How does Charles Oliveria do against those who previously beat him?

Oliveira is a different animal now. He would have a great chance beating and avenging all his losses imo.
 
I still think Felder is a tough match up for him, he absolutely battered him last time.
 
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Substance Abuse said:
I really think Charles moving up and filling out has helped with his durability which in turn has helped him build his confidence and not shut down mentally which he used to do.

I think Prime Frankie, Max and Pettis beat him. It's insane how underrated Prime, athletic Pettis is on this forum. He did some otherworldly shit. Max is just a tough matchup for him and has very underrated TDD. Frankie is just Frankie. I mean, that guy at his best is an all timer.

Let's just appreciate Charlie. The guy is such a breath of fresh air as a person and a champion.
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Agreed. It's actually really rare to see a guy build mental toughness the way Charles has, I give him a lot of props for that.
 
He will beat most of them but there is also a chance for one of them to tko him eventually. It's only a matter of time before he gets ko/tkoed and hands the belt to someone else.
 
All of them are washed besides Max I’ve been saying on this forum I’d rather see Max fight Charles than Volk again since their last fight wasn’t a real fight imo Charles vs max is 50/50 max wouldnt rock him but his cardio is insane and he could push Charles in later rounds
 
He beats them all except Max

Don't know how Oliveira will look late into the fight against Max holloway

Anthony pettis is a good fight but Oliveria can take him down and control him like RDA did
 
If those fighter are on their prime also, then its going to be difficult for him.

Cowboy : Cowboy has Size advantage, on when he was in his winning streak before fight RDA, he seems unstoppable, so i think Cowboy win
Felder : Oliveira Wins
Edgar : Oliveira Wins
Max : Oliveira Wins
Pettis : I think if the fight happen in LW and Pettis is on his prime, Charles would lose.
 
JonJonesNeedle said:
Charles is basically in his prime right now. Great grappler with nice striking. Gets dropped but comes back. Can sub you standing or on the ground. He's currently 32 I believe.

Interestingly a lot of fighters he has lost to were in their prime while Charles was relatively young. Curious on how Current Prime Charles does against the following fighters in their prime at 155:

Cowboy
Felder
Edgar
Max
Pettis

FWIW I believe he lost to Jim Miller when he was younger but then won the rematch years later when Charles was closer to his prime.
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If current Charles faces those guys at the time He faced em he only loses to Edgar and Miller
 
I assume he's handling it like a champ. Focusing on his future and learning from his past.
 
Max is still the same guy that beat him. I'd still pick Olives, but by no means he walks it.

He walks through the rest
 
JonJonesNeedle said:
Charles is basically in his prime right now. Great grappler with nice striking. Gets dropped but comes back. Can sub you standing or on the ground. He's currently 32 I believe.

Interestingly a lot of fighters he has lost to were in their prime while Charles was relatively young. Curious on how Current Prime Charles does against the following fighters in their prime at 155:

Cowboy
Felder
Edgar
Max
Pettis

FWIW I believe he lost to Jim Miller when he was younger but then won the rematch years later when Charles was closer to his prime.
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I think Oliveira could beat them all in the rematch

Though definitely curious to see how 2021 Oliveira with Max would played out
 
He beats the ones listed as they are past their primes and he's in his prime. The only one listed that could give him problems is Blessed and I still think Oliveira beats him at LW.
 
I felt there is a high chance that Olivera could ragdoll Max at LW.

Their fight at FW didn't tell us much since Charles got injured early.
 
Those are tough match-ups. Cowboy was good at range and very hard to sub, he's legit black belt level. Prime Edgar's also a tough fight. Keeps moving to outpoint, can't put him away, elite top game. Max has the volume and avoiding the ground. Pettis was a ninja standing and had a good guard. Felder had power standing and could wrestle, GnP.

I think current Charles beats prime Cowboy and Felder, but the rest are tough.
 
JonJonesNeedle said:
Charles is basically in his prime right now. Great grappler with nice striking. Gets dropped but comes back. Can sub you standing or on the ground. He's currently 32 I believe.

Interestingly a lot of fighters he has lost to were in their prime while Charles was relatively young. Curious on how Current Prime Charles does against the following fighters in their prime at 155:

Cowboy
Felder
Edgar
Max
Pettis

FWIW I believe he lost to Jim Miller when he was younger but then won the rematch years later when Charles was closer to his prime.
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I think he beats Cowboy and Felder but I think the others are a toss-up
 
After Oliveria's epic performance, I think it is time to bump this.

Prime Blonde Oliveria is beating fighters like Gaethje, Poirier, and Chandler, all of whom are as good as those who had previously beaten Oliveria
 
I now think that Blonde Charles beats all those who previously beat him.
 
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