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[This is long so I appreciate if you read through]
TLDR: Supervisor job in my long-time, current company but with "conditions" and a dick-swinging Karen. Or a non-supervisory job in a new organization in an "urban" town.
I'm trying to weigh out pros and cons between 2 jobs. (Mods if I may please request a poll, please?)
I've been with the organization since 2017. A new initiative began this year. Due to my experience, I was strongly encouraged to apply. I joined. They hired a new director and I was the only person "in house". The new director and I were close. He was a well dressed African American gentleman, very skilled speaker, and likeable. He was seldom present though. We hired a supervisor (who'd be my supervisor).
Each supervisor would have 5 employees under them. Being a veteran I was actually teaching a lot to my "superiors" who just joined.
Since he was seldom present the director parted ways with the org. He gave me a heart to heart about how valuable I was and how he somewhat was put on alert to keep an eye on me specifically!
My old supervisor (we'll call her Karen). She js short, loud, somewhat annoying, intelligent, and competent (crosses T's and dots I's).
She is the type who gets all the way off on the job. When I first started she used to always introduce herself to everyone as "the boss". Hi, I'm "his boss!" Instead of just saying her name... it was off-putting. She even used to call her staff her people or "one of mine," which she eventually stopped after people brought to her attention how culturally gauche it was. She eventually got a promotion and so much more power which can only make her ego worse!
She's unmarried, no kids (freezing her eggs soon), makes good money, bought her own house, probably doesn't even get laid. One of those women who puts everything into her career. Truth be told she probably gets off on berating me as a male (being black may not help). She likes to overwhelm herself with stuff and gets off on telling folks she's too busy and doesn't have time to sit with them.
Like anyone else, she isn't all bad. She can be friendly (albeit fake sometimes) shows genuine care from time to time, and like I said, is intelligent... the type of student who was probably a hall monitor or would remind the teacher to collect the homework.
Anyway, even in the short time, staff in this new initiative have come and gone abruptyl. I've been active in bringing staff in. We now have a small crew of recent college grads who look like a college diversity poster. They are a cute little clique. The new supervisor - Afrcian American woman and I get along very well.
Me. As some of yall already know. I have a masters, I'm a very good presenter, humorous, I am friendly/charismafic and one of those dudes who lightens up the office atmosphere. Although I tend to slip sometimes keeping track with too much crap on the calendar. I give a lot in terms of volunteering and creating stuff the company benefits from. Overall I'm very good at what I do.
After training so many new people and these new kids coming in I began to feel underutilized. My coworkers, recognizing my tenure and how good I am, kept asking why I don't go for the director job. I told them "Please, they didn't even offer me supervisor".
After consideration I went for the Sup role. I also got a job offer doing a similar job as my current one. However, that job paid as much as the supervisor one here.
I spoke to a board member that likes me. He counseld me and advised me to talk to our CEO. The CEO of our agency is also a big time politician. She is cool with me too. After some talking, she eventually calls our VP and tells them to give me a 3 month trial period.
The director, Karen, and VP woman sit me in the office. They tell me I do not have supervisory experience and they can give me a trial period but it would be a risk on both of our parts as the grant requires 3 years of supervising. They can move me down to my current position if I "don't make it". I have some official supervision experience (like a year) and in my role acted as the site supervisor during our evening programs. Which I didn't know why they wouldn't count. I also mentor all of the new staff very thoroughly.
I told the other job yes, but would cancel if I stayed here. The other job I wouldn't have to worry about supervising people but this job I can get the supervision experience (and also extra stress). Another benefit is that this one offers is a shitload of vacation time!!! It's absurd. But I can think of the other job as more or less same amount of work for better salary. The other job is also in the city (which I hate) I gotta look for parking, and it's a bit "hood".
Anyway. I've been thinking about it, talking to family/coworkers. Everyone is pretty split. With some saying: fuck them, take the new job! Or the fact that I went over their heads, they'll never let me pass the 90 days and I'll be demoted back to my current position.
Others saying: Nah, take the supervisor job here and ride it through, I can do it.
If I say no to this I'll be slapping the CEO (who advocated for me) in the face. If I turn down the new agency on short notice I'll also feel like a dick, but I gotta do what's best for me. A bird in the hand or 2 in the bush?
I appreciate the advice in advance.
