I’m so sad we never got rumble vs potan

[Edward Henry Greb]

A few things in life are certain. One is that Poatan would NOT be a champion in the era of prime Jones and Cormier at LHW when Rumble fought. So what you said isn't a knock on Rumble. He'd win the belt in any other era. I don't know how long Rumble would keep the belt, but he'd win it at some point in the current era, back when Chuck/Tito were in their primes, etc.

Cormier and Jones both had iron chins and MUCH better wrestling than anyone Poatan has faced. I mean he got taken down by bird leg Izzy. And Rumble would KO the likes of Hill and wildman Jiri at least as fast as Poatan did.

I have a BA degree in philosophy, have studied quantum modular logic, and your post is retarded.

Nothing about your mental masturbation is "certain" ...

/ Rebuttal

 

[mkt]

I have a BA degree in philosophy, have studied quantum modular logic, and your post is retarded.

Nothing about your mental masturbation is "certain" ...

/ Rebuttal

I have a STEM degree and a master's in another field, and neither have anything to do with this topic.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

I have a STEM degree and a master's in another field, and neither have anything to do with this topic.

Yeah whatever.

Nice evasion of the fact your post contained NOTHING certain, contrary to your posit.

And, BTW, Philosophy has to do with precise dialogue + logical and truthful argumentation (and holding both to a standard) ... which has everything to do with every topic that can possibly be discussed.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

You mean in a grand total of two efforts against the same fighter, a fighter who posed a very different stylistic challenge to Poatan and who many would also pick to defeat Pereira in their respective primes?

No, that's not what I mean.

What even is this? Muhammad Ali is dead and gone, too, but I'd still pick him in his prime to beat Dillian Whyte.

You digress into the absurd, and unrelated, to keep running your mouth.

Irrelevant. Different stylistic challenges, different time periods, different fighters.

Okay, fair enough.

Yours is the juvenile idolatry of a man who rose to the top of two shallow divisions against match-ups that were largely favorable for him, yet you accuse Johnson of being the only one who didn't achieve anything of note. You've yet to actually address any of my points regarding how they match up, but would rather hide behind Pereira's belts as if he could carry them into the cage and use them as a shield to block Anthony's punches or something.

You seem to forget, IDIOT, than Anthony "Rumble" Johnson started out as A WELTERWEIGHT: a 6'2", 170-lb fighter (2006 - 2011), where he fought the majority of his prime career.

Johnson only fought as a MW twice (2012), where he lost to Vitor Belfort, then decisioned the nobody, David Branch.

Johnson then began his LHW debut in 2014, eight years after he turned pro, where he fought his last 14 fights, winning 12 (10 decisions), losing 2 (both to Cormier), is because you this case to — except Cormier — to whom he lost twice.

Johnson beat the likes of Jimmi Branch, Mike Kyle, Phil Davis.

Except you don't actually believe your own bullshit, or if you do you're a victim of your own cognitive dissonance. Here, let me help you:

Just because you are an idiot in this case, doesn't mean you can't say something intelligent on another case. Does this need explanation?

Thank you for quoting me. The fact you quote me as "a source of light" (when I agree with you), and then try to discredit me (when I don't), indicates a level of narcissism seldom seen.

That's me stating that I believe Gane would narrowly beat Alex if the two would ever met up at Heavyweight. Literally every argument you've made about Johnson can also be applied to Ciryl (except he's not "dead and gone"). Ciryl has tried and failed multiple times to become UFC Champion, in somewhat embarrassing fashion at times. Some have accused him of ducking challenges and lacking mental fortitude. He is, stylistically speaking, a better match-up for Alex on paper. Hasn't faced or beaten the same level of competition as either man.


Yet... you agreed with me. You complimented me on my take.

Oops.

Yes, idiot, see above.

Just because you have an idiot-take in this discussion, doesn't mean you can't get something right on another.

Even a broken clock is "right" 2x per day.

Ah yes, the insurance claims investigator who has scars from his many knife fights and regularly faces danger headfirst in his thrilling life of adventure. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten. I know you're full of shit because anyone who had actually seen and done half of that would have hopefully developed some semblance of humility. He certainly wouldn't feel the need to mock professional fighters (especially those who are dead and gone) on a daily basis or try and dox himself whenever people on a karate forum make him angry. I deal with actual hard men and killers on a daily basis and the legitimate ones don't act like man-children the way you do every time you vomit all over your keyboard.

