Have been doing bjj nogi for almost a year and just recently started training in the gi. Loving the grips. Half our class are wrestlers though so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage in the stand up but I'm slowly learning my doubles and whatnot though my guard's pretty kickass as a result. Because we live in a small town, we only have bjj 3 times a week M,W,F.


Well recently a 4th degree Judo Black Belt started training there. His ground game wasn't anything to write home about. But for an unforseen reason our instructor wasn't able to make the Friday class so our gym owner turned it into a Judo Day. Because it was everyone's first day of Judo and we had some new people in the class as well, we started with the basics. I was acutally the only regular so consequently was also the only one with a Gi. After warm ups and stretching we just did some walking drills. Then we worked on walking with a partner and eventually foot sweeps. Not actually sweeping but tapping our partner's foot when they're off balance. Worked on sweeping it past the other leg and sweeping it into the other leg. Afterwards, he showed us how to grab a single if we screw up a foot sweep. He was patient, gave great detail, and gave lots of positive reinforcement. Almost to the point of sounding patronizing lol but I guess that's just his teaching style.


Because it was originally suppose to be a BJJ class we still had open mat in the last half hour of class. I take advantage of the oppertunity to get a little one on one time with him. For 20 minutes we worked on Osoto Gari. At first I didn't get it but he gave very helpful tips and different perspectives and made it click for me. Overall a really great instructor.


I also got the breath knocked the **** out of me too like never before. I've decided to work on nothing but Osoto Gari now until I get good at it. It raced through my mind during the drive home like just like if it was a BJJ day. And we're now having Judo classes before BJJ permanently which I'll be attending as often as work permits.


Sorry to ramble. In short, I <3 Judo now. Any rules of thumb or solo drills would be appreciated.

 

[Kid Sampson]

Master Kimura approves of this thread, but seriously thats awesome that you got into Judo.

Osoto-gari, while simple in principle, it is difficult to pull off when actually fighting, but that should not deter you from trying to master it.

 

[notafighter86]

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I think Osoto gari is one of the best throws for teaching the principles of judo.

While I do loads of them for uchi komi, never got one sparring. And its one of my favorite throws to counter with a swift Osoto guruma.

 

[futang17]

practice your osoto gari against a tree...when you can throw the tree then you're ready

 

[Fumbles]

practice your osoto gari against a tree...when you can throw the tree then you're ready

I've been throwing bushes for 17 hours and can't get that damn tree to move. What's the secret?

 

[Adriano**]

Osoto Gari is a great throw the very first I learned and to this day the throw I use when I am working on the doors and the throw I would use for self defense and theres so many ways to f*ck someone up really badly.

The Camarillo brothers even mention it as one of the most deadlest throws in existance and not to use it on the street its mentioned in there book guerilla jiu jitsu, Helio Gracie taught Osoto Gari for self defense also by grabbing the adams apple and going in for the Osoto Gari.

It's great for GI and NOGI for NOGI I get my arm on the hip and a whizzer on the other arm for GI I usually take it from back lapel grip and elbow grip.

 

[Fumbles]

Osoto Gari is a great throw the very first I learned and to this day the throw I use when I am working on the doors and the throw I would use for self defense and theres so many ways to f*ck someone up really badly.

The Camarillo brothers even mention it as one of the most deadlest throws in existance and not to use it on the street its mentioned in there book guerilla jiu jitsu, Helio Gracie taught Osoto Gari for self defense also by grabbing the adams apple and going in for the Osoto Gari.

It's great for GI and NOGI for NOGI I get my arm on the hip and a whizzer on the other arm for GI I usually take it from back lapel grip and elbow grip.

For some reason I'm having a hard time picturing it in nogi. And I'm really curious about the nogi variation.

 

[Rod1]

osoto gari no-gi is basically a kneetap with a leg reap, same entry.

 

[Adriano**]

 

[barmyone45**]

I heard someone say in another thread that Jon Jones did an Osoto Gari on Matt Hammil, I didn't see that one and I tried looking it up on all the usual illicit sites but I couldn't find a working version.

Anyone got a gif?

 

[Q mystic]

A little backstory. Have been doing bjj nogi for almost a year and just recently started training in the gi. Loving the grips. Half our class are wrestlers though so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage in the stand up but I'm slowly learning my doubles and whatnot though my guard's pretty kickass as a result. Because we live in a small town, we only have bjj 3 times a week M,W,F.


