How to get women.

[45ACP]

Fair enough man. I think that from my perspective it's a bit different though. The reason I suggest doing it in public is to be bold and confident and show her that you're not concerned with the opinions of others. I don't believe I've ever offended a girl by trying to kiss her, even when she didn't actually let me do it. Definitely not disagreeing with you though, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Totally agree about letting your intentions be known too.

I have a feeling a first kiss in public won't work for every girl, but for the ones it will work on it might be almost all you need.

This girl I'm seeing now seems to love doing shit in public. But I got that feeling from her from the start and just went for it, and it's totally worked out so far.

But I think she's a bit crazy, so there's that, lol.

 

[45ACP]

Yeah I'm the same way. Seems like what you're doing is really working. Just try to stay out of your own way and you'll be fine. Just don't be the first one to try to advance any part of the relationship, they dont seem to like that. Don't say I love you or mention getting serious or anything like that imo.

Dude, I'd ask her to marry me tomorrow if I thought she might say yes, lol.

But you're totally right. As hard as it is, I'm waiting for her to be the one to move things forward.

EDIT: She always dresses really nice but was wearing knee-high socks tonight hidden under her boots that said "I <3 Elmo" and showed them to me. So I told her I thought she'd look great in nothing but the socks and she said she'd model them for me sometime. How can I not be in love? lol

My god I can't get over how awesome this chick is.

 

[Mike]

Dude, I'd ask her to marry me tomorrow if I thought she might say yes, lol.

But you're totally right. As hard as it is, I'm waiting for her to be the one to move things forward.

EDIT: She always dresses really nice but was wearing knee-high socks tonight hidden under her boots that said "I <3 Elmo" and showed them to me. So I told her I thought she'd look great in nothing but the socks and she said she'd model them for me sometime. How can I not be in love? lol

My god I can't get over how awesome this chick is.

Last time I had a girl like this I just couldn't control my emotions and was telling her I loved her after a week. Was the first one suggesting moving in etc. She went along, but my broscience feeling is doing that kind of thing lowers your value in their eyes, they know you need them. However this could only apply to crazy girls, since that's all I ever date.

 

[Pugilistic]

I just don't like people who equate utilizing some charlatan tactics and then trying to pass it off as trying to be social. Most of the guys posting in this thread about their "game" really mean to say they are trying to con women into bed, but just being cute about it. I'd respect someone a lot more who went 5 years getting friendzoned who was being him self in every situation. Rather than some douche who spits some jargon, fucking a chick, then spitting them to the curb. All the while they'll tell you, "oh women love it", "they're just as horny as us, even more so", "you gotta be forceful, direct, and confident". I deal with inmates all day, all I hear is a bunch of weak ass street hustle. You want advice, be yourself, and a good person. All this behavior isn't really reflective of ethical and moral men.

I'm not a huge fan of "strategizing" human interaction, including picking up girls and my approach is to be just direct and honest to someone I am interested in. I don't fully agree with all the details the OP suggests but I don't see what the problem with a guy sleeping with a consenting woman. I don't see where the "con" is in that. I am assuming nobody here is suggesting that guys lie or mislead women into having sex. Believe it or not, there are plenty of women who prefer to have sex casually without entering a relationship. There were times where I wanted more emotional connection than the woman.

 

[45ACP]

Jesus, she wants to hang out again tonight.

I don't want this thing moving super fast and then fizzling out all of a sudden like my last relationship did. We actually had a conversation about that last night and she said she wanted to be careful of it as well.

I'd really really love to see her again but I'm wondering if I should just tell her I have plans or someshit tonight. Especially since we already have plans for tomorrow night and the 4th.

Last chick I was with we were both professing our love for each other within a week and I basically moved in with her the week after that. We spent almost every second with each other for 4 months straight before she suddenly just decided she wasn't in love with me anymore and ended things.

Still pisses me off to think about, especially since when we first got together she made me agree that if either of our feelings ever started to change we'd do something to try to rekindle things. Then she goes and drops me like a hot potato out of the blue.

Man chicks are fucking weird.

 

[Real_Magi]

Jesus, she wants to hang out again tonight.

I don't want this thing moving super fast and then fizzling out all of a sudden like my last relationship did. We actually had a conversation about that last night and she said she wanted to be careful of it as well.

I'd really really love to see her again but I'm wondering if I should just tell her I have plans or someshit tonight. Especially since we already have plans for tomorrow night and the 4th.

Last chick I was with we were both professing our love for each other within a week and I basically moved in with her the week after that. We spent almost every second with each other for 4 months straight before she suddenly just decided she wasn't in love with me anymore and ended things.

