Relationships I Love Native American Girls

[Long Dark Blues]

Like Mexicans?

Yeah, like Mexicans.

 

[mozfonky]

Ain't that the truth.

I'm sure poor sucks everywhere.

I got lucky enough to see quite a few different perspectives on that coin from an early age.

Parents split on my arrival, so drunk dumbass dad most weekends and "Got her shit together and married a proper man" mom on weekdays

Dad's was sketchy. Like... violent poor.
Knife fights in the apartment complex playground & drug dealers and shit. 2 girls got pregnant in 7th grade in the grade I would have been in if I went to that school district.

I grew up "hand me downs around rich/middle class folks"

No complaints.

That 'different accents' scene in "The Departed" hit close

Shit man, I'm raising my kids on consignment shop 2nd hand clothes in a town full of rich assholes. 2nd generation just barely scraping by around rich douchebags whose shit dont stank.
What what?

Being poor is a bitch. No fun whatsoever relatively speaking.


If you ever find yourself in North NJ and want to catch a beer and watch a fight first rounds on me.

would love to, the Boss is near isn't he? I've got to get there. I abstain from alcohol though, it's done my folks pretty bad. I'll have a diet coke or coffee gladly.

As far as poverty, I just can't get over how some people never have a shot, that will always bother me. You can do the old bootstraps thing but some people are put through such stuff they'll never recover.

The secondhand stores, I used to hate them, now it's all I buy, I love them and just ignore what people say. Humility will always be the best way for me to go, simplicity and humility.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

I think a lot of us are, but some tribes look different and not all that asiatic. Also, there are theories that we have been over here for a lot longer than the 10 thousand or whatever years they try to say we have. There have apparently been bones found that are liek 100,000 years old but the information has been surpressed, again, apparently. We don't really know the history of our planet and the scientists can't really be trusted.

I guess my confusion is what 'native' actually means. To me, if one is saying they are Native American that means that life actually started in North America. I might be wrong but I don't think it did.

As far as not looking Asiatic, there are Italians with red hair.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

Allegedly

Difficult to prove, I guess.

 

[mozfonky]

I guess my confusion is what 'native' actually means. To me, if one is saying they are Native American that means that life actually started in North America. I might be wrong but I don't think it did.

As far as not looking Asiatic, there are Italians with red hair.

it's just semantics, I really don't care much for semantics.

As far as the look, well, the looks of tribes can vary so much that I can't say they're all asiatic looking, at least not to me. Some are very tall (sioux) and some are very short, some have eyes that don't look that asiatic, others like my tribe do. In other words, plenty of Indians would have a hard time getting mistaken for chinese. I'm not one, when I worked for my Japanese mentor, people often mistook me for Japanese, I once got called, "a long haired jap sonofabitch" by someone I caught shoplifting.

 

[jeff7b9]

would love to, the Boss is near isn't he? I've got to get there. I abstain from alcohol though, it's done my folks pretty bad. I'll have a diet coke or coffee gladly.

I respect that. Boss I believe is more of a NJ shore guy. I'm tippy top north near ish the George Washington Bridge to NYC.

Played a few Bruce songs in bands over the years.
Sherry Darling was the most recent
On fire
Glory Days
Born To Run
Pink Cadillac

Probably more

As far as poverty, I just can't get over how some people never have a shot, that will always bother me. You can do the old bootstraps thing but some people are put through such stuff they'll never recover.

The secondhand stores, I used to hate them, now it's all I buy, I love them and just ignore what people say. Humility will always be the best way for me to go, simplicity and humility.

Yeah it is just the way of life for me.

I figured out a sweet hack. If you shop consignment shops near rich people you can find (and I have So Many times) good as new brand name shit. I hit a place called Platos Closet never spent more than $6-8 on any clothing item and MOST of the shit I wear most often including much of my best threads is from there.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

it's just semantics, I really don't care much for semantics.

As far as the look, well, the looks of tribes can vary so much that I can't say they're all asiatic looking, at least not to me. Some are very tall (sioux) and some are very short, some have eyes that don't look that asiatic, others like my tribe do. In other words, plenty of Indians would have a hard time getting mistaken for chinese. I'm not one, when I worked for my Japanese mentor, people often mistook me for Japanese, I once got called, "a long haired jap sonofabitch" by someone I caught shoplifting.

Yeah I'm not much into labeling people, places or things either. Just live and let live. When I was in the Navy one of my good mates was Dutch/Indonesian and so many thought he was Middle Eastern, Mongolian, etc, blah blah blah.

 

[mozfonky]

I respect that. Boss I believe is more of a NJ shore guy. I'm tippy top north near ish the George Washington Bridge to NYC.

