I bought a PS4. Now what?

[StabbyMcHatchet]

Stop with the FPS bullshit.

Uhhh, no.

 

[Wariowokecancel]

Uhhh, no.

Well then, I ain’t helping you.

 

[StabbyMcHatchet]

Well I am an FPS fan and I play FPS games, but that doesn't mean I won't play others. I have been enjoying Horizon Zero Dawn, even though I haven't played it for a few weeks due to Destiny.

 

[SUPERPREDAT0R]

Last game I ever gave a fuxk about was Halo 1

 

[StabbyMcHatchet]

...so elite.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Well I am an FPS fan and I play FPS games,

Then you shouldnt be on console. Its sadly that simple.

 

[Madmick]

Then you shouldnt be on console. Its sadly that simple.

C'mon, Kane. You know it doesn't boil down to this.

Maybe he likes the games where they add a massive RNG bloom just because you jumped to mitigate the skill gap *cough* Destiny 2 *cough*

Jokes aside, some guys just prefer the couch & controller, and have their friend networks steeped in the console ecosystems.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Jokes aside, some guys just prefer the couch & controller, and have their friend networks steeped in the console ecosystems.

I Pc gamed from the couch during 2008 till 2013. So i understand the want/need to do so. Those who buy consoles for ease of access to gaming from not having to build a Pc i also understand.

One thing i cant accept is a player whos sole purpose is to play FPS games on consoles. Input device is inferior to mouse/keyboard, controllers have a 75ms+ input delay and the display used isnt designed for gaming that additionally only operates at 60hz. The single genre that shows the glaring age of console design is the FPS genre.

Do any FPS games exist that are console exclusive?

 

[Madmick]

I Pc gamed from the couch during 2008 till 2013. So i understand the want/need to do so. Those who buy consoles for ease of access to gaming from not having to build a Pc i also understand.

One thing i cant accept is a player whos sole purpose is to play FPS games on consoles. Input device is inferior to mouse/keyboard, controllers have a 75ms+ input delay and the display used isnt designed for gaming that additionally only operates at 60hz. The single genre that shows the glaring age of console design is the FPS genre.

Do any FPS games exist that are console exclusive?

Doesn't matter. They prefer the controller for FPS, and however one argues objective mapping with input, that's moot because (unless Microsoft makes a bizarre decision with the upcoming KB+M support) the playing field is a level one so long as you're competing against other guys holding controllers.

As for 60Hz, LOL, good luck selling that. Have you followed this thread? I can't even get these guys to consider how they might appreciate that advantage (if they came to know it) without asking them to step out of their ecosystem, and not get spit on for it. "You don't know me!!"

FPS console exclusives?

Halo 5
Killzone: Shadow Fall (the "Halo killer", remember? LMFAO)

That's all I've got.

 

[StabbyMcHatchet]

lol at you @KaNesDeath for bringing supposed KBD/M "superiority" into a thread I created about buying a PS4. A thread in which I explicitly stated that I am an Xbox gamer.
You're talking to a gamer born in 1973, and I love FPS games on a console. You can sit there all high and mighty and delude yourself that FPS gamers shouldn't play on a console with dual analog controllers, but 20 million people would disagree with you.

Add to that, I never said that I was ONLY interested in playing FPS games.

If I wanted to play on a goddamned keyboard, I would. Simply put, I don't. I have a gaming laptop and have some games on it and it's just not my thing.

 

[number 9]

Rhetorical questions are by definition assertions, and your rhetorical question was itself an attack. Don't fish for pity because it took me a single sentence to shred its shortsighted logic.

Because the question isn't whether or not he is satisfied with his purchase; it abstractly ponders whether he would likely be more or less satisfied in the long term if he purchased the PS4 Pro instead, but more broadly, it weighs these considerations to the benefit of all gamers facing the same question who read this. I also challenge the sophist presumption that people know themselves perfectly, and are perfectly objective when assessing their own subjective experiences (pssst: they're not).

Then if you review Digital Foundry's ongoing coverage you'll see that the original and Slim units are inferior because they do sometimes suffer from this, or alternatively survey mass anecdote across the web. One can expect this problem to worsen as it did towards the tail end of the previous generation of consoles.

Why? Is his current TV the last one he will ever own? Did you stop to consider that he might still be gaming on this PS4 a decade from now?