Still pisses me off to think about, especially since when we first got together she made me agree that if either of our feelings ever started to change we'd do something to try to rekindle things. Then she goes and drops me like a hot potato out of the blue.

Man chicks are fucking weird.

Chicks are definitely weird. Lol, if there is no other universal truth in all of existence, chicks are definitely weird.

You could definitely just pretend like you have plans, which could potentially be a good thing. At this point it sounds like you know exactly what's going on and you've learned form past mistakes, which is the biggest thing (imo) when doing just about anything in life -- just keeping past situations in mind to influence current ones.

You mentioned earlier that she's kind of crazy, but everyone is a little crazy. As long as your crazy and her crazy mesh well, what more could you ask for? I do think that if you keep in mind that you don't want to be moving in together or moving too fast that you're probably going to do fine almost no matter what.

I just don't like people who equate utilizing some charlatan tactics and then trying to pass it off as trying to be social. Most of the guys posting in this thread about their "game" really mean to say they are trying to con women into bed, but just being cute about it. I'd respect someone a lot more who went 5 years getting friendzoned who was being him self in every situation. Rather than some douche who spits some jargon, fucking a chick, then spitting them to the curb. All the while they'll tell you, "oh women love it", "they're just as horny as us, even more so", "you gotta be forceful, direct, and confident". I deal with inmates all day, all I hear is a bunch of weak ass street hustle. You want advice, be yourself, and a good person. All this behavior isn't really reflective of ethical and moral men.

Anywho, if you couldn't tell I was joking by my "butt moist" comment, and the fact that I ran a guy out of the thread who came in throwing a shitty weak ass verbal haymaker, then I see why you have trouble with the ferchina.

The entire point of my OP was that you don't have to be a douche to get women and you can be a genuinely nice guy. If that isn't enough to make someone believe my intentions are pure, they obviously want to believe something and will believe it no matter what. The two women who posted in this thread approved of the OP as well.

I have even openly expressed how these women are daughters and sisters just as much as a chick you're attracted to and that they deserve to be treated good. Being open with your intentions and confident enough to create sexual interest isn't treating women badly.

P.S. Got some veterinarian chick's number at the bar after model girl left, lol.

P.P.S. Any one who thinks I'm full of shit: suck it. I choked out a mugger last week and now I'm banging one of the hottest girls on the planet. Deal with it.

You're kicking ass man. Where do you live dude? I'd be down to go chase some tail for a night if we lived in the same area.

 

[IIIIIIII]

Every time there's a thread about women, some sarcastic douche has to chime in about how he only bangs 10s, real men never need help with women, it's pathetic, etc.



You understand that social skills aren't something everyone has right? A lot of people are virgins, only find a girl every 5 years, get friendzoned non stop and don't know why, etc. I don't see what's so bad about giving people like us some friendly advice. Being lonely sucks and it's counter to human nature. You're great with women, cool, good for you. Stop being a douche about it.

good post. threads like these shouldn't be about putting guys down. i'm not a casanova by any stretch of the imagination, and i also seek advice. this place in general should be productive, and about helping others out.

 

[45ACP]

Chicks are definitely weird. Lol, if there is no other universal truth in all of existence, chicks are definitely weird.

You could definitely just pretend like you have plans, which could potentially be a good thing. At this point it sounds like you know exactly what's going on and you've learned form past mistakes, which is the biggest thing (imo) when doing just about anything in life -- just keeping past situations in mind to influence current ones.

You mentioned earlier that she's kind of crazy, but everyone is a little crazy. As long as your crazy and her crazy mesh well, what more could you ask for? I do think that if you keep in mind that you don't want to be moving in together or moving too fast that you're probably going to do fine almost no matter what.

That whole "everything happens for a reason" shit is making a bit of sense to me here. There were some issues with my last chick and I that may have led to problems in the future, but I was so enamored with her and the sparks we had that I was willing to overlook them and had just started trying to convince myself that I could marry her some day despite those issues. And if I would've stayed with her there are a lot of lessons about myself, love and life that I never would've learned.

And of course if we'd have stayed together I wouldn't be with this current chick, who as I've said, is completely awesome. As amazing as my last relationship was, I'm already convinced that this one has the potential to be a million times better. We have even more in common than I did with my ex, and our personalities definitely mesh much better. My ex came from a very wealthy family and had been extremely sheltered and coddled her whole life, which led to a lot of naivety on her part, and feelings of not really being understood on my part, since I come from a dysfunctional blue collar family and have had to work for everything I've ever had.