Interesting that you remember other posts of mine, some of my background, etc. This only means I have left an impression on you.

I wish I could return the favor, but you have made no such impression on me. Since you know my own, what is your profession where you deal with "actual hard men and killers" on a daily basis? (Seems like you're either working in gay porn or in a prison.)

I have seen and done more than you can possibly imagine. This isn't a "karate forum"; it's an MMA forum, mostly. MMA is a passion of mine. Sometimes I get passionate — and "humility" is a trait for men who in broken.

That said, I am not mocking Anthony "Rumble" Johnson; he is one of my preferred fighters to watch, but I am not disillusioned as to either his ability or accomplishments..
More precisely, I am just not stupid enough to believe that is 6'2" welterweight, who failed to become Champion, would beat a 6'4" Middleweight — who became a multi-defending, devastating MIDDLEWEIGHT KO artist himself, in Glory Kickboxing, moving up and becoming Champion at LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT ... and who then proceeded to the same thing in the UFC.

Obviously, none of us will ever know what would happen between the two of them, as the former is dead.

But if you think Alex Pereira is a "scared coward," like Gustafsson (another non-Champion) conducted himself against Jones, then you have your head up your ass.

IMO, Alex Pereira would snipe and decimate the tiny "Rumble" Johnson's legs, pick him apart from a distance, and knock him TF out within 2 to 3 rounds.

If you actually paid attention to Johnson's fights, he too is gun shy against big punchers.

Alex is gun shy against no one.

Have a great day.

 

[mkt]

Yeah whatever.

Nice evasion of the fact your post contained NOTHING certain, contrary to your posit.

And, BTW, Philosophy has to do with precise dialogue + logical and truthful argumentation (and holding both to a standard) ... which has everything to do with every topic that can possibly be discussed.

Argumentation includes literary devices like hyperbole, which I used. All good debaters use some literary devices, figures of speech, etc. Yes, it's not 100% certain that Poatan couldn't win the title in the Jones/Cormier era, but it's very unlikely. The fact you're trying to apply some scientific, black/white, 100% pure standard shows how weak your position is.

I'm done. Have the last word if it comforts your fragile ego.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Yes, it's not 100% certain that Poatan couldn't win the title in the Jones/Cormier era.

I refute your idiotic original post, with your own ultimate admission.

 

[Safton]

No, that's not what I mean.

You say this, yet refuse to expound upon your actual point... as if you ever had one.

You digress into the absurd, and unrelated, to keep running your mouth.

The absurd and unrelated, like accusing a fighter of being dead as being a point against them in an argument regarding them in their respective prime? That sort of absurd and unrelated?

You seem to forget, IDIOT, than Anthony "Rumble" Johnson started out as A WELTERWEIGHT: a 6'2", 170-lb fighter (2006 - 2011), where he fought the majority of his prime career.

Johnson only fought as a MW twice (2012), where he lost to Vitor Belfort, then decisioned the nobody, David Branch.

I forget no such thing, but anyone who had the understanding of MMA that you profess to acknowledges that the Rumble who fought at these lower weights was doing so at great cost to his body and performance and thus didn't represent the "Prime Rumble" this conversation is about.

You are running your mouth about the absurd and unrelated, in other words.

Johnson then began his LHW debut in 2014, eight years after he turned pro, where he fought his last 14 fights, winning 12 (10 decisions), losing 2 (both to Cormier), is because you this case to — except Cormier — to whom he lost twice.

Johnson beat the likes of Jimmi Branch, Mike Kyle, Phil Davis.

Hey, look, he can use Wikipedia. Though I'm not sure how you came to the "10 Decisions" conclusion. AJ didn't have 10 bouts that went to the cards in his entire career, much less after his LHW debut.

Phil Davis is a solid win and the names you're looking for are Jimi Manuwa and David Branch... sort of ruins your credibility when you invent fake fighters for the resume of the guy you're shitting on whilst also ignoring his signature wins like Glover, Alex, Bader, etc. all of which were coming off wins at the time.

Just because you are an idiot in this case, doesn't mean you can't say something intelligent on another case. Does this need explanation?

Thank you for quoting me. The fact you quote me as "a source of light" (when I agree with you), and then try to discredit me (when I don't), indicates a level of narcissism seldom seen.


Yes, idiot, see above.

Just because you have an idiot-take in this discussion, doesn't mean you can't get something right on another.

Even a broken clock is "right" 2x per day.

