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I am an ex-Scientologist. (LONG read)

Your credibility just went down the tube when you joined the Internet Retard Bandwagon which is "Anonymous".

Sorry, cowards who protest an "oppressive organization" with Guy Fawkes masks becaus they thought V for Vendetta was sexy? Should be laughed out of civilized political discourse.

Seriously man. At this point? I think your testimonial is a bunch of garbage. Why else would you associate with this group if you were legit? Why would you discredit yousrelf? Or fuck - why would you post this on Sherdog.com and not to a newspaper? They accept anonymous testimonials.

You're not "Anonymous". You're "4 chan". Aka: The largest, easiest to access child porn depository in the world.

I dont get it Dr. S.
 
so DSD doesnt like anon for reasons hes not interested in specifying and now wants to make an ass of himself?

look man, anon takes action against the CoS and supports ex-members like will. bitch and call them cowards all you want, but you know exactly why they wear masks. havent you been reading this thread?

i dont see anyone else organizing nationwide protests and such, or drumming up media attention about CoS' crimes. someone has to do the thankless job of raising awareness and they are doing it just fine AND peacefully and in cooperation with local police.

but dont listen to reason, make some snap judgments and go with that
 
Your credibility just went down the tube when you joined the Internet Retard Bandwagon which is "Anonymous".

Sorry, cowards who protest an "oppressive organization" with Guy Fawkes masks becaus they thought V for Vendetta was sexy? Should be laughed out of civilized political discourse.

Seriously man. At this point? I think your testimonial is a bunch of garbage. Why else would you associate with this group if you were legit? Why would you discredit yousrelf? Or fuck - why would you post this on Sherdog.com and not to a newspaper? They accept anonymous testimonials.

You're not "Anonymous". You're "4 chan". Aka: The largest, easiest to access child porn depository in the world.

lol?

How is the PCP up in New York these days? Still gets the job done I see.
 
This was moved to the WR which in turn messed up my post count. This account was to retire at 5000K.

Thankfully it will be moved again at some point so for now I will just keep it confined to this thread.

lol omg sorry Cujo!

When the CoS collapses, I'll do what I can to see that this thread gets moved to the dump again. I'll put it in my will, should it happen 100 years from now. lol
 
this thread just killed 3 hours of my day working on the opposite coast, will i appreciate it
 
Your credibility just went down the tube when you joined the Internet Retard Bandwagon which is "Anonymous".

Sorry, cowards who protest an "oppressive organization" with Guy Fawkes masks becaus they thought V for Vendetta was sexy? Should be laughed out of civilized political discourse.

Seriously man. At this point? I think your testimonial is a bunch of garbage. Why else would you associate with this group if you were legit? Why would you discredit yousrelf? Or fuck - why would you post this on Sherdog.com and not to a newspaper? They accept anonymous testimonials.

You're not "Anonymous". You're "4 chan". Aka: The largest, easiest to access child porn depository in the world.

What a strangely hostile post. I think that any group that peacefully supports people exiting Scientology and works to expose illegal and immoral activity deserves more credit than you are giving... and certainly it seems worthwhile to support Will in his "escape." Scientology is a scam and deeply corrupt - best to keep in mind the "lesser of two evils" even if you have some issue with the other org(s).
 
Your credibility just went down the tube when you joined the Internet Retard Bandwagon which is "Anonymous".

Sorry, cowards who protest an "oppressive organization" with Guy Fawkes masks becaus they thought V for Vendetta was sexy? Should be laughed out of civilized political discourse.

Seriously man. At this point? I think your testimonial is a bunch of garbage. Why else would you associate with this group if you were legit? Why would you discredit yousrelf? Or fuck - why would you post this on Sherdog.com and not to a newspaper? They accept anonymous testimonials.

You're not "Anonymous". You're "4 chan". Aka: The largest, easiest to access child porn depository in the world.

Seriously?
 
What a strangely hostile post. I think that any group that peacefully supports people exiting Scientology and works to expose illegal and immoral activity deserves more credit than you are giving... and certainly it seems worthwhile to support Will in his "escape." Scientology is a scam and deeply corrupt - best to keep in mind the "lesser of two evils" even if you have some issue with the other org(s).

DSD has weird issues with a lot of things. I wouldn't read too much into it.
 
DSD has weird issues with a lot of things. I wouldn't read too much into it.

im guessing its generic hate for the internet and internet-lurkers, plus disdain for the romanticizing of guy fauwkes, with a dash of knee-jerk hysteria because some people post CP on the chans.

obviously that doesnt have much to do with the group of people thats been effectively dressing-down the CoS in the public eye, but its clearly a hot button.

btw, i saw pictures of you unmasked at that protest will. you are a nutcase but im pulling for you :p glad the local anons have received you well
 
As far as I know I'm under no obligation to answer any questions whatsoever. Most questions I have had posed to me over the last 10 years on the net have been rude to put it mildly. (I have answered many despite this.)