Played a few Bruce songs in bands over the years.
Sherry Darling was the most recent
On fire
Glory Days
Born To Run
Pink Cadillac

Probably more



Yeah it is just the way of life for me.

I figured out a sweet hack. If you shop consignment shops near rich people you can find (and I have So Many times) good as new brand name shit. I hit a place called Platos Closet never spent more than $6-8 on any clothing item and MOST of the shit I wear most often including much of my best threads is from there.

I play several Bruce songs, wish I was proficient enough to learn at least a couple dozen more but Roy Bittan's parts are amongst the most complicated in all of rock music.

In Seattle, Bruce reverence isn't the same as it is in the midwest and east coast, Seattlelites are funny and they will just as often call Bruce a dork. It's a hipster town, something I never had anything in common with. One of the Bruce fanzine/book writers came from here, Charles Cross, who I met a couple times. He passed about 6 months ago. I sent a message as soon as I heard to Bruce/his people on facebook knowing it would matter to him.

I don't mind shopping at second hands, It's a habit and a nice break from routine, in fact, when I went through a deep funk last year, I really realized it because I had no interest in going and browsing at the local Value Village.

 

[mozfonky]

Yeah I'm not much into labeling people, places or things either. Just live and let live. When I was in the Navy one of my good mates was Dutch/Indonesian and so many thought he was Middle Eastern, Mongolian, etc, blah blah blah.

ya, I knew a dutch indonesian, very very darksinned fella, super nice guy. He asked to meet up after some 30 years, I should have done it. We used to work in a steel mill together.

 

[Hog-train]

Dated a Cherokee woman and a Chippewa woman. Both while I was living in St Louis.. they both were from Southern Illinois. Both amazing lays. The Chippewa chick had blue eyes which was a trip, must not have been full blooded I'm guessing.

I dated a half native half white girl and she was the best lay I ever had in my life. She was nuts.

I'm Native American/Indian. Native women are a gamble, more than any other race I know of. They seem to be at extremes more than most women. Some of them are drunks, loose/promiscuous, and many are total bitches to their own kinds, usually the ones that are educated or a little richer. And some are at the other end, sympathize with the men and indulge them in their backwards ways. Some are super sweet, humble and beautiful and others are so lost in addiction that they really are hopeless.

Sadly, of all of americas demographics, probably native women get treated the worst, go missing without a lot of outrage, deal with all sorts of abuses.

The beautiful ones have a ticket out, they'll wait for some chump with money to take them away, then they turn on their own and call them drunks and losers.

Bro I have never seen a full native person in my entire life. Where TF are you guys? LOL

Mmmmm, I don't know about that. The difference isn't that big. Most maps I've looked at have something like this:

So West Asians migrated into Europe 40,000 years ago and became Europeans. East Asians migrated into America 15,000 years ago and became Native Americans.

40 vs 15 isn't a massive difference, tbh. If it was 200 vs 5 ok, maaaaaybe.

Also, as @mozfonky pointed out, the Eskimo/Inuit natives who look exactly like native Siberians came by on a second wave, much later. So the "original" Americans came by 15,000 years ago but this last wave only about 5,000 years ago.

There is new current evidence that suggests a much earlier time - possibly as far back as 40,000 years ago.

And also there were Polynesians that made it here too.

So it's a little bit more complicated than people came from Siberia over the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago.

The earliest Americans arrived in the New World 30,000 years ago | University of Oxford

People travelled by boat to North America some 30,000 years ago, at a time when giant animals still roamed the continent and long before it was thought the earliest arrivals had made the crossing from Asia, archaeological research reveals today.

www.ox.ac.uk

 

[SpicyJoe]

Janette Littledove​

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0514692/

 

[mozfonky]

I dated a half native half white girl and she was the best lay I ever had in my life. She was nuts.



Bro I have never seen a full native person in my entire life. Where TF are you guys? LOL



There is new current evidence that suggests a much earlier time - possibly as far back as 40,000 years ago.

And also there were Polynesians that made it here too.

So it's a little bit more complicated than people came from Siberia over the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago.

The earliest Americans arrived in the New World 30,000 years ago | University of Oxford

People travelled by boat to North America some 30,000 years ago, at a time when giant animals still roamed the continent and long before it was thought the earliest arrivals had made the crossing from Asia, archaeological research reveals today.

www.ox.ac.uk

Not many left, I'm a half breed. Plenty of fullbloods in my family but usually older. My tribe in AK were amongst the last to be colonized.

 

[mozfonky]

There is new current evidence that suggests a much earlier time - possibly as far back as 40,000 years ago.

And also there were Polynesians that made it here too.

So it's a little bit more complicated than people came from Siberia over the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago.