*yawn*

So you don't actually have an explanation for this, then? You wholeheartedly acknowledge that you've been caught in your own cognitive dissonance wherein your sole, core arguments you've made against Rumble could also be applied to the guy that you agreed with me could beat Alex? You have no retort other than to screech like a child who didn't get his way and call me an idiot or broken clock or what have you?

OK, cool. Concession accepted!

Interesting that you remember other posts of mine, some of my background, etc. This only means I have left an impression on you.

The really absurd shit on Sherdog tends to leave a lasting impression and you fall firmly in that niche.

I wish I could return the favor, but you have made no such impression on me. Since you know my own, what is your profession where you deal with "actual hard men and killers" on a daily basis? (Seems like you're either working in gay porn or in a prison.)

I work at a county jail and federal holding facility... but your first suggestion being gay porn suggests either a hope to insult me or a deep-seated desire. I don't care either way, but know that you are among kindred spirits. We all like the spectacle of watching men in their underwear here, after all.

I have seen and done more than you can possibly imagine. This isn't a "karate forum"; it's an MMA forum, mostly. MMA is a passion of mine. Sometimes I get passionate — and "humility" is a trait for men who in broken.

Why am I not surprised that you'd be triggered by one of the forum's oldest running jokes...

And I think we all get passionate about the sport or else we wouldn't be here. Passion needn't require you to actively denigrate the personal & professional integrity of competitors who you just so happen to not care for as much as your personal hero in Alex. It is possible to root for Poatan and back him and argue his cause without shitting on the heads of almost any fighter who gets mentioned in his vicinity. These two things are not mutually inclusive, yet you scarcely seem to understand that.

That said, I am not mocking Anthony "Rumble" Johnson; he is one of my preferred fighters to watch, but I am not disillusioned as to either his ability or accomplishments..
More precisely, I am just not stupid enough to believe that is 6'2" welterweight, who failed to become Champion, would beat a 6'4" Middleweight — who became a multi-defending, devastating MIDDLEWEIGHT KO artist himself, in Glory Kickboxing, moving up and becoming Champion at LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT ... and who then proceeded to the same thing in the UFC.

Again, Johnson's time as a Welterweight was an ill-advised career move where he was actively fighting his own body as much as his opponent. He is not a "real" Welterweight despite somehow making that limit and he acknowledged this later in his career.

Poatan's kickboxing accolades and UFC titles, impressive as they are and as much as they make him a shoo-in for HoF status and P4P combat sports GOAT status... do not inherently guarantee him a victory against others who don't share his accolades. Different levels of competition and styles make fights. Until he can figure out to fashion all those belts into a suit of armor and wear it into the cage, I know who I would favor.

Obviously, none of us will ever know what would happen between the two of them, as the former is dead.

But if you think Alex Pereira is a "scared coward," like Gustafsson (another non-Champion) conducted himself against Jones, then you have your head up your ass.

Again just throwing shit at the wall as a blatant strawman. I never said anything of the sort and hadn't even mentioned Gus until now...

IMO, Alex Pereira would snipe and decimate the tiny "Rumble" Johnson's legs, pick him apart from a distance, and knock him TF out within 2 to 3 rounds.

Finally, something resembling a stylistic argument instead of "muh belts" and "lol Crumble never became champ".

This could very well happen -- Johnson never faced as dangerous a kicker as Pereira... but I believe that he could and would ground Poatan at will if/when it became an issue and/or throw devastating right hands over the top to deter said kicks.

If you actually paid attention to Johnson's fights, he too is gun shy against big punchers.

Alex is gun shy against no one.

Have a great day.

He fought and KO'd plenty of dangerous strikers, including at 205... and has shown a willingness to wrestle against them. Poatan has not faced someone who combines Johnson's durability, KO power, speed, and takedown threat into one package yet.

Sure, we'll never know what would have happened... but I know who I'd pick. I have a hard time seeing Johnson struggle with Khalil the same way Poatan initially did.

 

[Question]

Glover is no striker, so it's a ridiculous comparison.

Gus was absolutely terrified of Rumble — Poatan has no fear — so it's another ridiculous comparison.

Apples and oranges, my friend.

Sounds like excuses to me, Rumble KO'd one of Pereira's best guys with ease, that's the reality
Pereira wouldn't be champion in that era either with guys like Jones and DC around, dude was getting taking down by fighters such as Jan Błachowicz and almost lost that decision

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

You say this, yet refuse to expound upon your actual point... as if you ever had one.

