How many lower weight UFC champs can the worst UFC Heavyweight beat?

[tramendous]

Here's a partial list of unranked HWs. Feel free to add others.

Ben Rothwell
Walt Harris
Chase Sherman
Greg Hardy

Can they beat

Glover (LHW)
Izzy (MW)
Kamaru (WW)
Olivera (LW)
Volk (FW)
Sterling (BW)
Fig (Fly)

I think WW and below have no chance at winning. It starts to get interesting at MW. Ironically, I think the chances dip at LHW since Glover is so old.

same with oliveira

 

[Johnnny]

If you let Volk and up gain weight they will probably beat the shit out of every HW listed expect for Rothwell.

You are underestimating how short Volkanovski is. He might be listed at 5'6", but he is 5'4" at best.

His own wife dwarfs him.

 

[mjfan23]

Top 3 LWs, FWs and BW at the same time might manage to beat Big Ben

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Wait what...some people here have no idea how big middleweights are. Most of the good middleweights would beat the bottom ranked heavyweights.

 

[DestinedAussie]

Here's a partial list of unranked HWs. Feel free to add others.

Ben Rothwell
Walt Harris
Chase Sherman
Greg Hardy

Can they beat

Glover (LHW)
Izzy (MW)
Kamaru (WW)
Olivera (LW)
Volk (FW)
Sterling (BW)
Fig (Fly)

I think WW and below have no chance at winning. It starts to get interesting at MW. Ironically, I think the chances dip at LHW since Glover is so old.

I think Glover is the only one with a chance (assuming he was allowed to weigh in like a HW not at the LHW limit). Izzy has shown what a little bit of size advantage does v him. A lot of size would be a mess.

In general I think it is hard to judge if you are giving them a chance to bulk up, but at their current weights it is hard to see v those guys you listed.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

The worst HW is Harry Hunsucker, I believe Glover, Izzy and Usman could beat him. I think Oliveira is probably too small.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Ok, pal.. whatever you say.

But why duck the highest paycheque in the sport (Several UFC HW got paid close to 7 figures for headlining a FN card). If you can cut massive amounts of weight to fight well below your own true weight for less money??

It becomes more obvious everyday that a lot of you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.

Go away.

Which ones? Overeem, JDS was on good money but also a former champion, Arlovski makes decent money but not close to 7 figures. Most HW's aren't any better paid than anyone else.

 

[TheScorpionDude]

You are underestimating how short Volkanovski is. He might be listed at 5'6", but he is 5'4" at best.

His own wife dwarfs him.

Not at all, I just posted a video of him sparring with Adesanya. Volk is very short.

He won't do anything...

For instance, Hardy is listed as 6'5 + 280 lbs on Wiki, so probably at 265 lbs for the official weigh-in.

Max weight i've seen for Volk is 214 lbs... also i would want to see how he attains such a massive weight for his height without being fat under USADA...

He will do whatever he wants against Hardy. He obviously won't be able to get that weight properly cause this is all a MADE UP SCENARIO in which HYPOTHETICALLY he'd still be in his rugby shape.

Like I said, Ben Rothwell, legit HW, would kill him. Straight up kill him without a doubt. But the others are just bad.

This is not me saying FWs have a shot at HWs, it's me saying that the HW division is a bit thin on talent. There are weight classes for a reason.

For me personally, the best MMA HW is always the strongest fighter in the world, end of discussion.

 

[GOATtalks]

Plenty of LHWs that could beat HWs .... HW division is mostly fat guys that don't want to make the cut anymore. DC went up there and beat Stipe. Jones routinely walks into the cage around the same weight as stipe, maybe just a few pounds less.

Glover could beat some HWs just through BJJ skill
Izzy could possibly win some matches too but if they grab him and get him down it might be a short night

Fat guys who are too lazy to cut to LHW:



True athletic HW giant:



Lol

 

[Sticko]

Fat guys who are too lazy to cut to LHW:

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Lol

Yes you listed most of the good HWs, good job

Of course the elite HWs are generally proper HW size

 

[ferrisjso]

Possibly none given how stacked 135 is and how good Volk is. Low level HW's are the worst fighters in the promotion though MW's trying to give them a run for their money.

People forget about the OW era. Now that went more down to 155 not the WEC classes but the best small fighters can beat inferior bigger fighters. Weight helped but guy's who'd be LHW, MW or even WW/LW were successful at that time against HW's. Weight classes are there to protect the lower level guys more.

I will concede in OW era the HW's tended to be fat MW size and that smaller guys would be facing a bigger size gap today. 6 ft 2 and taller guys were very rare in the early era of MMA and DC sized HW's were somewhat common.

 

[spinup]

Well, we all know how Sterling would beat Greg Hardy :

 

[jx820]

Is De La Rocha still under contract? I'd pick Usman to beat him. 42 years old, 1-3 in the UFC.

 

[GOATtalks]

Yes you listed most of the good HWs, good job

Of course the elite HWs are generally proper HW size

I actually have a hard time imagining who in the HW division are fat LHW’s. Can you name them?

 

[Sad Dad]

This is Dodson sparring a terrible MW. Dodson is not a champion but he fought for the title before.

That looks fucking ridiculous lol I forget how small these guys really are. It’s weird because 155 and even a bunch or 145ers look like totally normal dudes especially in the off season but 135 and under guys look absurd next to any average sized person.

 

[GOATtalks]

I could actually see Khamzat beating all 4

 

[Hotora86]

Have you ever heard about Minowaman? A small MW who subbed HWs as a gimmick.

Sakuraba was often undersized in open tournaments. BJ Penn held his own vs Machida. There are other examples, especially if you reach back in time. UFC 1 opened with essentially a LHW Karate guy knocking out a 450 lb / 200 kg Sumo guy.

Another question is if they have to cut to their nominal weight class and if they have time to bulk.

 

[JustOnce]

Here's a partial list of unranked HWs. Feel free to add others.

Ben Rothwell
Walt Harris
Chase Sherman
Greg Hardy

Can they beat

Glover (LHW)
Izzy (MW)
Kamaru (WW)
Olivera (LW)
Volk (FW)
Sterling (BW)
Fig (Fly)

I think WW and below have no chance at winning. It starts to get interesting at MW. Ironically, I think the chances dip at LHW since Glover is so old.

Rothwell would beat them all. I guess Glover and Izzy might go the other way, but I think Rothwell beats them both too.

 

[EnergyExorcist]

I could see somebody like Alex Periera KOing some trash HWs that can't wrestle, he is like 6'4 and has crazy power, he would come out at probably like 220lbs with his frame without cutting weight and chuging protein shakes and devouring pizzas during the training camp.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I could actually see Khamzat beating all 4

Khamzat ragdolls Latifi in training from what I've heard.