Plus current chick is way hotter, lol.

The entire point of my OP was that you don't have to be a douche to get women and you can be a genuinely nice guy. If that isn't enough to make someone believe my intentions are pure, they obviously want to believe something and will believe it no matter what. The two women who posted in this thread approved of the OP as well.

I have even openly expressed how these women are daughters and sisters just as much as a chick you're attracted to and that they deserve to be treated good. Being open with your intentions and confident enough to create sexual interest isn't treating women badly.

Fuck that guy dude, don't waste your time. This is all good stuff, confirmed as you said, by not only the women who've posted here, but also the dudes who are appreciating the advice you've given (and using it with success, like me!).

You're kicking ass man. Where do you live dude? I'd be down to go chase some tail for a night if we lived in the same area.

Thanks brother. I live just north of Allentown, PA and work in Philly. Spend a decent amount of time in NJ and NYC as well.

If you're ever near any of those areas definitely hit me up. We can go out chasing tail and beating up muggers, lol.

 

[Mike]

Jesus, she wants to hang out again tonight.

I don't want this thing moving super fast and then fizzling out all of a sudden like my last relationship did. We actually had a conversation about that last night and she said she wanted to be careful of it as well.

I'd really really love to see her again but I'm wondering if I should just tell her I have plans or someshit tonight. Especially since we already have plans for tomorrow night and the 4th.

Last chick I was with we were both professing our love for each other within a week and I basically moved in with her the week after that. We spent almost every second with each other for 4 months straight before she suddenly just decided she wasn't in love with me anymore and ended things.

Still pisses me off to think about, especially since when we first got together she made me agree that if either of our feelings ever started to change we'd do something to try to rekindle things. Then she goes and drops me like a hot potato out of the blue.

Man chicks are fucking weird.

See this is what it was like with my ex-wife. We had this whole when harry met sally kind of awkward friendship. So when we could finally be together it was just this hormonal overload. I love yous in a week. Talking about marriage and kids after two. Married after 3 years. Friend zoned 2 months after marriage.


It made me really wary of moving too quickly based off emotions. I would try to slow it down a bit if you can. Some women have this weird thing where they will encourage you to over commit to them, then dump you if they feel you are too into them. Girls are confusing lol.

 

[Real_Magi]

That whole "everything happens for a reason" shit is making a bit of sense to me here. There were some issues with my last chick and I that may have led to problems in the future, but I was so enamored with her and the sparks we had that I was willing to overlook them and had just started trying to convince myself that I could marry her some day despite those issues. And if I would've stayed with her there are a lot of lessons about myself, love and life that I never would've learned.

And of course if we'd have stayed together I wouldn't be with this current chick, who as I've said, is completely awesome. As amazing as my last relationship was, I'm already convinced that this one has the potential to be a million times better. We have even more in common than I did with my ex, and our personalities definitely mesh much better. My ex came from a very wealthy family and had been extremely sheltered and coddled her whole life, which led to a lot of naivety on her part, and feelings of not really being understood on my part, since I come from a dysfunctional blue collar family and have had to work for everything I've ever had.

I can relate with that big time. The only one of my girlfriends that I still think about and was sure (at the time) that we'd spend the rest of our lives together, was a spoiled brat and my family is also very blue collar. She definitely wasn't from a rich family, but she was the baby of her family (large family too, 6 kids) and her whole family just molly coddled the fuck out of her and gave her anything she wanted. She was also attractive enough that men would just do whatever she wanted.

She was only 19 when we got together, I was 23 at the time, and she struggled with depression that I thought I could pull her out of. But you can't fix people, that just isn't the way it works.

I was so dedicated to our relationship that even though I could clearly see the downward spiral that we were both creating for one another, I was dead set on just sticking it out and making it work. Finally after 2 years of being engaged I broke up with her simply because I could see she wasn't happy, I knew I wasn't, and we hadn't had sex for a couple months, which was really the biggest indicator that it wasn't working. I was starting to be super attracted to other women too.

Even now I have dreams about our relationship. I've had prophetic dreams my whole life, so I take them very seriously. I know some people would call bullshit on that, but it's the truth, and you can explain prophetic dreams in a logical way in a number of ways that I don't want to explain right now, but they've always been a part of my life.

