How much weight is cut on average? How much water weight do fighters cut?

[Oceanmachine]

@Miokink026 is calling me an idiot for saying no one is cutting 35lbs or over 50lbs of water weight. Especially with IV bans

@Miokink026 says average LW and FW and people are cutting 35lbs of weight or more, and that some HW are 300lbs or over 300lbs (cutting 35lbs or 40lbs or more!)



Can we get some real evidence some science as to what is feasible to cut? And what people actually weigh in the cage in fight night.

 

[JRD054]

Hard to tell as almost no fighters release their true walk around weights or pre cut weights.

 

[Oceanmachine]

Hard to tell as almost no fighters release their true walk around weights or pre cut weights.

Well from ONE which eliminated weight cutting we sort of see nobody is.

 

[randomg1t]

no featherweight cuts 35lbs, that's absurd. a heavyweight, maybe. but there aren't many HWs above the 265 limit.

a 15lbs cut is pretty standard and can be done by more or less anyone, though it is far more difficult at the lower weights. i guess the more extreme cutters at the lowest classes still do it.

what people don't realize is that after a certain point, every next pound gets exponentially more difficult to lose. cutting 20lbs isn't 30% more difficult than cutting 15lbs. it's a fucking nightmare.

not to mention 90% of sherdog thinks walk around weight is fight night weight, so when they hear khabib is 200lbs when he's out of camp, they assume he cuts 45lbs. they are retarded.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Hard to tell as almost no fighters release their true walk around weights or pre cut weights.

Walk around weight means nothing though.

What matters is the difference between weight in and octagon weight.

Average should be something like this :

FLW BW FW: 10-15
LW WW : 15-20
MW LHW : 20-25
HW : Not many fighters actually cut water weight. The biggest weight cutters might cut 30 pounds of water but thats a lot.

 

[Johnnny]

California reweighs fighters the day of the fight. This gives a fairly accurate picture of how much water weight fighters cut. On top of that, many fighters lose between 5 to 15 pounds during their fight camp before starting their water cut.

 

[JonJonesNeedle]

California reweighs fighters the day of the fight. This gives a fairly accurate picture of how much water weight fighters cut. On top of that, many fighters lose between 5 to 15 pounds during their fight camp before starting their water cut.

My goodness, Aspen Ladd is ridiculous lol.

 

[randomg1t]

some athletic commissions release fight night weights for fighters, a few events are gathered right here.

this isn't my document, no clue about the credit but i found it here.

so, yeah. 35lbs is complete and utter bollocks. this isn't even perfectly representative of the actual cut, since people often consume more water and food when recovering than they cut in the final 3 days before the weigh-ins.

 

[Oceanmachine]

California reweighs fighters the day of the fight. This gives a fairly accurate picture of how much water weight fighters cut. On top of that, many fighters lose between 5 to 15 pounds during their fight camp before starting their water cut.

Anderson was such a GOAT at MW. Weighing 195lbs to 200lbs then you got these guys like Costa and Yoel at 210lbs lol or 213lbs

 

[youllneverwalkalone]

California reweighs fighters the day of the fight. This gives a fairly accurate picture of how much water weight fighters cut. On top of that, many fighters lose between 5 to 15 pounds during their fight camp before starting their water cut.

Column names are confusing. "DayBeforeWeight" would be the official weigh and "DayOfWeigh" the in-cage weight?

 

[TriangleMonkey]

My goodness, Aspen Ladd is ridiculous lol.

LoL ya see

Ladd prob “walks-around” at 175 or so

 

[Miokink026]

Hard to tell as almost no fighters release their true walk around weights or pre cut weights.

no featherweight cuts 35lbs, that's absurd. a heavyweight, maybe. but there aren't many HWs above the 265 limit.

a 15lbs cut is pretty standard and can be done by more or less anyone, though it is far more difficult at the lower weights. i guess the more extreme cutters at the lowest classes still do it.

what people don't realize is that after a certain point, every next pound gets exponentially more difficult to lose. cutting 20lbs isn't 30% more difficult than cutting 15lbs. it's a fucking nightmare.

not to mention 90% of sherdog thinks walk around weight is fight night weight, so when they hear khabib is 200lbs when he's out of camp, they assume he cuts 45lbs. they are retarded.

