Huge difference between Avengers and Justice League

[benebox]

I luckily haven't read any comics to compare it to but I would re-watch Watchmen again over any of the recent Marvel films. How could he go from that to Jestice league is beyond me.

 

[James T. Kirk]

No one cared about the Avengers before the movies. Marvel just made better movies period and a lot more of them. DC only has 4 movies in their movie universe and only 1 of them was good.

Marvel can take obscure characters like Ant Man and GOTG and make them fan favorites. DC couldn't even make a decent Batman v. Superman movie, which should've been the most epic crossover in comic book movie history.

Uh, 5 movies.

I think Snyder's versions of Nite Owl and Adrian Veidt are bland with no real weight behind them. And the very concise amount of source material was there for him to use. That should have been a warning sign to anybody. 300 is like what I said about Watchmen. Snyder flipped through the comic, and just wanted to recreate some images he saw. And add a lot of mutants and Spartans doing individual twirly sword fighting.

By tone I mean there's a lot of levity in Marvel movies. They use it to balance heavier dramatic parts. If you look at the marvel director lineup, a lot of them are comedic directors. Early on they tried out other types of directors but the comedy guys won out.

If you can't get Nite Owl and Veidt then you have no business trying to make Superman and Batman more than charicatures. Because to understand why there's no vicious comeuppance beating of Veidt by Nite Owl at the end requires one to actually understand what they're reading. The Comedian scenes are lifted from the comic and they're fairly dramatic or enticing on face value.

That's the other point I made, planning. Marvel diligently released movies so they could have a measured and built up expansion over time. With DC it was Superman. And then the next movie is Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. And it turned out DC execs just wanted bonuses so they were rushing things. They got the tone wrong and they didn't plan right.

Fixed.

I luckily haven't read any comics to compare it to but I would re-watch Watchmen again over any of the recent Marvel films. How could he go from that to Jestice league is beyond me.

Why luckily?

 

[CodeBreaker]

Iron man was the heart and soul of this MCU

 

[benebox]

Why luckily?

I was able to watch it with a fresh pair of eyes. I often find myself disliking films and thier changes after reading the orginal content.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Of course they are. They liked what Snyder did to Watchmen, validated him, and then he did it to Superman and Batman. Nobody should be surprised about how crappy the DCCU is if they were paying attention to what was going on with Watchmen the movie.

He didn't really do the same thing though did he? he was suited to making one kind of film which they liked but not another which they did not. These people didn't choose him to direct any of the DC films, that was obviously down to the studio.

 

[Magooglie]

He didn't really do the same thing though did he? he was suited to making one kind of film which they liked but not another which they did not. These people didn't choose him to direct any of the DC films, that was obviously down to the studio.

Watchmen: "Arghh! *Dark and moody* Arghh! *Fist Fight* Arghh *Sad face emoticon*!
DCCU: "Arghh! *Dark and moody* Arghh! *Fist Fight* Arghh *Sad face emoticon*!

That's the Snyder playbook. The good parts of Watchmen are lifted from the comic. And as I said, those people that liked the bad parts of Watchmen validated his style of film making. The studio totally deserves blame too, but if the fans said "The changes in Watchmen are hackey as hell" they might have gone "Let's not build our movie universe on this type of tone with this guy."

 

[KnightTemplar]

Iron man was the heart and soul of this MCU

No RDJ, no MCU