Social How ID politics and inequality is leading to the rise of White Nationalism

[Thurisaz]

Identity politics are the norm for a multinational empire. Left and right are only meaningful within the same demographic.

Lee Kuan Yew stated it best:
"In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion."

That said, "white" is not a nation.

 

[Happy Man]

I doubt it was the ACLU. Anyone who doesn't support it is either a god damn fool or woefully misinformed and better wise up fast.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/aclus-longstanding-commitment-defending-speech-we-hate

The ACLU, the nation’s oldest and largest civil liberties organization, has always had its share of critics. Many condemned us for defending Nazis’ right to march in Skokie in the 1970s. Some, like former Attorney General Ed Meese, labeled us the “criminals’ lobby” for advocating for constitutional rights for those accused of crime.

We earned few friends when we represented Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen suspected of terrorist ties and killed in a drone strike by the Obama administration. After we represented a white supremacist denied a permit by the city of Charlottesville, we were criticized for defending white supremacists.

Such criticism comes with the territory, and does not dissuade us from defending the Bill of Rights, no matter how unpopular our clients may be.

Lol, they caught mad shit for this. Funny thread.

They did. And they were great. But they have been take over by ultra leftists now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...aclu-retreats-from-free-expression-1529533065

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-im-no-longer-giving-to-the-aclu


Sad isn’t it. The left just hates free speech now.

 

[NoDak]

They did. And they were great. But they have been take over by ultra leftists now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...aclu-retreats-from-free-expression-1529533065

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-im-no-longer-giving-to-the-aclu

Sad isn’t it. The left just hates free speech now.

It's not over yet.

The link I gave actually addresses Kaminer’s criticisms.

But Wendy Kaminer’s criticism, published in the Wall Street Journal, is different from those challenges to our work. Her critique is predicated on a fundamental misrepresentation. She falsely accuses the ACLU of having secretly changed its policy regarding free speech — and of launching an investigation to determine who “leaked” the “secret” document that she claims reveals this asserted change in policy.

In fact, the ACLU remains fully committed to defending free speech as the document she cites – our guidelines for case selection -- expressly reaffirms. That document does not change our longstanding policies and has never been secret.

After the tragic events in Charlottesville, we reaffirmed our commitment to defending speech with which we disagree. The ACLU Board — the only entity with the authority to change ACLU policy — discussed Charlottesville, and no one on the staff or the board asked the board to change our policies.

Nonetheless, it seemed clear to us that guidelines would help ACLU affiliates and national staff in considering cases that might pose conflicts between our values. We are a multi-issue organization, and some cases may present conflicts, such as between gay rights and religious freedom, privacy and women’s rights, or speech rights and equality. The guidelines, which have been distributed to all ACLU staff members, are explicitly designed to help affiliates and national staff think through various factors in case selection decisions.

And if you don’t believe our words, judge us by our acts. We represent Milo Yiannopoulos in a suit against the Washington, D.C. Metro system for suppressing ads for his book. We are defending a student group in San Diego that was penalized for publishing a satire of “safe spaces” that some students and faculty deem offensive.

We disagree sharply with those who engage in terrorism, criminal activity, homophobic or racist speech, or attempts to dissuade women from obtaining abortions. Yet we have defended the constitutional rights of terrorists, criminals, anti-gay and racist bigots, and right-to-life advocates. We don’t burn flags, but we defend the rights of those who do. Indeed, we’ll even defend Kaminer’s right to criticize the ACLU. But we do wish she’d get the facts straight.

 

[Joe]

White nationalism is a new thing?

 

[WTF2008]

Islamic people actually told you that they would take you over from the inside.

Ilhan Omar somehow got elected, then married her brother to get him in.

Then we have Rashida Tlaib with anti-Semitic bullshit statements being defended by people afraid to be anti-muslim.

I'm fucking baffled by how stupid people are.

 

[58miles]

White nationalism is a new thing?

Nothing at all new about it but these days instead of having the guts to march around out in the open they cowardly hide behind keyboards.

 

[WTF2008]

Nothing at all new about it but these days instead of having the guts to march around out in the open they cowardly hide behind keyboards.