I dreamed that I was sailing away from a gorgeous city surrounded by mountains when we broke up. In the dream I was on a boat and didn't want to leave the city, but a close friend (who was steering the boat) told me not to worry, that I'd return again, but it was best to leave right now. Before we broke up I dreamed that I was with her and was packing her through crowds of different people and all of the people were very trashy, doing drugs, drinking, etc.. By the end of the dream I was trying to keep her on my back as she just relaxed nonchalantly. I was trying to go up a ladder and force the both of us through a trap door that was stuck partially open, but the both of us wouldn't fit. As these people were trying to grab my legs and pull us both down, I had no choice but to let go of her and go through the door myself. I stopped on the other side and tried to offer my hand, but she was being carried off by those people and was still just relaxing and letting them carry her where ever they wanted.

I know I learned alot of valuable lessons from the relationship, but now I'm frightened at the prospect of a serious relationship. I'm actually a really sensitive guy, which no one around me would guess because I appear masculine and tough, but I think that sometimes the people who appear that way are actually the most sensitive and put up a wall for instinctive self defense. I'm trying to get over that fear, but any time I think about being serious with someone, that fear just creeps up and I don't know how to deal with it.

Sorry for the long post, once I get to typing I just get carried away with details lol.

 

[Alex88]

I just don't like people who equate utilizing some charlatan tactics and then trying to pass it off as trying to be social. Most of the guys posting in this thread about their "game" really mean to say they are trying to con women into bed, but just being cute about it. I'd respect someone a lot more who went 5 years getting friendzoned who was being him self in every situation. Rather than some douche who spits some jargon, fucking a chick, then spitting them to the curb. All the while they'll tell you, "oh women love it", "they're just as horny as us, even more so", "you gotta be forceful, direct, and confident". I deal with inmates all day, all I hear is a bunch of weak ass street hustle. You want advice, be yourself, and a good person. All this behavior isn't really reflective of ethical and moral men.

Anywho, if you couldn't tell I was joking by my "butt moist" comment, and the fact that I ran a guy out of the thread who came in throwing a shitty weak ass verbal haymaker, then I see why you have trouble with the ferchina.

OP is giving advice to help guys getting women and he's not even talking about being disrespectful towards anyone so whats the issue excactly ? Not everyone is casanova like you , so why don't you give out some advice instead of hating.

 

[Tacticious]

TS shared this with me. I know him IRL (he's my brother). I can attest for everything he says. When he comes to SLC, he stays at my place. He gets around 3 numbers per outing (usually multiple outings per night) and consequently has a few dates the next time he's out.

I've seen a couple comments regarding not just sitting around waiting for the woman to make the moves. While I generally agree, I don't think that's a globally correct assumption. I've done both what TS is suggesting and sat around not making moves. I've never been a bitch, a woman already has a vagina she doesn't need another one. I just never outright chased much. It happened, but after the few times it did I just said screw it and stopped actually TRYING to win women over. I don't know what it is about my personality, but I seem to get hit on a lot. I don't profess to be any sort of lady killer or the best looking dude on the planet, but for some reason I've been able to just coast along without much effort. It's strange to me to say the least. Now I'm married, and for whatever reason the last 3 months I've gotten hit on probably ~10 times. I will say, though, I'd like to think my main area of expertise in this context is relationships. Not random encounters, but relationships where one enjoys the time spent with their SO, rather than just the booty.

Edit:

Jesus christ, first post and I registered in '05. Wow.

I'd respect someone a lot more who went 5 years getting friendzoned who was being him self in every situation.

No one respects that guy, least of all the woman walking on him. Sorry, but if that's a guy who gets respect, he doesn't get friendzoned. Part of getting respect is respecting yourself. I do agree with being yourself in every situation, but that doesn't mean you let someone walk all over you. You can be yourself and still be assertive. You can be yourself and do what TS is suggesting. No where in this post do I see "be totally fake".

 

[FinalFight]

holy tl dr batman lol

 

[Real_Magi]

TS shared this with me. I know him IRL (he's my brother). I can attest for everything he says. When he comes to SLC, he stays at my place. He gets around 3 numbers per outing (usually multiple outings per night) and consequently has a few dates the next time he's out.

I've seen a couple comments regarding not just sitting around waiting for the woman to make the moves. While I generally agree, I don't think that's a globally correct assumption. I've done both what TS is suggesting and sat around not making moves. I don't know what it is about my personality, but I seem to get hit on a lot. I don't profess to be any sort of lady killer or the best looking dude on the planet, but for some reason I've been able to just coast along without much effort. It's strange to me to say the least. Now I'm married, and for whatever reason the last 3 months I've gotten hit on probably ~10 times. I will say, though, I'd like to think my main area of expertise in this context is relationships. Not random encounters, but relationships where one enjoys the time spent with their SO, rather than just the booty.