Inb4: TLDR
TLDR: Supervisor job in my long-time, current company but with "conditions" and a dick-swinging Karen. Or a non-supervisory job in a new organization in an "urban" town.
I'm trying to weigh out pros and cons between 2 jobs. (Mods if I may please request a poll, please?)
I've been with the organization since 2017. A new initiative began this year. Due to my experience, I was strongly encouraged to apply. I joined. They hired a new director and I was the only person "in house". The new director and I were close. He was a well dressed African American gentleman, very skilled speaker, and likeable. He was seldom present though. We hired a supervisor (who'd be my supervisor).
Each supervisor would have 5 employees under them. Being a veteran I was actually teaching a lot to my "superiors" who just joined.
Since he was seldom present the director parted ways with the org. He gave me a heart to heart about how valuable I was and how he somewhat was put on alert to keep an eye on me specifically!
My old supervisor (we'll call her Karen). She js short, loud, somewhat annoying, intelligent, and competent (crosses T's and dots I's).
She is the type who gets all the way off on the job. When I first started she used to always introduce herself to everyone as "the boss". Hi, I'm "his boss!" Instead of just saying her name... it was off-putting. She even used to call her staff her people or "one of mine," which she eventually stopped after people brought to her attention how culturally gauche it was. She eventually got a promotion and so much more power which can only make her ego worse!
She's unmarried, no kids (freezing her eggs soon), makes good money, bought her own house, probably doesn't even get laid. One of those women who puts everything into her career. Truth be told she probably gets off on berating me as a male (being black may not help). She likes to overwhelm herself with stuff and gets off on telling folks she's too busy and doesn't have time to sit with them.
Like anyone else, she isn't all bad. She can be friendly (albeit fake sometimes) shows genuine care from time to time, and like I said, is intelligent... the type of student who was probably a hall monitor or would remind the teacher to collect the homework.
Anyway, even in the short time, staff in this new initiative have come and gone abruptyl. I've been active in bringing staff in. We now have a small crew of recent college grads who look like a college diversity poster. They are a cute little clique. The new supervisor - Afrcian American woman and I get along very well.
Me. As some of yall already know. I have a masters, I'm a very good presenter, humorous, I am friendly/charismafic and one of those dudes who lightens up the office atmosphere. Although I tend to slip sometimes keeping track with too much crap on the calendar. I give a lot in terms of volunteering and creating stuff the company benefits from. Overall I'm very good at what I do.
After training so many new people and these new kids coming in I began to feel underutilized. My coworkers, recognizing my tenure and how good I am, kept asking why I don't go for the director job. I told them "Please, they didn't even offer me supervisor".
After consideration I went for the Sup role. I also got a job offer doing a similar job as my current one. However, that job paid as much as the supervisor one here.
I spoke to a board member that likes me. He counseld me and advised me to talk to our CEO. The CEO of our agency is also a big time politician. She is cool with me too. After some talking, she eventually calls our VP and tells them to give me a 3 month trial period.
The director, Karen, and VP woman sit me in the office. They tell me I do not have supervisory experience and they can give me a trial period but it would be a risk on both of our parts as the grant requires 3 years of supervising. They can move me down to my current position if I "don't make it". I have some official supervision experience (like a year) and in my role acted as the site supervisor during our evening programs. Which I didn't know why they wouldn't count. I also mentor all of the new staff very thoroughly.
I told the other job yes, but would cancel if I stayed here. The other job I wouldn't have to worry about supervising people but this job I can get the supervision experience (and also extra stress). Another benefit is that this one offers is a shitload of vacation time!!! It's absurd. But I can think of the other job as more or less same amount of work for better salary. The other job is also in the city (which I hate) I gotta look for parking, and it's a bit "hood".
Anyway. I've been thinking about it, talking to family/coworkers. Everyone is pretty split. With some saying: fuck them, take the new job! Or the fact that I went over their heads, they'll never let me pass the 90 days and I'll be demoted back to my current position.
Others saying: Nah, take the supervisor job here and ride it through, I can do it.
If I say no to this I'll be slapping the CEO (who advocated for me) in the face. If I turn down the new agency on short notice I'll also feel like a dick, but I gotta do what's best for me. A bird in the hand or 2 in the bush?
I appreciate the advice in advance.
Inb4: TLDR
