News How is anyone not talking about the UFC Antitrust lawsuit?

[TheScorpionDude]

can anyone put what this means in simpler terms for the not so sharp sherbros as myself?

You read it, kill some time, say fuck the ufc a couple of times, then read about it again in 2-3 years.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

can anyone put what this means in simpler terms for the not so sharp sherbros as myself?

Basically judge says they fighters are allowed to sue as group that’s it.

An actual trial hasn’t begun yet and won’t likely start for a couple of years even then the trail will likely take years.

And the UFC will appeal this decision before we can start thinking about a trial.

We still don’t know if the UFC is guilty yet.

 

[TerrorTimmy]

I hope the fighters win.

That said, I also hope it doesn't mean the end of organized MMA. Considering the current state of affairs, a multi-billion-dollar settlement would likely force them to close. Bellator would become too expensive for Viacom to maintain. Where does that leave things?

I hope for a settlement where fighters get around 60% of revenues earned. 18% or whatever it is now is fucking insulting.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I doubt it really means anything

 

[GueseGuy]

Because the UFC controls the mma media. They are scared to talk about it.

 

[TGArthur]

I can't imagine a billion dollar company like the UFC doesn't have a slue of attorneys to make sure their contracts comply with anti-trust/non compete clause agreements

 

[DestinedAussie]

All this means is the case can proceed. They haven't won, I also don't see how they win as there is plenty of competition with PFL, Bellator and One all splashing some money around.

Long term exclusive contracts are common in sport. I don't see how UFC contracts are any different and how they are creating a monopoly for UFC, the EPSN deal does that more than the contracts.

 

[the big marmot]

All this means is the case can proceed. They haven't won, I also don't see how they win as there is plenty of competition with PFL, Bellator and One all splashing some money around.

Long term exclusive contracts are common in sport. I don't see how UFC contracts are any different and how they are creating a monopoly for UFC, the EPSN deal does that more than the contracts.

its not only the isue of a monopoly but also aplying the right of the ali act to mma, sponsors and image and name rights in the video games, dvds and clothes

 

[kflo]

I hope the fighters win.

That said, I also hope it doesn't mean the end of organized MMA. Considering the current state of affairs, a multi-billion-dollar settlement would likely force them to close. Bellator would become too expensive for Viacom to maintain. Where does that leave things?

I hope for a settlement where fighters get around 60% of revenues earned. 18% or whatever it is now is fucking insulting.

How can you disassociate market values from salaries? 60% is just a made up number. Half these boards bitch about the quality of the fighters and the cards and then turn around and say those same fighters should get 3x what they can make anywhere else. And the similar fighters in other orgs get shit.

Im all for the fighters having fair and better treatment and shady practices intended to hurt fighters marketability should be stopped. But just some judge artificially setting a revenue share should not the hoped for outcome in my opinion.

 

[kflo]

Because the UFC controls the mma media. They are scared to talk about it.

thats why espn doesn’t have an article about it.

oh wait. They do.

 

[GueseGuy]

thats why espn doesn’t have an article about it.

oh wait. They do.

Writing an article is a lot different from covering it. They actively cover fights, not this lawsuit. It is an afterthought for the media. It should be a front page story we are actively following. And it’s not. They gloss over it.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

its not only the isue of a monopoly but also aplying the right of the ali act to mma, sponsors and image and name rights in the video games, dvds and clothes

Nah, the fighters already lost in the image rights issue. They had no case so the judge tossed that out

And this case has nothing to do with the Ali Act at all. You are confused

 

[GueseGuy]

I hope the fighters win.

That said, I also hope it doesn't mean the end of organized MMA. Considering the current state of affairs, a multi-billion-dollar settlement would likely force them to close. Bellator would become too expensive for Viacom to maintain. Where does that leave things?

I hope for a settlement where fighters get around 60% of revenues earned. 18% or whatever it is now is fucking insulting.

Are you aware how much Viacom/CBS is worth? You don’t think they’d gladly take over the #1 organization in the world? That’s what they originally wanted in the UFC.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Are you aware how much Viacom/CBS is worth? You don’t think they’d gladly take over the #1 organization in the world? That’s what they originally wanted in the UFC.

Viacom would never dedicate that much of their resources to MMA. Bellator is nothing but a small side project to them. It’s was never meant to truly compete with the UFC only provide cheap content to their network

 

[kflo]

Writing an article is a lot different from covering it. They actively cover fights, not this lawsuit. It is an afterthought for the media. It should be a front page story we are actively following. And it’s not. They gloss over it.

There’s very little to talk about even here on a forum with mma fans. We are a long way away from more substantive news. It’s a step in the process.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Writing an article is a lot different from covering it. They actively cover fights, not this lawsuit. It is an afterthought for the media. It should be a front page story we are actively following. And it’s not. They gloss over it.

To be fair these guys aren’t lawyers they don’t what any of this means. Jose Young isn’t exactly qualified for this kind of news.

Bloody Elbow has been doing a serviceable job covering this but most people haven’t taken the time to read up in this

 

[Casanova]

@superpunch when you force long contracts , that’s the problem, they can’t go anywhere else nor can they negotiate most of the time.

 

[kflo]

@superpunch when you force long contracts , that’s the problem, they can’t go anywhere else nor can they negotiate most of the time.

Fighters sign 3 and 4 fight deals too.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Didn't take long for the shilling to begin.

 

[Kingz]

Probably because we’re short on details. Every now and then there is a dump of info that usually leads into discussions about others things but there isn’t that much information on where it’s at. These type of things can take years and years...hell, it’s already been years but it can take even longer.