I Don’t Understand Why Some Fans Put Usman Over Hughes at 170 All Time

[Gabe]

Hughes Best Wins:
Carlos Newton x2
GSP
B.J. Penn
Frank Trigg x2
Sean Sherk
Hayato Sakurai

Usman Best Wins:
Woodley
Covington
Burns
Masvidal
RDA

How can anyone not have Hughes as the second best welterweight of all time? His resume is obviously better than Usman no question.

 

[Sonny Qc]

GSP haterz,
When Lawler and Usman were champ,
they all told us they would beat GSP.

lol lol.

 

[RockyLockridge]

People desperate for a new messiah

 

[DougieJones]

I honestly think many posters here just never really watched him fight... maybe a few at the tail end but that's it

 

[Pierce 34]

Usman was a rematch machine

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Dana White propaganda

 

[Disconnected]

Because of what he and his brother did behind the barn.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

Gsp win alone and sherk are better then anything usman win

 

[lotusdogman]

Hughes Best Wins:
Carlos Newton x2
GSP
B.J. Penn
Frank Trigg x2
Sean Sherk
Hayato Sakurai

Usman Best Wins:
Woodley
Covington
Burns
Masvidal
RDA

How can anyone not have Hughes as the second best welterweight of all time? His resume is obviously better than Usman no question.

I think it's just recency bias, same reason people discount BJ Penn from goat lists nowadays. But yea after he lost to Penn in '04 he went on a fucking tear.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

It's just a way to discredit GSP

1. GSP
2. Hughes
3. Usman

 

[AmonTobin]

One of Usman's best fights was against Khamzat imo, which wasn't mentioned here because it wasn't a win. I'm not a fan of disparaging the accomplishments or careers of bygone fighters but I appreciate the argument that modern day champs are possibly facing more complicated repertoire of skills and tactics in their competition but I also appreciate that these guys in the past did incredible things in the time they lived in. Whether the past or present, fighters are theoretically sharing level playing fields with their opponents so I hate saying one is better than another. Impossible to say how Hughes would have done growing up, training, and competing in today's world, just as it's impossible to say how Usman would have done growing up, training, and competing in Hughes' time. Usman's numerous title fight rematches arguably weakens his legacy, if we're comparing WW greats resumes imo.

 

[laleggenda27]

Most mma fans are new to the game and couldn't pick Hughes out from a lineup.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Maybe because Hughes is unlikeable and a creep, but Hughes is objectively higher on the WW goat list imo

 

[richardjohnson]

Probably the same idiots that tried to tell me that Colby would be an all time great WW if not for Usman.

 

[Skarsgard]

Maybe because Hughes is unlikeable and a creep, but Hughes is objectively higher on the WW goat list imo

Unlikable and a creep for sure, but I don't think he's objectively higher. I don't think Hughes would have sniffed title contention in the era that Usman held the belt.

 

[Last Falconry]

Might have something to do with Hughes being a lunatic and an asshole

 

[Mike]

Remember we're getting old. I'd bet most of them have never seen Hughes fight outside of him getting finished on highlight reels.

 

[Savage]

Hughes Best Wins:
Carlos Newton x2
GSP
B.J. Penn
Frank Trigg x2
Sean Sherk
Hayato Sakurai

Usman Best Wins:
Woodley
Covington
Burns
Masvidal
RDA

How can anyone not have Hughes as the second best welterweight of all time? His resume is obviously better than Usman no question.

 

[Savage]

Usually because they weren't watching during the era. Like newer fans don't understand the greatness of Fedor, BJ Penn etc.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Tbf, if Kamaru and Mo pounded eachother behind a barn, Kamaru might have retired undefeated. If he had country breakfasts? Sky is the limit. Dominant triple champ, likely.