I don’t understand the hate on PEDs users

true_fan said:
Yet,the elites are failing!! Mods ban this weak arse argument please!
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You dont know if Jon was on PEDs for the fights before he failed. Also Team Alpha Male talked about how TJ juices and then later he failed a drug trst, coincidence? Sometimes you get caught sometimes you dont.
 
Bob Sapp said:
Everyone is on PEDs. Its just a reality of professional sports. People who arent pro athletes (99.9% of sherdog) wont know how it works behind the scenes.
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Ahh the tried and true automatic go to response so you feel better about supporting a cheater. No not everyone is on roids pal. Some people want to know how good they really are, some people have respect and honor.
 
muaytao said:
It’s funny how certain fighters get hated for juicing.... but then ignore others that are clearly juicing or got caught in the pass for cheating....cris cyborg, Brock, Romero, Anderson Silva, vitor, Bigfoot etc

IMO I don’t really care that they cheat but it will always be in my mind who the real good fighters are. And who had to cheat to be good. That is all.
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It’s really simple of why fighter (a) busted not so much hate vs fighter (b) busted a lot hate.
Fighters (a) humble comes out says he did them for what ever reason most time don’t get as much hate. Fighter (b) blame or say they never did them, it’s was in gnc products, ect. Don’t get a pass to much.

Now if you are talking about jones. He still acts like he has never took roids, but yet still pulsating after 2 years lol. He a snitch ass rat since high school. he got kids kicked out for smoking weed, hypocritical when he a drug head. Wrecks into someone, runs, then runs back to his rental car, grabs his gum bag probably has drugs and roids in it. He never once checked on the person he wrecked into, I can’t respect no one like that.
 
CerebralKnievel said:
I always find the comments such as "so and so is a filthy cheat and coward" or "this guy relied on steroids his entire career for all we know" to be just utter cringe. They seem to imply that these armchair losers delude themselves into believing that if they were on PEDs, they too would be world class martial artists.
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That has nothing to do with it. Do I really need to explain? Jeezo. Some people just don't like cheats no matter what it is, poker, money cheats, sports etc. Some people want to know who is the best for real.
 
These "fans" who are so offended by today's juicers were Pride fans back in the day, loved all there heroes from yesteryear and everyone of those guys were pumped full of all sorts of shit. Fucking hypocrites. MMA fans are the worst
 
once PEDs enters a sport, goodbye plain field.

PED user vs Clean one = PED user has an advantage
richer PED user vs poorer PED user = richer one has an advantage

wherever you see it, of you like the idea of competition you cannot condone PEDs.
otherwise there's already prowrestling, where none gives a fuck about who is actually the best wrestler.
 
Bob Sapp said:
Everyone is on PEDs. Its just a reality of professional sports. People who arent pro athletes (99.9% of sherdog) wont know how it works behind the scenes.
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And everyone cuts weight to the point now that we have a guy whose naturally a LHW walking around as the worlds best 155lb fighter.

Even though everyone cuts weight, we still give shit for guys who miss weight. Think about it one guy will weigh 155, and the next will miss weight at 156. But by fight time they will both be 185lbs+.

Yet we will still shit on the guy that missed weight and didnt weigh 155lbs.

How is steroids any different? Yea 90+% of guys are on it, but showing up on weight and showing up with a clean test are 2 things we expect from these guys.
 
GiSP said:
I’m sick of assholes justifying PED use. You’re amoral, and don’t have the guts to stand up for what’s right. So you turn into candyasses, and instead of condemning it you excuse it.
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Exactly. You’re either amoral or you’re not, and as a result, you either don’t care or you do.
 
Bob Sapp said:
Josh Barnett was on PEDs he has a dad bod. Whats yoir point? Could be using EPO still or something else for cardio. You never know what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of people were saying Lyoto Machida would never take PEDs cz hes all about honor and shit. Lol. Remember that?
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PED barnet looked BILLION times better than non PED barnet

stfu lol
 
Bob Sapp said:
He could be clean but you cant trust any professional athlete %100 if theyve never taken PEDs. Theyre using their bodies to make money in a sport where PEDs would help a lot, especially EPO.
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but MMA money sucks & talent pool is trash.

my brother plays for the 3 divison (soccer). They can give you something for recovery, but you can still say no.

If he made 20-30 million a year, he would probably have taken PEDs for recovery.

I would never destroy my body for 1-2 million.
 
HI SCOTT NEWMAN said:
All the fighters you listed did get a lot of hate at the time though, except for Bigfoot and thats because most people feel sorry for him because he had a big tumor and took some TRT to help him afterwards which was prescribed by a actual doctor.
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i never got why people felt sorry for Bigfoot. motherfucker has a disease that literally turned him into a giant. and then he wanted to roid on top of that? wtf does he want a gun too?

how is that not an advantage?
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
i never got why people felt sorry for Bigfoot. motherfucker has a disease that literally turned him into a giant. and then he wanted to roid on top of that? wtf does he want a gun too?

how is that not an advantage?
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I don't believe he has ever tested positive for steroids, he took a TRT exemption from a doctor after he had surgery, but they said its not allowed anymore so they fined him
 
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