I didn't refuse anything. Upon which point would you like me to expound?

The absurd and unrelated, like accusing a fighter of being dead as being a point against them in an argument regarding them in their respective prime? That sort of absurd and unrelated?

You're a jackoff.

My point is pretty clear: Rumble is a NON- (never-was) Champion IN ANY DIVISION ... and a 6'2" (failed) WELTERWEIGHT ... (who then failed MW ... and then failed LHW).

You thinking he could actually beat a 6'4" CHAMPION MIDDLEWEIGHT (who succeeded the same level across TWO platforms) ... who then CHAMPIONED AGAIN @ LHW (again, across TWO platforms) ... makes you DAFT AF.

The mentality to be A WINNER AND CHAMPION ... is something (like w/ Justin Gaethje) always eluded Anthony "Rumble" Johnson.

Johnson was a big puncher, and cool guy, but he was NOT "Champion Material" ... in ANY weight class he tried ... while Alex Pereira ALWAYS BECOMES Champion ... in EVERY weight class he tries.

You are a loser, so you can't fathom a winner's mental fortitude as "a thing" ... but it is a very important thing ... THE most important.

I forget no such thing, but anyone who had the understanding of MMA that you profess to acknowledges that the Rumble who fought at these lower weights was doing so at great cost to his body and performance and thus didn't represent the "Prime Rumble" this conversation is about.

You are running your mouth about the absurd and unrelated, in other words.

Shut up, idiot.

You babble on, incessantly, in the defense of "a big puncher" ... who NEVER ONCE could become Champion ... EVER ... in ANY division ... in an 11-year career.

Hey, look, he can use Wikipedia. Though I'm not sure how you came to the "10 Decisions" conclusion. AJ didn't have 10 bouts that went to the cards in his entire career, much less after his LHW debut.

Phil Davis is a solid win and the names you're looking for are Jimi Manuwa and David Branch... sort of ruins your credibility when you invent fake fighters for the resume of the guy you're shitting on whilst also ignoring his signature wins like Glover, Alex, Bader, etc. all of which were coming off wins at the time.

Apparently, so can you.

Trouble is, you're not able to fathom that your idol is a contender-level palooka, and NOT Champion material.

*yawn*

So you don't actually have an explanation for this, then? You wholeheartedly acknowledge that you've been caught in your own cognitive dissonance wherein your sole, core arguments you've made against Rumble could also be applied to the guy that you agreed with me could beat Alex? You have no retort other than to screech like a child who didn't get his way and call me an idiot or broken clock or what have you?

OK, cool. Concession accepted!

You clearly have a lot of time on your hands, but no real intelligence to use it wisely.

The really absurd shit on Sherdog tends to leave a lasting impression and you fall firmly in that niche.

I am backing a Champion, you are backing a loser (every time), and yet "you" think you are arguing "the solid point" ... fogging hilarious.

I work at a county jail and federal holding facility... but your first suggestion being gay porn suggests either a hope to insult me or a deep-seated desire. I don't care either way, but know that you are among kindred spirits. We all like the spectacle of watching men in their underwear here, after all.

Um, no.

First of all, if you work in a county jail, it means your education level isn't good.

Second, your other conclusion is as daft as your conclusions about the Champion-effort, consistent loser, Rumble.

Why am I not surprised that you'd be triggered by one of the forum's oldest running jokes...

And I think we all get passionate about the sport or else we wouldn't be here. Passion needn't require you to actively denigrate the personal & professional integrity of competitors who you just so happen to not care for as much as your personal hero in Alex. It is possible to root for Poatan and back him and argue his cause without shitting on the heads of almost any fighter who gets mentioned in his vicinity. These two things are not mutually inclusive, yet you scarcely seem to understand that.

Huh? Shut up idiot. You babble about nothing, like a woman. Your career choice and revelations underscore this fact.

Again, Johnson's time as a Welterweight was an ill-advised career move where he was actively fighting his own body as much as his opponent. He is not a "real" Welterweight despite somehow making that limit and he acknowledged this later in his career.

Rumble failed at every weight class he tried.

Pereira became Champion at every weight class he tried.

The former is a decent fighter, who lacked the "intangibles" + professionalism EVER to achieve his Champion goals, not even once.

The latter is AN ELITE competitor who had the "intangibles + professionalism ALWAYS to achieve his Champion goals, EVERY TIME HE TRIED.