4K TVs will gain US household majority share by the end of 2019, and it isn't hard to see why when I'm seeing sales for 55" 4K Roku+HDR units for $350. Furthermore, I have already expounded on the fact the noticeable graphical advantages-- to everyday people including "casual" gamers-- are evident on 1080p screens, too.

Already back to the same failed argument that I just speared.

Again we’re talking about casual gamers who just plays here and there and use the system for movies and stuff... if you don’t need the latest, newest and greatest to be able to use the slim 10-20 years from now i don’t see any problems.

To this day I still play snes and genesis... so if he can play the slim years away from now why would he need any of the stuff your going on about?

We can’t predict the future so maybe it won’t be like snes and genesis where any television will work with the system.

If the slim becomes useless than i can see what you’re saying, but we don’t know that and most likely the slim will prob last forever just like snes and genesis

 

[number 9]

Pretty close. I essentially have far more desire to save $200 now than for any of the added benefits of a Pro. I don't currently have a 4k tv and have no idea when I will be in the market to get one.

I think other gamers want to be helpful and give advice on what they think is wise with these purchases but ultimately it is up to the individual to decide what they care about. The X and the Pro are important to some people but to me seem very unnecessary.

Yea you’re not a hardcore gamer so I’m lost why the guy keeps saying you made a mistake on your purchase.. but if you’re a hardcore gamer his information seems pretty much spot on

 

[number 9]

My point on if he should or shouldn’t, was specific on IF his current tv/monitor might be long enough in the tooth that it won’t outlast the current system he buys.

And with prices dropping so much on 4k’s that he MIGHT buy one when it’s time for a new tv.

If none of that applies, or might not ever come to Fruition, then it’s probubaly ok not too.

I didn’t ever see myself getting a 4K, hell I’ve said many times I’m still happy with my 720p plasma in my bedroom.

BUT the prices I’m seeing them at now, are in line and sometimes even lower than what I paid for my 1080 in the living room.

So when the time comes for it to die, I most likely will get a 4K, it makes sense from a price point standard.

Since you can buy them now, for more than likely what he paid for his 1080

I’m not saying everyone should buy a 4K console, but I can see the argument for how it might be benificial from a long term cost perspective.

Like i mentioned before.

Buy a non pro for 299, 6 months down the road 1080p tv dies.

Buys 4K tv, since it’s the good deal he finds.

After a month or so owning a 4K tv, decideds he wants to play his games at 4K , now has to buy another console.

That’s my point.

Yea I see what you’re saying.. there’s a chance he could lose money in the long run incase he changes his mind.. but it seems he’s not really a gamer nor he care much for 4K visuals..

But we all change minds in a blink of an eye so I def see what you’re trying to say

 

[Madmick]

Again we’re talking about casual gamers who just plays here and there and use the system for movies and stuff... if you don’t need the latest, newest and greatest to be able to use the slim 10-20 years from now i don’t see any problems.

To this day I still play snes and genesis... so if he can play the slim years away from now why would he need any of the stuff your going on about?

We can’t predict the future so maybe it won’t be like snes and genesis where any television will work with the system.

If the slim becomes useless than i can see what you’re saying, but we don’t know that and most likely the slim will prob last forever just like snes and genesis

This is an irrelevant argument. There is no "Genesis Pro" or ""SNES X" which you could have purchased when those units came out for a mere $77 more (since I'll retroactively adjust that $150 difference for inflation).

And if you could have had one of those for $77 more with the capability to output to 720p (or 1080p) all these years later I bet you even the average "casual gamer" would be kicking himself for not buying that variant-- on that one spec advantage alone.

 

[IamStryker]

Yea you’re not a hardcore gamer so I’m lost why the guy keeps saying you made a mistake on your purchase.. but if you’re a hardcore gamer his information seems pretty much spot on

What exactly is the definition of hardcore gamer anyway?

The problem is what people want and care about in life can change by a lot as they get older. That is just one more layer of subjectivity on this issue. I have a family and not nearly as much time to game as I did in the past. That makes me care even less about the added features of the pro than I already did which was very little.

Even if someone has a lot of useful information it's very important to listen to what someone wants and cares about. I care so little about the added graphics of the Pro and other features that saving the money is much more important to me. My only goal was to play the exclusives on the PS4. It's strange to me that some people think that is a mistake after hearing what it is I care about.

 

[90 50]

Doesn't matter. They prefer the controller for FPS, and however one argues objective mapping with input, that's moot because (unless Microsoft makes a bizarre decision with the upcoming KB+M support) the playing field is a level one so long as you're competing against other guys holding controllers.