Column names are confusing. "DayBeforeWeight" would be the official weigh and "DayOfWeigh" the in-cage weight?

Lol don't believe the fool's lies. He told me straight up 300 lb men can't make 265 lbs. I told him they can easily do that and gave him evidence.

He BACKTRACKED and started blabbering about how tthey must be able to make that weight in 24 hours. Nobody even mentioned pre fight night weight and octagon weight. The only premise was can 300 lb men cut 35 lbs and fight at 265. With a full camp, they can easily do that since people in lower weight classes do that all the time.

Now he's lying to desperately get people to agree with him so he can say he 'destroyed' me.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...guys-always-care-more.4201200/#post-165861606

Here, this is the entire thing. If anyone actually wants to see just how much of a tool he is, read it. It's quite pathetic but entertaining.

 

[Miokink026]

@Miokink026 is calling me an idiot for saying no one is cutting 35lbs or over 50lbs of water weight. Especially with IV bans

@Miokink026 says average LW and FW and people are cutting 35lbs of weight or more, and that some HW are 300lbs or over 300lbs (cutting 35lbs or 40lbs or more!)



Can we get some real evidence some science as to what is feasible to cut? And what people actually weigh in the cage in fight night.

YOU NEVER MENTIONED IT HAS TO BE WATER WEIGHT OR PRE FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHT but here, somehow when you're crying to the community about how I bullied your ass, you added that little requirement?

Jesus, what an insecure little fool.

 

[RightToBareKnuckles]

some athletic commissions release fight night weights for fighters, a few events are gathered right here.

this isn't my document, no clue about the credit but i found it here.

so, yeah. 35lbs is complete and utter bollocks. this isn't even perfectly representative of the actual cut, since people often consume more water and food when recovering than they cut in the final 3 days before the weigh-ins.

good point. So roughly when do people start the water-weight cut? I'm wondering how we could accurately measure that part. Compare the weigh-in weight to what it was the day before? or two days before?

 

[Jarvan]

@Miokink026 is calling me an idiot for saying no one is cutting 35lbs or over 50lbs of water weight. Especially with IV bans

@Miokink026 says average LW and FW and people are cutting 35lbs of weight or more, and that some HW are 300lbs or over 300lbs (cutting 35lbs or 40lbs or more!)



Can we get some real evidence some science as to what is feasible to cut? And what people actually weigh in the cage in fight night.

It's pretty well known Khabib walked around 190-195 before cutting down to 155

not all fighters cut that hard, obviously

Most lightweight hover around 180 - 185

Tibau is also a notorious cutter
Bout the same as khabib

 

[Oceanmachine]

It's pretty well known Khabib walked around 190-195 before cutting down to 155

not all fighters cut that hard, obviously

Most lightweight hover around 180 - 185

Tibau is also a notorious cutter
Bout the same as khabib

Khabib was not 190lbs in the cage on fight night though. Out of shape out of camp he balloned up to that though sure

 

[Jarvan]

Khabib was not 190lbs in the cage on fight night though. Out of shape out of camp he balloned up to that though sure

Khabib was never out of shape

no one said he weighed that on fight day

wtf

 

[Oceanmachine]

Khabib was never out of shape

no one said he weighed that on fight day

wtf

The point of my thread is fight night weight. Water weight cut

Read again

 

[ThunderStruck]

Anderson was such a GOAT at MW. Weighing 195lbs to 200lbs then you got these guys like Costa and Yoel at 210lbs lol or 213lbs

Prime Silva weighed more than 195 to 200. Pretty sure he said he was 205 for his MW fights. He lost mass when getting older / when USADA.

 

[ThunderStruck]

It's pretty well known Khabib walked around 190-195 before cutting down to 155

not all fighters cut that hard, obviously

Most lightweight hover around 180 - 185

Tibau is also a notorious cutter
Bout the same as khabib

Walking around weight is 100% meaningless when it comes to actual fight weight though.