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I rewatched old Jones fights (prediction)

Nobody can accurately predict this fight, nobody. Jones hasn't fought in years and none of us have any idea what he is going to look like after all that time in a new weight class. Jon is a living fight game legend. He is, plain and simple. Forget his personal strife. It's like Fedor in his dotage, I would always sit there watching and think maybe there is some magic but the magic was gone. Been a long time for Jon but he isn't that old chronologically. I'm pumped for the fight and hope its a great one. I won't be surprised in anyway by what the outcome is. I can't find fault with people staunchly believing Jones is going to mop the floor with Gane, nor can I find fault with those saying Gane is Jon's old age nightmare.
 
Ok, genius. Now that you’ve been talking about “evidence” for quite a while, let’s play your game. What evidence you have to CLAIM that 205 Jon is STRONGER than Francis. I will wait.

Here you go-



Now you post a video of Francis lifting anywhere near that weight let alone more weight.
 
Here you go-



Now you post a video of Francis lifting anywhere near that weight let alone more weight.

lol Your proof is so stupid, biased and misleading. What if Ngannou hasn’t done a single deadlift in his life? Jon wins by “no show” ? You would have to provide footage of both doing the same thing or competing in a strongman contest to make a claim like you did. I am saying lets use the Gane fight to kinda gauge who’s stronger and you come with a load of crap. But your stupid deadlift video is the truth right? Because there is no footage of Ngannou deadlifting and we don’t even know if he deadlifts at all.
 
lol Your proof is so stupid, biased and misleading. What if Ngannou hasn’t done a single deadlift in his life? Jon wins by default? You would have to provide footage of both doing the same thing or competing in a strongman contest to make a claim like you did. I am telling you to use the Gane fight to kinda gauge who’s stronger and you come with a load of crap. But your stupid deadlift video is the truth right? Because there is no footage of Ngannou deadlifting and we don’t even know if he deadlifts at all.

If he hasn't deadlifted in his life then of course he isn't stronger, do you have CTE lmao? How is dropping Gane once and then laying on top of him while hyperventilating a better example than Jones rag dolling Daniel Cormier, an Olympian Wrestler for 25 minutes? Or pinning Dan Henderson? Any fighter from 185lbs and up could pick up Cyril Gane and drop him, he only weighs 250lbs.
There is no way you don't realise how idiotic you're being and it's just your ego that's keeping you here replying with unfounded garbage at this point.

But if you ever find any actual evidence of Ngannou or Gane demonstrating strength through a standard exercise (the way every athletic sport measure strength, power and endurance etc, this isn't new) I'd love to see it.
 
I'm not convinced Gane will be able to stop the takedowns and get back up to his feet in a 5 round fight.

JJ by late sub. Come back and bully me if I'm wrong.
I don't like him personally, but his fight IQ is off the charts. Not if but WHEN he doesn't get the better exchanges, we will see a wrestling heavy game plan which he's good at. You're not far off the mark.
 
Okay, I just rewatched Jones VS Shogun, Alex, Reyes, and Evans. (I did watch the fights live as they happened as well)

When Jones has a clear physical advantage he absolutely looks like the greatest fighter of all time (Shogun, Evans). He is best when he can sit back and throw well-thought-out, high-powered shots. He does lack any true elite boxing so it's best when he can throw unusual strikes that most fighters don't see in training. He has a great element of surprise in that area.

But when matched up with fighters who don't give up insane reach, who move light on their feet and remain active in their boxing, he STILL looks elite but becomes vulnerable (Alex and Reyes). It must be said there is a realistic blueprint to beat him, unlike some people who would have you believe he is unbeatable and has never been in any real danger.

So this is where Gane comes in. He is a nightmare match up for Jon. He is tall, extremely light on his feet, has power, youth and he is heavily motivated. But most importantly he has an 81-inch reach with high level kick boxing. He is clearly the best striker Jones has ever faced. He is clearly the most dangerous fighter Jon had ever faced.

Also when speaking on Gane too much has been made of Ganes grappling (or lack of) after the Ngannou fight. I honestly believe Gane had no idea that Ngannou was going to grapple him that night. I also think Ngannou is ALOT stronger than Jon and he may be the most naturally strong man that has ever entered the Octagon. Ngannou is the friend you ask to help move your fridge and he picks it over his head by himself with ease....The point being Gane grappling will be fine.

Prediction: This IS a toss-up fight. Jones will get busted up quickly and early in this one and his whole survival depends on winning the clench and getting AND maintaining the takedown...

...Here is the problem, Gane knows this and will be VERY hard to take down. He will be VERY prepared after what happened with Ngannou.

If you bet then Gane is the smart money being the underdog. Not to mention that Jon has been out 3 years and we are bound to see the best version of Gane.

Jones will do enough to make a few rounds close by getting some takedowns but it won't be enough as Gane will land big shots and have Jones wobbling and reeling for survival.

Gane by split Dec. I'm putting $500 on Gane.

My Join date checks out. I know what I'm talking about.

Great breakdown and courageous bet. Good luck to you.
 
Jones by return to form Hellbows stoppage rd3.
 
If he hasn't deadlifted in his life then of course he isn't stronger, do you have CTE lmao? How is dropping Gane once and then laying on top of him while hyperventilating a better example than Jones rag dolling Daniel Cormier, an Olympian Wrestler for 25 minutes? Or pinning Dan Henderson? Any fighter from 185lbs and up could pick up Cyril Gane and drop him, he only weighs 250lbs.
There is no way you don't realise how idiotic you're being and it's just your ego that's keeping you here replying with unfounded garbage at this point.

But if you ever find any actual evidence of Ngannou or Gane demonstrating strength through a standard exercise (the way every athletic sport measure strength, power and endurance etc, this isn't new) I'd love to see it.
I’m done for now. You claimed that A fighter is stronger than B fighter with 0 proof other than one of them doing deadlifts. I don’t think Jones is stronger, if he was he would be tossing 205ers all over the cage but he hasn’t in a long time. I am telling you to use the Gane fight as reference because if 205 Jon was stronger than Ngannou then 255 lbs Jon must be even stronger, but you refuse. And you are still bringing other dudes like Thor and Dc to this debate…. lol. I will watch the fight on Saturday night and come to get your ass or apologize and admit that you are the man.
 
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jones will get hit, that is unavoidable. but he won't go down. ganes opponents dont go down until the 3rd. jones is going to take his ass down and elbow the shit out of him. turn him into a french cwossant dough consistency. fuck gane.

Yeah I think Gane is amazing at striking but doesn't have knockout power. That'll give jones around 3 rounds to try to take him down. if he can, he wins; if not, Gane by decision (or robbed).
 
Yeah I think Gane is amazing at striking but doesn't have knockout power. That'll give jones around 3 rounds to try to take him down. if he can, he wins; if not, Gane by decision (or robbed).
hint: he will. he will take him down easily.
 
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