How often do you notice size differences

[generalyum]

Frankie at LW

 

[TriangleMonkey]

How bout every Michel Periera fight

 

[Neck&Neck]

Usually when it’s tree times the size

But I love a good lanklet vs Manlet matchup

 

[filthybliss]

mma has had a history of fights with size differences since the beginning now it can only happen within one weight category

Bob sapp fights.

Tbh I think hw should unlimited weight.

 

[Hdfi]

It's okay as long as they can make weight.

 

[Dr. Rose]

Benson Henderson looked noticeably bigger than Frankie Edgar.

DC always “looked” smaller than his opponents at 205 imo.

Michael Johnson appeared noticeably smaller than Poirier, Khabib and Nate Diaz imo.

Ha, a few years back a gf of mine noticed that DC looked small at 205, but not at HW. I told her it is in the way men carry fat. She asked what I meant and I told her that some women have fat asses and men have fat stomachs. She didn't really like me after that.

 

[Xoleth]

Alex Pereira vs Strickland
Michel Pereira vs Tristan Connelly & Diego
Frankie Edgar looked small even at BW
Petr Yan vs Aljo
Jones vs Machida, Rashad & others
GSP vs BJ

 

[orca]

So by weighing in one day before and allowing rehydration the fighters can meet at a specified weight that they both agree too.
That being said, many guys simply don’t want to cut the weight (and I don’t blame them) Yet we have had a lot of champions who are not even close to the largest guys in their weight classes.

What I’m really trying to ask is, when you see fights that are clearly involving a fighter who is smaller then his opponent do you believe that these matchups are made in order to give a favored fighter an “easy win”?
What comes to mind with that is like Israel vs Gastelum or GSP vs BJ and basically all the O’malley fights

GSP is a big dude big muscles with below 10percent body fat
i dont know how you compete in that weight like him
but dont ever comment that he is a big WW in his time
gsp fanboys gonna get mad
dont even mention that he has alot of muscle with body fat below 10 percent
we dont even know how he does it

 

[Minato]

GSP was an odd but incredibly appropriate reference. When he first joined the UFC, he seemed like a big WW, and was pretty much jacked from day 1. Always stayed in meticulous shape to be fight ready. Over the course of his career, it genuinely looked like all his opponents were getting bigger than him. He seemed to go from a "big" WW to an "average-to-small sized" WW.

Rumble trying to fight at 170 is fucked. Not sure what he was thinking.

Josh Emmett always seemed a weight class bigger than his opponent come fight night.

I believe Shogun could have made MW with very little difficulty.

It's too bad that TJ chose to fight at WW joining the UFC. He found his calling at LW.

And that 6'4" idiot Corey Hill trying to fight at LW. That mother fucker needed to eat a few fucking sandwiches and fight at WW. At least. It would be like Stephan Struve trying to fight at 185. Same with Magomedsharipov. 6'1" fighting at 145lbs? Give me a fucking break.

GSP seemed noticeably bigger than Matt Hughes who himself used to be considered a big WW. I think it's all relative as fighters became better at weight cutting and the disparity between weigh in and walk around weights became more extreme.

I don't think Shogun was alone at LHW. Many LHW fighters could or should've fought at MW. We know Machida and Evans eventually did but it could also be argued Rampage and DC should've too. DC is interesting in that by his own admission is a cheater with the towel trick as well as also having had suspicious hormone levels yet didn't do a legal way to get better performance and easier weight cuts which is by eating healthy.

There are obviously diminishing returns. A good example was Poirier at FW. He is noticeably bigger than even McGregor (a fighter known for using his size advantage at FW), but has performed much more consistently at LW. McGregor probably should've stayed at FW as he seemed to find the sweet spot for himself there.

 

[pamirec]

Sakuraba vs most of his opponents.

 

[dog y]

Two fights come to mind in the same weight class that's not a HW fight or a freak show like Takase vs Yarborough

Rumble vs Yoshida at 170

And the much more egregious one

Rumble vs brenneman

 

[NoSmilez]

GSP seemed noticeably bigger than Matt Hughes who himself used to be considered a big WW. I think it's all relative as fighters became better at weight cutting and the disparity between weigh in and walk around weights became more extreme.