The earliest Americans arrived in the New World 30,000 years ago | University of Oxford

People travelled by boat to North America some 30,000 years ago, at a time when giant animals still roamed the continent and long before it was thought the earliest arrivals had made the crossing from Asia, archaeological research reveals today.

www.ox.ac.uk

Yup I've heard that also. As I said, no one really.knoes the past.

 

[Swamps]

No boobies? What the hell!?

 

[jeff7b9]

I play several Bruce songs, wish I was proficient enough to learn at least a couple dozen more but Roy Bittan's parts are amongst the most complicated in all of rock music.

In Seattle, Bruce reverence isn't the same as it is in the midwest and east coast, Seattlelites are funny and they will just as often call Bruce a dork. It's a hipster town, something I never had anything in common with. One of the Bruce fanzine/book writers came from here, Charles Cross, who I met a couple times. He passed about 6 months ago. I sent a message as soon as I heard to Bruce/his people on facebook knowing it would matter to him.

I don't mind shopping at second hands, It's a habit and a nice break from routine, in fact, when I went through a deep funk last year, I really realized it because I had no interest in going and browsing at the local Value Village.

So you play the keys ?

Me too.

Been playing a lot of ukulele lately, but as you can see (pic below), I still think of music thru the lens of keys, which is my primary instrument, first instrument and favorite to play in terms of expression. Keys are everything, so versatile, screaming synths and organs down to soft strings and delicate piano, a whole (almost) orchestra right at your fingertips.

Springstein stuff is slick. It sounds easy at a glance but there are tricks and little nuances and shit.

I was learning a lot of the saxophone parts to play on harmonica in the most recent cover band I played with. The sax solos in Sherry Darling had some very clever little chromatic runs, definitely well thought out and crafted, was not easy.

 

[Hog-train]

Yup I've heard that also. As I said, no one really.knoes the past.

I think Natives are a mix of Siberian Asian groups that came in waves for thousands of years across the Bering Strait, some Polynesians that came across the ocean (this is confirmed through DNA), and now the older people from 40,000 years ago from eastern Eurasia that also came from boats.

Then of course, most Natives now have significant white blood in them.

 

[mozfonky]

I think Natives are a mix of Siberian Asian groups that came in waves for thousands of years across the Bering Strait, some Polynesians that came across the ocean (this is confirmed through DNA), and now the older people from 40,000 years ago from eastern Eurasia that also came from boats.

Then of course, most Natives now have significant white blood in them.

It never made sense how millions upon millions populated the entire America's in 10k years.

 

[Hog-train]

It never made sense how millions upon millions populated the entire America's in 10k years.

Actually historian Dan Flores said the Native Americans populated the entire Americas relatively very quickly. Getting to the southern tip of Latin America within a few hundred years.

Here he is on the Rogan podcast. Pretty interesting episode where he talks about the ancient Natives a lot.

 

[mozfonky]

So you play the keys ?

Me too.

Been playing a lot of ukulele lately, but as you can see (pic below), I still think of music thru the lens of keys, which is my primary instrument, first instrument and favorite to play in terms of expression. Keys are everything, so versatile, screaming synths and organs down to soft strings and delicate piano, a whole (almost) orchestra right at your fingertips.

Springstein stuff is slick. It sounds easy at a glance but there are tricks and little nuances and shit.

I was learning a lot of the saxophone parts to play on harmonica in the most recent cover band I played with. The sax solos in Sherry Darling had some very clever little chromatic runs, definitely well thought out and crafted, was not easy.

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Yes, keys, as you know, some of Bruce's songs are mainly key based, others guitar. I adapt the ones I like from guitar to piano.

The stuff Bruce did, pre-Darkness, is just so hard for me that I've never bothered to master a single song from that era, I'm doing Born to Run right now but I haven't had the time to perfect a 99 percent solid version on keys.

As far as the sax parts, I'm always wondering, really, with all the parts, just what Bruce composed and what Clarence and the rest composed. According to the Making Of Born To Run, Bruce would be right there coaching Clarence for every note, I doubt they worked that way every time though so I wonder how much of Bruce's entire arrangements are really his. The band had the talent to come up with their own parts. As far as harmonica, I've never really played it or had the time to try to master any other instrument than piano. If I had the time, I'd love to do a Prince type thing and play drums, guitar and keys.

 

[mozfonky]

Actually historian Dan Flores said the Native Americans populated the entire Americas relatively very quickly. Getting to the southern tip of Latin America within a few hundred years.

Here he is on the Rogan podcast. Pretty interesting episode where he talks about the ancient Natives a lot.

It's one thing to get there, I just don't know how they came up with that many millions. No one knows exactly how many were here but we know there were a lot on both continents. In the US, they decimated us to less than a mill by 1900 but no one knows how many exactly were wiped out in the genocide. Latin america for whatever it's faults, didn't carry out the genocide to that extent.