Poatan's kickboxing accolades and UFC titles, impressive as they are and as much as they make him a shoo-in for HoF status and P4P combat sports GOAT status... do not inherently guarantee him a victory against others who don't share his accolades. Different levels of competition and styles make fights. Until he can figure out to fashion all those belts into a suit of armor and wear it into the cage, I know who I would favor.

Who gives AF who "you" would favor, as (by your posts) you favor consistent losers at the Championship level?

Again just throwing shit at the wall as a blatant strawman. I never said anything of the sort and hadn't even mentioned Gus until now...

Finally, something resembling a stylistic argument instead of "muh belts" and "lol Crumble never became champ".

This could very well happen -- Johnson never faced as dangerous a kicker as Pereira... but I believe that he could and would ground Poatan at will if/when it became an issue and/or throw devastating right hands over the top to deter said kicks.

I don't care about "your beliefs" ... you believe in consistent losers at the Championship level (a smaller loser, at that).

I believe in the consistent winner (the bigger, stronger, more accomplished winner).

At the end of the day, it's a debate that will never be resolved.

He fought and KO'd plenty of dangerous strikers, including at 205... and has shown a willingness to wrestle against them. Poatan has not faced someone who combines Johnson's durability, KO power, speed, and takedown threat into one package yet.

Johnson never faced a Champion killer ANF puncher ... who was bigger than he is ... who had better reach ... with ZERO fear ... **AND** a skillset beyond anything he has ever faced as a striker.

Sure, we'll never know what would have happened... but I know who I'd pick. I have a hard time seeing Johnson struggle with Khalil the same way Poatan initially did.

We agree, we will never know what would have happened ... and I could give two shits about who "you" would have picked.

You continuously refer to "hard men" and "hard times" ... and you gave your proclivities away earlier.

That said, Poatan was sick and almost pulled out of the fight with Rountree. He was coughing between rounds (go look at the tape).

The truth is, Alex masterfully "held back," analyzed, chipped-away, and gradually-reduced the early threat of Rountree ... and then absolutely destroyed him.

It was a literal Master Class ... and if you couldn't see this, then you triple-down on the fact you are blind.

My last response ... rail-on in your obsession.

 

[Safton]

I didn't refuse anything. Upon which point would you like me to expound?

How Johnson's lack of title wins relative to Pereira's is supposed to be proof positive that he would lose to Alex when they faced wildly different challenges in wildly different contexts for a start.

You're a jackoff.

Thanks bud, I think you're pretty swell, too!

My point is pretty clear: Rumble is a NON- (never-was) Champion IN ANY DIVISION ... and a 6'2" (failed) WELTERWEIGHT ... (who then failed MW ... and then failed LHW).

Which has bearings on arguments of legacy, NOT how the two men stack up inside the cage.

You thinking he could actually beat a 6'4" CHAMPION MIDDLEWEIGHT (who succeeded the same level across TWO platforms) ... who then CHAMPIONED AGAIN @ LHW (again, across TWO platforms) ... makes you DAFT AF.

Do you think this is a video game where earning a belt gives you a +10 to all of your attributes across the board? This argument is juvenile and asinine and buys you no yams with me. Daft, indeed.

The mentality to be A WINNER AND CHAMPION ... is something (like w/ Justin Gaethje) always eluded Anthony "Rumble" Johnson.

Or... alternatively... he spent too long fighting in the wrong divisions and when he finally found the right one, he had the misfortune of running into one of the sport's other double champs and P4P greats at a time when the talent pool in said division was arguably at its deepest.

Johnson was a big puncher, and cool guy, but he was NOT "Champion Material" ... in ANY weight class he tried ... while Alex Pereira ALWAYS BECOMES Champion ... in EVERY weight class he tries.

See above.

How very convenient that Alex became champ of two divisions that are, right now, considered amongst the shallowest in the sport. No one is saying he isn't a remarkable talent or a great fighter, but the guy's UFC run is a product of the times along with some productive matchmaking.

You are a loser, so you can't fathom a winner's mental fortitude as "a thing" ... but it is a very important thing ... THE most important.

This is just inane babble. Luke Rockhold conceived and believed in himself, probably considered himself quite the winner and rightfully so.

Didn't help him.

Shut up, idiot.

You babble on, incessantly, in the defense of "a big puncher" ... who NEVER ONCE could become Champion ... EVER ... in ANY division ... in an 11-year career.