People are free to think and believe what they choose based on whatever they wish. (As you are as well.) However being a "brainwashed" Scientologist my words aren't going to have much of an effect on those who have already made up their mind based on information gotten from sites critical of Scientology.

I long ago gave up trying to sway such individuals viewpoints. Waste of time.

Further in the last ten years or so I can count on one hand the number of people willing to actually learn about the subject by studying the actual texts by Mr. Hubbard. I have heard many learned opinions on the subject by many enlightened posters that haven't read anything by Mr. Hubbard (besides stuff they have gotten from anti-scientology sites). A great example of this is the classic Mr. Hubbard said that the way to get rich is to start a religion. I can't prove he didn't say this so don't waste my time doing so. But it's almost always parroted by individuals who haven't listened to any of Mr. Hubbard's published lectures or read any of his published books. Many that refuse to do so even when I have offered to lend them a book or lecture.

Many will say all sorts on things on the net. I've had some truly nasty things said about me, my family and my friends just because of my being a Scientologist. I guess its the price I pay. Funny that people in real life don't talk like that to me when they find out my religion. Even my jiu-jitsu training partners don't talk to me like that when they find out my religion. Some have asked sincere questions and I have answered them. I like talking about my religion. I don't like vituperation.

I've had tough times like everyone else in and out of my religion. No one's perfect, especially me. But my perspective on my religion (church and philosophy) is certainly different than yours. If people have a question about that then I'd be more than willing to answer them. (Maybe there have been some buried in earlier posts that I have missed.)

Best,

Randy

I've read Battlefield Earth.

It wasn't very good and was stupidly long.
 
I'm going to use this post as a primary means to response to the general comments about my last one. This one is most specific and therefore most useful.

so DSD doesnt like anon for reasons hes not interested in specifying and now wants to make an ass of himself?

I specified them. My reasons:

1. They are internet retards. They are the main source of every retarded, hackneyed internet joke that we have to contend with for fucking years after the fact any serious funny person has avoided it.
2. They are promulgators of child pornography. The chans are filled with the shit.
3. They are cowards.

I can add that their other political actions include vandalizing memorial websites for dead children and posting fake allegations of child abuse on the Oprah Winfrey show message boards (admittedly the last was hilarious and one of their only good jokes).

look man, anon takes action against the CoS and supports ex-members like will. bitch and call them cowards all you want, but you know exactly why they wear masks. havent you been reading this thread?

Cowards are cowards despite having good reasons to -be- cowards. They hide behind a mask because they haven't the balls to face the Church of Scientology mano-et-mano, even when they have supposedly thousands with them that are supporting them. This is the height of cowardice.

Who cares what the Church "can do" to you? If you're serious about attacking the Church, then be a man, take off the mask, and do it like real people do when they have a problem with things. Guy Fawkes masks don't make you cool. They make you look like a troglodyte churl.

i dont see anyone else organizing nationwide protests and such, or drumming up media attention about CoS' crimes. someone has to do the thankless job of raising awareness and they are doing it just fine AND peacefully and in cooperation with local police.

The CoS commits precious few crimes. They commit, perhaps, cultish acts, but very few crimes. It is not a crime to tell someone they should do what you say.

Also, their very presence? Discredits the cause. When inferior people come out against something, superior people generally disregard what they say. 4chan is the epicentre of internet inferiority.

but dont listen to reason, make some snap judgments and go with that

It isn't reason. It's nonsense like the bullshit that Will is spreading.

Will, seriously man, how the -fuck- are you supposed to have us believe your story? You're associated with a clown college, for Christ's sake. Why should we believe a single damn word of what you say, when you hide behind Sherdog and hide behind 4chan?

Seriously, guess what friend? Real people? Go to -newspapers- not INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS ABOUT MMA, to spread scandalous shit. Maybe it is because you got turned down for having nothing to back up your claims? Or even nothing to offer any reasonable newspaper?

If not, go find a newpaper. Publish your damn testimonials. Sherdog is not the place and frankly, I think that any reasonable person would say you're a liar on these points.
 
I'm going to use this post as a primary means to response to the general comments about my last one. This one is most specific and therefore most useful.
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It isn't reason. It's nonsense like the bullshit that Will is spreading.

Will, seriously man, how the -fuck- are you supposed to have us believe your story? You're associated with a clown college, for Christ's sake. Why should we believe a single damn word of what you say, when you hide behind Sherdog and hide behind 4chan?

Seriously, guess what friend? Real people? Go to -newspapers- not INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS ABOUT MMA, to spread scandalous shit. Maybe it is because you got turned down for having nothing to back up your claims? Or even nothing to offer any reasonable newspaper?