You're trying to bring back racism and I don't get it.
Why?

Are you really convinced that there's some giant, hidden racist movement?

Ask an African American that lived through that shit and he'll call you a pussy for trying to equate a few assholes on the internet saying "bad stuff" with what they went through.

They'll call you stupid.

 

[58miles]

You're trying to bring back racism and I don't get it.
Why?

Are you really convinced that there's some giant, hidden racist movement?

Ask an African American that lived through that shit and he'll call you a pussy for trying to equate a few assholes on the internet saying "bad stuff" with what they went through.

They'll call you stupid.

No what I am saying is that at least they had the guts to be out in the open with there racist bullshit, while today people hide behind keyboards with their racist bullshit. As an African American I would rather somebody have the guts to look me in the eye and tell me what's what and let the chips fall where they may than to hide anonymously behind some keyboard.

 

[grizzard2bid]

By minority they mean all minorities combined vs white.

That 70% number is bullshit. Anyone who thinks we actually know how many people live in this country, lives in fairy tale land.

 

[WTF2008]

No what I am saying is that at least they had the guts to be out in the open with there racist bullshit, while today people hide behind keyboards with their racist bullshit. As an African American I would rather somebody have the guts to look me in the eye and tell me what's what and let the chips fall where they may than to hide anonymously behind some keyboard.

So you'd rather have a racist lynch mob string you up over a tree branch or burn a cross on your lawn and drag you behind a truck than just say mean stuff about your race on the internet?

You're a weird dude.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Identity politics are the norm for a multinational empire. Left and right are only meaningful within the same demographic.

Lee Kuan Yew stated it best:
"In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion."

That said, "white" is not a nation.

The truth of what Yew said can be observed in Canada. The leader of a riding will be the same race as the majority demographic that makes up that riding. For example, a heavily populated Punjabi Sikh area will have a Punjabi Sikh leader and so on. Many people vote on race not on policy.

 

[58miles]

There is a current invasion and half the country celebrates it. Civil war must come.

Half the country celebrates immigrants coming to America to start a new life the same way previous generations of immigrants have come to America to start a new life.

 

[WTF2008]

Half the country celebrates immigrants coming to America to start a new life the same way previous generations of immigrants have come to America to start a new life.

Half the country on sites you frequent.
You're ridiculous.

 

[58miles]

Half the country on sites you frequent.
You're ridiculous.

Half the country period feels that way and why should America not keep accepting new immigrants? Because of your paranoia and resentment?

 

[WTF2008]

Half the country period feels that way and why should America not keep accepting new immigrants? Because of your paranoia and resentment?

Accept as many legal immigrants as possible.
Just not people crossing illegally.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

 

[skold]

You're trying to bring back racism and I don't get it.
Why?

Are you really convinced that there's some giant, hidden racist movement?

Ask an African American that lived through that shit and he'll call you a pussy for trying to equate a few assholes on the internet saying "bad stuff" with what they went through.

They'll call you stupid.

Ask any white person with a life outside of internet and they'll call you a pussy for having a perpetual victim complex thinking theres some great anti white conspiracy

 

[Thurisaz]

The truth of what Yew said can be observed in Canada. The leader of a riding will be the same race as the majority demographic that makes up that riding. For example, a heavily populated Punjabi Sikh area will have a Punjabi Sikh leader and so on. Many people vote on race not on policy.

Yep, dot Indians are, along with Jews, some of the most heavy ethnic cronyists out there.

 

[skold]

Wow.. what an inspirational quote from some keyboard warrior nobody

Funny thing is, lesbians participate in gay pride marches as well.. but of course they aren't the problem since the pro-tradition dudes jerk off to lesbian porn daily.... its the icky butt stuff.. but its only icky if its 2 guys that do it

 

[NoDak]

Now what the fuck does this have to do with thread? I could rattle off a bunch of names too.



But yes, pride parades need to GTFO.

its the icky butt stuff.. but its only icky if its 2 guys that do it

I mean, not really. As in literally. People are icky and then kind of project themselves into the situation and that's gross. Devout knows what's what though, he's got a gay dude as his damn avatar FFS. <45>