*yawn* No thanks!

So do you have an additional, real argument or are you just going to keep the broken record routine going?

Trouble is, you're not able to fathom that your idol is a contender-level palooka, and NOT Champion material.

My "idol"?

This is your problem. You inherently take personal affront to any perceived insult against your lord & savior Alex when in fact I have already acknowledged him as P4P combat sports GOAT... but because I have the audacity to pick against him, I must be some AJ worshiper who hates Pereira and everything he stands for?

Yikes.

You clearly have a lot of time on your hands, but no real intelligence to use it wisely.

Stop projecting.

I am backing a Champion, you are backing a loser (every time), and yet "you" think you are arguing "the solid point" ... fogging hilarious.

*yawn*

You yourself backed a "loser" in Gane against your champ, too... something you've yet to address. But I can tell cognitive dissonance is something you don't understand yet is a common bedfellow of yours.

Um, no.

Um, yes! This is fun!

First of all, if you work in a county jail, it means your education level isn't good.

Oh? How so? I mean my degree is nothing special, but admittedly not all of us can aspire to such heights as being a knife-fighting, rope-swinging, world-swinging insurance claims investigator.

Second, your other conclusion is as daft as your conclusions about the Champion-effort, consistent loser, Rumble.

You seem very defensive...

Huh? Shut up idiot. You babble about nothing, like a woman. Your career choice and revelations underscore this fact.

Why am I not surprised you'd add sexism to the angry lonely loser bingo card?

My career choice clearly has you in a tizzy. Are you jealous? Don't worry, we're hiring! Assuming you're not one of the local drunks that ends up in here on the regular which I'm not entirely convinced of given your propensity for ranting into the ether.

Rumble failed at every weight class he tried.

Pereira became Champion at every weight class he tried.

Already addressed this. *yawn*

The former is a decent fighter, who lacked the "intangibles" + professionalism EVER to achieve his Champion goals, not even once.

The latter is AN ELITE competitor who had the "intangibles + professionalism ALWAYS to achieve his Champion goals, EVERY TIME HE TRIED.

And this...

Who gives AF who "you" would favor, as (by your posts) you favor consistent losers at the Championship level?

Well, seeing as how you are incapable of making anything resembling a cogent counterargument beyond "muh champion winner" and have actually seen fit to praise my takes in the past... apparently you would.

I don't care about "your beliefs" ... you believe in consistent losers at the Championship level (a smaller loser, at that).

Oh but you do! You're just a very angry man about this particular instance because you've been caught contradicting yourself and can't explain how or why your arguments work one way and not the other.

I believe in the consistent winner (the bigger, stronger, more accomplished winner).

At the end of the day, it's a debate that will never be resolved.

It's resolved, just not in a way you like and I'm sure you'll continue grumbling like the bitter old man that you are.

Johnson never faced a Champion killer ANF puncher ... who was bigger than he is ... who had better reach ... with ZERO fear ... **AND** a skillset beyond anything he has ever faced as a striker.

Coincidentally Pereira never faced a monstrous puncher with one-shot-KO power, an active lead leg, absurd athleticism & hand speed, who also brings the ability and willingness to shoot and complete takedowns on a whim whilst being very durable.

We agree, we will never know what would have happened ... and I could give two shits about who "you" would have picked.

Except when you do.

You continuously refer to "hard men" and "hard times" ... and you gave your proclivities away earlier.

Again with the projection...

That said, Poatan was sick and almost pulled out of the fight with Rountree. He was coughing between rounds (go look at the tape).

How convenient!

The truth is, Alex masterfully "held back," analyzed, chipped-away, and gradually-reduced the early threat of Rountree ... and then absolutely destroyed him.

It was a literal Master Class ... and if you couldn't see this, then you triple-down on the fact you are blind.

My last response ... rail-on in your obsession.

Pereira was a massive favorite over a guy who had never achieved a signature win during his time in the UFC. A pure striker who would indulge him in his wheelhouse and was visibly much smaller. Stylistically, it had all the hallmarks of a lay-up.

I give Pereira credit for staying composed under adversity and weathering the early storm to make that finish happen, but if you call that a flawless master class you're out of your mind.

Also, the idea of you accusing absolutely anyone on Sherdog of having an obsession is -- perhaps -- the most hilarious show of lacking self-awareness I've seen in my life. Bar none.

 

[BowserJr]

Who ever lands at least 50% first wins