If not, go find a newpaper. Publish your damn testimonials. Sherdog is not the place and frankly, I think that any reasonable person would say you're a liar on these points.

I am a pretty reasonable person, and given the way the Church of Scientology has attacked people in the past, and the nature of unburdening oneself, I think Will comes across as entirely legit. I would certainly say that he believes what he is saying.

I hate to break it to you, but what he is saying is not scandalous. Like a placebo, Scientology makes some people feel good, but has documented methods and a history of outrageous exploitation that are hardly news to anyone who has educated themselves on the history. I suggest to anyone interested in the subject to read "A Piece of Blue Sky" - readable online here: A Piece Of Blue Sky - Scientology, Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed

Will is certainly looking at least as neutral and balanced as you are. He's not attacking you or anyone else (even Scientologists on here) - a lesson you could learn from. I would remind you that he is emotionally involved in the subject, which he has been abundantly up-front about, and yet he is still remarkably even-tempered about things. If he has some contact with others that are going through the same thing, I don't think that discredits his points, which are (after all) his own experiences.
 
I am a pretty reasonable person, and given the way the Church of Scientology has attacked people in the past, and the nature of unburdening oneself, I think Will comes across as entirely legit. I would certainly say that he believes what he is saying.

I don't doubt that a man can fool one rather easily on a message board. His act doesn't show signs that it is not merely just that, an act, by being well written or convincing. Any decent lie would be such, and I think his associations lend one to belief that it is a lie.

I hate to break it to you, but what he is saying is not scandalous. Like a placebo, Scientology makes some people feel good, but has documented methods and a history of outrageous exploitation that are hardly news to anyone who has educated themselves on the history. I suggest to anyone interested in the subject to read "A Piece of Blue Sky" - readable online here: A Piece Of Blue Sky - Scientology, Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed

I have actually read some of these articles. There are abuses in the CoS, certainly. Or rather - people let themselves listen to garbage by certain cultishly minded people. If your interaction with scientology begins and ends with Dinaetics, or any other reasoable way of approaching the beliefs of L. Ron Hubbard, I am sure that they would not have as big of a problem. One has to question whether these people are not simply weak minded slaves. Who listens to people who make you run everywhere?

Moreover, once again: If he wants to promote this stuff for real, why not the newspapers? They are surely eating this up.

Will is certainly looking at least as neutral and balanced as you are. He's not attacking you or anyone else (even Scientologists on here) - a lesson you could learn from. I would remind you that he is emotionally involved in the subject, which he has been abundantly up-front about, and yet he is still remarkably even-tempered about things. If he has some contact with others that are going through the same thing, I don't think that discredits his points, which are (after all) his own experiences.

I should like to note that I do respect the effort you're personally taking in reply to this. I can tell you're quite even headed about this. Thank you. HOwever, do tell me this:

Do you not think it is utterly destructive to associate onself with the scumbags on 4chan?
 
Reasons for 4chan being the way it is:
1. Plenty of people go there, a chunk of Anonymous is bound to be sick.
2. There are few moderators compared to the large amounts of posts.
3. There is no registration system, only Anonymous.

Good things about 4chan:

1. Child porn is against the sites rules (one of the exceptions to the there are no rules sections).
2. They are against the CoS.
3. Some of the jokes are funny.

That being said, I've only been to 4chan once to see what was up and I'm never going back...not my cup of tea. There are a lot of serious crimes committed by CoS. As for newspapers...I think he signed a agreement when he left or something....I've been following awhile so its hard to remember near the beginning.

Great thread btw!
 
I'm actually reading Dianetics on and off. I am interested in the source of the beliefs which seem to have helped a lot of people out and made them succesful.

So far nothing has been really out of the normal.

So what did you think DrSD?
Does LRH actually have anything to offer, other than pure exploitation?
 
I just stayed up for the past hour and some minutes reading every post.

Fucking crazy story.

Good luck man.
 
@DSD:

While you criticize Anonymous for their titular practices, TS has posted some post protest rally YouTube videos entirely sans mask (assuming he even bothered to wear one at the protest), not to mention he has already posted his address in this thread. With both an image of his supposed face and his supposed address, you can verify whether or not he is hiding behind Sherdog, the internet, whatever way it is you think he is hiding, should you wish. Move is yours on that one honestly.

I believe TS has already stated that Sherdog is one of the first groups of people to which he has confessed his experience and that finding the courage to do so is quite embarrassing. He is spreading his message in the way and at the rate that he feels is best. Earlier in the thread he mentioned several times that he wishes to eventually write a book, perhaps the reason why he has not yet fed his story to the newspapers?

Ultimately it's up to you whether or not you believe him, but what would it take to do so?
 
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