I don't think Shogun was alone at LHW. Many LHW fighters could or should've fought at MW. We know Machida and Evans eventually did but it could also be argued Rampage and DC should've too. DC is interesting in that by his own admission is a cheater with the towel trick as well as also having had suspicious hormone levels yet didn't do a legal way to get better performance and easier weight cuts which is by eating healthy.

There are obviously diminishing returns. A good example was Poirier at FW. He is noticeably bigger than even McGregor (a fighter known for using his size advantage at FW), but has performed much more consistently at LW. McGregor probably should've stayed at FW as he seemed to find the sweet spot for himself there.

Shogun isn't that tall but he was very wide. I met Ninja a long time ago and he is a smaller guy than Shogun. Ninja was bigger than me and I was around 200 lbs then.

 

[Urluberluu]

Jones vs Mauricio Rua

 

[pankrat]

Shogun isn't that tall but he was very wide. I met Ninja a long time ago and he is a smaller guy than Shogun. Ninja was bigger than me and I was around 200 lbs then.

I believe Shogun could have made MW with very little difficulty.

Maybe, Shogun could have made 185 when he was a slim 21 year old weighting a bit over 200lbs, as in the IFC tournament:



But if we go by how much weighted fighters in their teen/young adult years, then we would need to get every fighter one or two weightclasses down.
A full grown adult Shogun would have lot of touble making 185, and he himself admitted as much.

I don't think Shogun was alone at LHW. Many LHW fighters could or should've fought at MW. We know Machida and Evans eventually did but it could also be argued Rampage and DC should've too.

Machida definitely.
Evans hardly, and actually struggled at 185.
Shogun, and specially Rampage and DC no fucking way. Maybe when they were very very young, but not later.

And that 6'4" idiot Corey Hill trying to fight at LW. That mother fucker needed to eat a few fucking sandwiches and fight at WW. At least. It would be like Stephan Struve trying to fight at 185. Same with Magomedsharipov. 6'1" fighting at 145lbs? Give me a fucking break.

Well it seems you dont understand that we live in 3 dimensions and height doesnt equal size.

There are guys with toothpicks for legs and tiny waist/hips and then there are guys with trunks for legs and wide waist/hips, which is WAY more relevant to the weight of a full grown adult than a few inches in height. You must be 12 years old if you didnt realize yet.

 

[usernamee]

5 days notice so maybe can't fault them completely but definitely felt like he was set up to get smashed to bits

But then homeboy got the win

 

[pankrat]

So by weighing in one day before and allowing rehydration the fighters can meet at a specified weight that they both agree too.
That being said, many guys simply don’t want to cut the weight (and I don’t blame them) Yet we have had a lot of champions who are not even close to the largest guys in their weight classes.

What I’m really trying to ask is, when you see fights that are clearly involving a fighter who is smaller then his opponent do you believe that these matchups are made in order to give a favored fighter an “easy win”?
What comes to mind with that is like Israel vs Gastelum or GSP vs BJ and basically all the O’malley fights

O'Malley is not even that big for the weightclass. He just has a very lanky build. Definitely not heavier than his last opponent in Aljo.

Similar for Israel, although Gastelum was indeed undersized at MW.

If you go back to GSP vs BJ there are plenty of example of size discrepancy. Frankie vs Bendo was similarly outrageous.

In more recent times, one of the biggest size discrepancies below LHW in UFC was Okami vs Saint-Preux. Easily 30lbs gap between them in fight night. Also Anderson vs Cormier.

 

[SuperNerd]

No, I dont think they booked BJ vs GSP for an easy win

They booked it because it was an massive fight that made lots of money.

 

[humdizzle]

 

[orca]

Shogun isn't that tall but he was very wide. I met Ninja a long time ago and he is a smaller guy than Shogun. Ninja was bigger than me and I was around 200 lbs then.

you forgot about shoguns legs
those are some big meaty legs

 

[StonedLemur]

Everyone cuts weight sir.

So by weighing in one day before and allowing rehydration the fighters can meet at a specified weight that they both agree too.
That being said, many guys simply don’t want to cut the weight (and I don’t blame them) Yet we have had a lot of champions who are not even close to the largest guys in their weight classes.

What I’m really trying to ask is, when you see fights that are clearly involving a fighter who is smaller then his opponent do you believe that these matchups are made in order to give a favored fighter an “easy win”?
What comes to mind with that is like Israel vs Gastelum or GSP vs BJ and basically all the O’malley fights