Well recently a 4th degree Judo Black Belt started training there. His ground game wasn't anything to write home about. But for an unforseen reason our instructor wasn't able to make the Friday class so our gym owner turned it into a Judo Day. Because it was everyone's first day of Judo and we had some new people in the class as well, we started with the basics. I was acutally the only regular so consequently was also the only one with a Gi. After warm ups and stretching we just did some walking drills. Then we worked on walking with a partner and eventually foot sweeps. Not actually sweeping but tapping our partner's foot when they're off balance. Worked on sweeping it past the other leg and sweeping it into the other leg. Afterwards, he showed us how to grab a single if we screw up a foot sweep. He was patient, gave great detail, and gave lots of positive reinforcement. Almost to the point of sounding patronizing lol but I guess that's just his teaching style.


Because it was originally suppose to be a BJJ class we still had open mat in the last half hour of class. I take advantage of the oppertunity to get a little one on one time with him. For 20 minutes we worked on Osoto Gari. At first I didn't get it but he gave very helpful tips and different perspectives and made it click for me. Overall a really great instructor.


I also got the breath knocked the **** out of me too like never before. I've decided to work on nothing but Osoto Gari now until I get good at it. It raced through my mind during the drive home like just like if it was a BJJ day. And we're now having Judo classes before BJJ permanently which I'll be attending as often as work permits.


Sorry to ramble. In short, I <3 Judo now. Any rules of thumb or solo drills would be appreciated.

I think o-soto is a very hard tech to learn to be good at. Like Uchi-mata.

Dont get me wrong, learn it but dont expect to be good at it quick. It is a good tech for prep just to learn the dynamics. Prolly one of the best. Like o-goshi. Hip throw. Its a base tech. Just learn it decent and move on to what else the judoka teaches.

 

[Higus]

I heard someone say in another thread that Jon Jones did an Osoto Gari on Matt Hammil, I didn't see that one and I tried looking it up on all the usual illicit sites but I couldn't find a working version.

Anyone got a gif?

Strange setup, but you can pull off some weird looking moves with a frame like that, I guess.

 

[ijustwannasurf]

Strange setup, but you can pull off some weird looking moves with a frame like that, I guess.

Choke-soto gari. Favorite of bouncers everywhere :icon_chee

 

[notafighter86]

I think o-soto is a very hard tech to learn to be good at. Like Uchi-mata.

Dont get me wrong, learn it but dont expect to be good at it quick. It is a good tech for prep just to learn the dynamics. Prolly one of the best. Like o-goshi. Hip throw. Its a base tech. Just learn it decent and move on to what else the judoka teaches.

The problem with a throw like o-goshi is beginners often try to throw the guy over thier hip using upper body strength rather than throwing them using the hip. As a turing throw i'd rather show beginners something like morote seoi nage.

Personally i don't see any problem with trying to develop a small repertoire of throws, but if he's just started then I think your right in that he shouldn't get too focused on one throw. Find out whats on the menu before you choose your dish.

 

[Thrawn33]

Love me some Osoto. I'd say 75% of my throws for Ippon was with that one, or some kind of variation.

 

[Q mystic]

The problem with a throw like o-goshi is beginners often try to throw the guy over thier hip using upper body strength rather than throwing them using the hip. As a turing throw i'd rather show beginners something like morote seoi nage.

He did a yr of nogi tho. Nogi fellas cant do gi worth beans. They're worse than norm. Let him do the dynamics of ogoshi and osoto 1st to see the extra control. Besides, seoinage while learned early doesnt take into effect until fella typically goes thru his goshi/guruma stages anyway. You see bjjers demoing seoinage? Or wrestlers for that matter? Its actually pretty complex.lol.

 

[Thrawn33]

He did a yr of nogi tho. Nogi fellas cant do gi worth beans. They're worse than norm. Let him do the dynamics of ogoshi and osoto 1st to see the extra control. Besides, seoinage while learned early doesnt take into effect until fella typically goes thru his goshi/guruma stages anyway. You see bjjers demoing seoinage? Or wrestlers for that matter? Its actually pretty complex.lol.

I agree. Seoi seems to be one of them techniques you learn early, drill every practice but take years to be able to be able to hit it in comp on a consistant basis.

Very underrated thow, skill-wise.

 

[Q mystic]

I agree. Seoi seems to be one of them techniques you learn early, drill every practice but take years to be able to be able to hit it in comp on a consistant basis.

Very underrated thow, skill-wise.

Yup, just very personal. As well as the only one where if feels you could bury an elephant with.lol

 

[Mr. Sandman]

What I found hard with osoto was the distance you had to cover to get in position for it. I started hitting uchi-mata early because you're there so quick..

 

[Spoonman7]

o soto is a simple but super effective throw, it is one of my go to throws, yesterday that is the only throw that my coach and I worked on, for an hour.