I just realized that Weidman and Rockhold destroyed each other

That was such a great fight on paper. It turned out to be a pretty good fight also. In hindsight its easy to forget how elite both guys seemed at the time

Wonder which guy will fight again first.
 
No, Bisping put a career long confidence buster on Rockhold. Sometimes being scrappy and determined is better than raw talent.
Gracious Warrior said:
All these years went by with me believing that Only Weidman had his career ended the night he fought Rockhold. But the reality is both guys were never the same after that fight.

Before the fight they were considered the two best middleweights in the world, after the fight they turned into walking KOs waiting to happen.

We know why Weidman was never the same. Luke hammered him like a nail through the octagon in one of the most brutal GNP sequences ever. But the real mystery is how did Rockhold get washed up? He's the one who did the brutalizing but somehow he was never the same.
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As much as people love to shit on Luke, he showed why he is one of the best fighters in the world that night imo. Dude had a nasty staph infection and was on antibiotics the entire camp. His coach Javier wanted to call off the fight multiple times. Hell you could see how gassed Luke was after the first round already. Yet he pushed through and had a brutal finish to get the title against an undefeated champion.

Gotta respect that. Sadly he shit the bed tight afterwards and never recovered.
 
I don't think Rockhold took too much damage in that fight. Weidman did, and coupled if you are to believe the rumours, his the change in weigh in procedure making it tougher for him to cut definitely had it rough after.

Rockhold I think was a mix of injuries and more importantly, mentally... It felt like he had made it to the top of the mountain and then he took the foot off the gas and thought it would be easy going forward and never pushed himself as much
 
Gracious Warrior said:
All these years went by with me believing that Only Weidman had his career ended the night he fought Rockhold. But the reality is both guys were never the same after that fight.

Before the fight they were considered the two best middleweights in the world, after the fight they turned into walking KOs waiting to happen.

We know why Weidman was never the same. Luke hammered him like a nail through the octagon in one of the most brutal GNP sequences ever. But the real mystery is how did Rockhold get washed up? He's the one who did the brutalizing but somehow he was never the same.
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I dislike the majority of Herbs calls and even though this one is also pretty heinous, I can sort of see why he let it go on. Weidman is “fighting back” all the way through, intelligently defending himself, and that g n p just comes out of nowhere, it’s not like Chris was rocked or close to being finished before hand. Should have been stopped at the end there though, but we’ve seen fighters come back from the brink. I feel like Edgar’s comebacks have added at least 5 seconds on to how long a ref is willing to wait before he calls off a beating
 
Romero took Rockholds manhood

First knocks the light off his ass off
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Then he sexualy assaulted him in front of everyone
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Gracious Warrior said:
All these years went by with me believing that Only Weidman had his career ended the night he fought Rockhold. But the reality is both guys were never the same after that fight.

Before the fight they were considered the two best middleweights in the world, after the fight they turned into walking KOs waiting to happen.

We know why Weidman was never the same. Luke hammered him like a nail through the octagon in one of the most brutal GNP sequences ever. But the real mystery is how did Rockhold get washed up? He's the one who did the brutalizing but somehow he was never the same.
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I counted over 80 consecutive strikes landing on an opponent not responding.
Herb didn’t like The Chris lol
 
Herb Dean sucks man. That's some Yamasaki level reffing.
 
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GordonMMARamsey said:
Something was odd about Weidman in that fight. From the start of the fight he looked slow and off. All the credit to Luke he fought the perfect fight but that looked nothing like the Weidman we had seen leading up to that.
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Weidman had always been slow. The issue was his cardio.
 
Rockhold destroyed himself, he is unbelievable dumb.
 
Gracious Warrior said:
All these years went by with me believing that Only Weidman had his career ended the night he fought Rockhold. But the reality is both guys were never the same after that fight.

Before the fight they were considered the two best middleweights in the world, after the fight they turned into walking KOs waiting to happen.

We know why Weidman was never the same. Luke hammered him like a nail through the octagon in one of the most brutal GNP sequences ever. But the real mystery is how did Rockhold get washed up? He's the one who did the brutalizing but somehow he was never the same.
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jesus, I did not remember that being so bad, abysmal reffing with a clear view of the action.
 
SashaIsABot said:
When we talk about life-changing or career-ending beatdown, what would you say is at play here ?
Is this more of a psychological mechanism, like, after such a beatdown, the sole idea of getting back in the octagon gives you nightmares ? And while fighting, you get overly cautious, or even fearful, effectively shutting you down ? Can self confidence be shattered to the point you transform into a ghost ?
Or is it party due to physical damages : brain damage, muscle and bone damages, anything chronic pain-inducing or movement-limiting ? Can your chin definitely fail after such a beatdown ?
Is this a combination of all this or am I missing something ?
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I would say all of that is at play to some degree.
 
Herb Dean is brutal. I forgot how bad that beating was.
 
JustOnce said:
Personally think Weidman and Rockhold and Mousasi and Jacare and Romero, all of them back in the same weight class, Israel would have NEVER became a champ. If he had to go through them. Not sure if he would have winning record either.

Israel didn't have to face a SINGLE one in his run to the title. I guess UFC knows what they are doing to build people. They just got these murderers to fight each other.
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Mousasi I think is the best middle weight of them
And your right prime of any of them, izzy wouldn't be champ
 
Not really accurate. Luke did kill Weidman, but otherwise Rockhold always had shit striking defense. He just faced 3 guys in a row who took advantage of that and KO'd him in brutal fashion, but Teh Chris didn't have much to do with it. He also had that crazy injury in his shin.
 
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