I've been watching since 2007 and have seen most of Randy's fights lol. I don't care if someone wins in a boring way now and then. It's just all the snobby pretending. Sometimes shit is boring it's ok.
Well being better does tend to help with not losing lmao. Some would even say it's a primary ingredient. I dunno why people keep telling me it's not against the rules to be boring. I watched Jon Fitch's entire career.
...but this is factually incorrect. It takes a lot of skill to dominate with wrestling like that.
I'm not sure what O'Malley has to do with Val tapping out in her first fight against Grasso. But yes, I'm talking about when a fighter makes the decision to quit in a fight, they shouldn't be gifted an instant rematch.
It’s very simple
When did O'Malley, as champ, tap out and then get an instant rematch? There literally is no comparison.
The comparison was clearly around people deserving or earning things
Sure I can. You're argument doesn't work.
Yes. Yes it does.
Eh. You are correct that Grasso should get her flowers for finishing the first fight. That was an incredible performance. She was very clearly losing until that happened though. Val won the rematch in most people's eyes, just not the three that mattered. She was quite deserving of that immediate rematch too. WMMA has a shallow talent pool when compared to the men's divisions and there are several examples of immediate rematches (agree or disagree with them at the time) to set a precedence. She's well above the level of every other challenger in the division and showed plenty of signs that she was also better than the champ during their first fight. Shevchenko isn't young enough to climb that hill again and no one would have been surprised when she inevitably did. Outcome of the trilogy fight only adds validity to all of this.
Nah wrestling takes skill what I meant is the snobby crowd that acts like the people that don't enjoy lnp are just too dumb to understand it. I've watched thousands of fights I definitely get the intricacies of body, body, head.
I generally agree with your take but there really isn't any precedence when it comes to which champs get instant rematches when they lose. Aljo didn't get one when Sean knocked him out. And of course the most obvious was Jose Aldo not getting one either. I'm not saying Val needed to climb through the rankings again, but asking her to pick up just one win shouldn't be out of the question considering how she lost her belt. No one expected Grasso to win that first fight, and certainly not the way she won. That's why its better to actually have these fighters fight rather than just assume what would happen if they did fight.
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You're right. Kamaru got the rematch after Leon sent him to the shadow realm. DC got to take an easier fight with Derrick Lewis before fighting Stipe again, while Stipe had to give DC an immediate rematch. You make a good point regarding a lack of consistency. Precedence was probably too strong of a statement in hindsight lol
Not trying to be argumentative, as we agree on the subject more than we disagree...but I am a bit curious. If Shev wouldn't have tapped and went to sleep instead, does that change your opinion? Is your stance strictly tied to willingly quitting or does it more broadly cover any and all stoppages?