As for 60Hz, LOL, good luck selling that. Have you followed this thread? I can't even get these guys to consider how they might appreciate that advantage (if they came to know it) without asking them to step out of their ecosystem, and not get spit on for it. "You don't know me!!"

FPS console exclusives?

Halo 5
Killzone: Shadow Fall (the "Halo killer", remember? LMFAO)

That's all I've got.

Sometimes, when I’m not feeling like sitting in front of my computer, in the office it’s nice to just relax on the couch with a controller in your hand.

Got to woman a cricut for Christmas, she’s got it on the coffee table cutting crafts out, and a fire is going and I’m running through rage

It’s nice, we could both be at our desks in the office me on my pc and her at her desk with our backs to each other but this is more enjoyable sometimes.

I like both, but sometimes even on FPS games,just being on the couch with a controller.

 

[number 9]

This is an irrelevant argument. There is no "Genesis Pro" or ""SNES X" which you could have purchased when those units came out for a mere $77 more (since I'll retroactively adjust that $150 difference for inflation).

And if you could have had one of those for $77 more with the capability to output to 720p (or 1080p) all these years later I bet you even the average "casual gamer" would be kicking himself for not buying that variant-- on that one spec advantage alone.

What? I still play the original snes and genesis on the box television.. like how I used to in the 90’s and enjoy it that way so no I wouldn’t spent the extra $77 to play in 720p or 1080p

Okay, I have a question and hope you can help out since you seem to know a lot about systems

The regular PS4 I have made this loud beep sound randomly.. I bought it couple months ago. the beep sound happened twice so far.. I searched around the internet and the only answers I found.. the beep sound happening because people changed the PS4 hard drive or the beep sound happened then the disc comes out

I still have the factory hard drive in the PS4 and mine only just get the beep sound.. None of the disc ejection problems others experienced.. it happened when I was on YouTube and I think the other time when I was dling an update for a game.. it was a very loud beep sound so it’s kind of worrying.. do you know anything about this issue? Is this even an issue? Everything seems to work fine but is this something I should worry about?

 

[number 9]

What exactly is the definition of hardcore gamer anyway?

The problem is what people want and care about in life can change by a lot as they get older. That is just one more layer of subjectivity on this issue. I have a family and not nearly as much time to game as I did in the past. That makes me care even less about the added features of the pro than I already did which was very little.

Even if someone has a lot of useful information it's very important to listen to what someone wants and cares about. I care so little about the added graphics of the Pro and other features that saving the money is much more important to me. My only goal was to play the exclusives on the PS4. It's strange to me that some people think that is a mistake after hearing what it is I care about.

I think a hardcore gamer is someone that spends 5+ hours everyday on gaming and pay attention to every little details about anything gaming..

Yea man I hear you I def understand why you wouldn’t care at all as you get older..

I’m kinda the opposite though... as I get older I could see myself becoming a hardcore gamer when I’m all grey’ed out haha.. but not really the new stuff because my favs have always been those side scrolling beat ‘em up games like final fight, turtles in time, punisher etc etc

I’m starting to play snes a lot again.. it gives you that nice lil nostalgia feeling...

 

[IamStryker]

I think a hardcore gamer is someone that spends 5+ hours everyday on gaming and pay attention to every little details about anything gaming..

Yea man I hear you I def understand why you wouldn’t care at all as you get older..

I’m kinda the opposite though... as I get older I could see myself becoming a hardcore gamer when I’m all grey’ed out haha.. but not really the new stuff because my favs have always been those side scrolling beat ‘em up games like final fight, turtles in time, punisher etc etc

I’m starting to play snes a lot again.. it gives you that nice lil nostalgia feeling...

I shouldn't have said care because my desire to game really hasn't changed but it's your priorities that changes. My family is more important than playing video games 5 hours a day. I still desire to play as much as I can and I usually do play for hours a day and I look at gaming news just about every single day. IMO I don't know how I wouldn't qualify as a hardcore gamer. Just because I'm not that interested in the Pro really doesn't change anything. The only way I would EVER care to get the Pro is if I had unlimited funds.

I 100% expect to be gaming my entire life. Even if I live to be in my nineties.

 

[StabbyMcHatchet]

I 100% expect to be gaming my entire life. Even if I live to be in my nineties.

Amen.