Edit:

Jesus christ, first post and I registered in '05. Wow.

Lol you have had this account for ten years and just barely posted? That's a fuckign record I'd imagine. Not to hijack the thread or anything.

Funny, this guy is my little brother and is way better at relationships than me. All around more mature in most areas too. You should write out a post about how to transition into a serious relationship and how to spot a girl that's worth a relationship broseph. It would actually help me immensely.

EDIT: Just have to say too, Tact is great at not putting up with any bullshit from women. I tend to be more of a laid back type of partner, but he is very assertive and almost always dictates the way the relationship transpires, and even what they do as a couple. He does get hit on a shit load too, which I think has alot to do with his insanely quick wit and the fact that he's the funniest mother fucker I've ever known. He's also damn good looking.

 

[Tacticious]

Lol you have had this account for ten years and just barely posted? That's a fuckign record I'd imagine. Not to hijack the thread or anything.

Funny, this guy is my little brother and is way better at relationships than me. All around more mature in most areas too. You should write out a post about how to transition into a serious relationship and how to spot a girl that's worth a relationship broseph. It would actually help me immensely.

Apparently I like to read more than type, lol.

I don't necessarily agree with the maturity part. I think it's just a difference in personalities. I'm generally more serious and don't have much of a need to voice my opinion. You, on the other hand, are more of a social butterfly. Pretty interesting all-in-all.

I feel like a relationship tip post would be 40 pages :icon_chee LOTS of variables.

 

[Real_Magi]

Apparently I like to read more than type, lol.

I don't necessarily agree with the maturity part. I think it's just a difference in personalities. I'm generally more serious and don't have much of a need to voice my opinion. You, on the other hand, are more of a social butterfly. Pretty interesting all-in-all.

I feel like a relationship tip post would be 40 pages :icon_chee LOTS of variables.

At least type out how you believe you attract women since my method requires being super out going.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Is your family last name "wall-o-text" by any chance, TS?

One line of resistance we get in these threads is the "just be yourself" argument that Omegaboy just poorly tried to employ on the previous page. The problem with this is that it assumes that some transcendent "true self" not only exists, but is always attractive to women.

Some guys need to hear this because they're shy and hesitate to express themselves, fair enough. But some guys need to hear something different: be someone new.

If being yourself isn't working, and it's making you profoundly unhappy, change. Don't wait around for the world to fall in love with who you are now. It's not obligated to do so, no matter how genuine you think you're being.

 

[Tacticious]

Is your family last name "wall-o-text" by any chance, TS?

One line of resistance we get in these threads is the "just be yourself" argument that Omegaboy just poorly tried to employ on the previous page. The problem with this is that it assumes that some transcendent "true self" not only exists, but is always attractive to women.

Some guys need to hear this because they're shy and hesitate to express themselves, fair enough. But some guys need to hear something different: be someone new.

If being yourself isn't working, and it's making you profoundly unhappy, change. Don't wait around for the world to fall in love with who you are now. It's not obligated to do so, no matter how genuine you think you're being.

I completely agree. If "just be yourself" was the legitimate answer, no one would read a post like this as it'd already be working. You can be yourself while employing other "tactics" to change your approach. If your approach isn't working, someone telling you "just be yourself" is going to frustrate the hell out of you. Some things work, others don't. Some things work better than others. Such is life.

At least type out how you believe you attract women since my method requires being super out going.

Yeah I can do that. For some reason I don't want to start a new post though.

 

[Real_Magi]

Is your family last name "wall-o-text" by any chance, TS?

"The devil is in the details" -- Seems to describe my family perfectly.

One line of resistance we get in these threads is the "just be yourself" argument that Omegaboy just poorly tried to employ on the previous page. The problem with this is that it assumes that some transcendent "true self" not only exists, but is always attractive to women.

Some guys need to hear this because they're shy and hesitate to express themselves, fair enough. But some guys need to hear something different: be someone new.

If being yourself isn't working, and it's making you profoundly unhappy, change. Don't wait around for the world to fall in love with who you are now. It's not obligated to do so, no matter how genuine you think you're being.

Agreed 100% with your post man. I'm always trying to evolve and change myself for the better.

Yeah I can do that. For some reason I don't want to start a new post though.

Yeah just do it here.

 

[F. Todos]

Some women have this weird thing where they will encourage you to over commit to them, then dump you if they feel you are too into them. Girls are confusing lol.

Yep. When you see that coming, knowing it's going to fizzle out anyways, may as well play ball while ya can..