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How do fighters get "sick" before their fights all the time?

Colds and many medical conditions are quite random.

Modern medicine has barely been a thing for a century there is so much we don't know. In 100 years it's probable our best physicans will be seen as well meaning quacks like the ones from 100 years ago are mostly viewed today.
 
Not enough trainy, eaty, sleepy.
That might work for Shogun, but different fighters have different approaches:

1) Bigfoot Silva "Pizza, Movie, Soda" approach:

2) Matt Hughes "Country Breakfast":

3) Overeem: "Eat 8 times a day until you're short of breath while sitting down":
 
We would need hydration tests week of, mandatory weigh ins during fight week and right before the fights. Beyond that we'd need a small allowance for fluctuations still. As for random weight checks outside of fight week, I'm not sure what you think that's going to solve...Pretty common fighters will put a good amount of fat and whatnot. Weight fluctuates a lot, fighters do drop weight during camp in a healthy and unavoidable manner sometimes too by virtue of diet and extreme training.

Just seems like a lot and there's still unanswered questions. Also USADA is a joke, nobody with a brain trusts them.

Simple choice: stay on irrational weight-cut paradigm, or don't.

Workable ideas:
Mandatory arrival 7 days before fight day, mandatory weigh-in every day before fight and at ringside.
Monthly weight checks outside of fight week have obvious purpose: establish true weight baseline.
The idea is to get fighters to fight at a normal healthy weight and body-fat percentage, to eliminate all the health risk that accompanies cutting.

"Its seems like a lot." Not to me.
"USADA is a joke." Okay.
 
Colds and many medical conditions are quite random.

Modern medicine has barely been a thing for a century there is so much we don't know. In 100 years it's probable our best physicans will be seen as well meaning quacks like the ones from 100 years ago are mostly viewed today.
Everyone is human and different of course, but i rarely been sick. I hit the gym and pool 5 times a week and when i catch a cold its bc of a stupid mistake and lack of attention. If i would have a fight i'd pay attention and i don't see how it can happen honestly. If i'm preparing for a competition i'm disciplined enough to not let it happen. I'm at the top of my shape and of course sometimes you feel better or worse without any reason, but the amount of fighters that get "sick" its almost unbelievable at this level...
 
Overtraining, weight cuts, rolling on the mat with sweaty herpes-infected dudes, there are lots of ways to get sick before a fight
Yeah that's how I got herpes too. At least that's what I told me wife.
 
I get why fans hate it cause it does only seem to happen in UFC and more and more you see fighters falling out right before fight, weigh in and even day of. I mean when was last boxing event the main event fighter pulled out day of? You dont see it.

But its not that difficult to see why as others mentioned here. They cut a bunch of weight, travel, media, you're around plenty of people and germs and you're body is already being pushed to the edge to cut weight, not hard to see why fighters will get sick during fight week.
 
A fighter can catch a virus or infection that debilitates them just before a fight and there doesn't have to be a reason for it other than bad luck. Even the hardiest humans get sick. Is normal.
 
You're making it sound like these guys are just chilling all day long and not working as hard as poor regular 9-5 workers. Being in good shape doesn't stop you from getting sick, and when you're always getting physical with multiple people a day, and spend all day on mats that had sometimes a 100 people pass through with their sweat and bodily fluids, it's much easier to catch something than working in a regular job. Then you say 'I get that weight cuts are bad...', but then you say you don't get it.
 
Simple choice: stay on irrational weight-cut paradigm, or don't.

Workable ideas:
Mandatory arrival 7 days before fight day, mandatory weigh-in every day before fight and at ringside.
Monthly weight checks outside of fight week have obvious purpose: establish true weight baseline.
The idea is to get fighters to fight at a normal healthy weight and body-fat percentage, to eliminate all the health risk that accompanies cutting.

"Its seems like a lot." Not to me.
"USADA is a joke." Okay.
Fighters are not paid to be on weight untilt he weigh in, you want fighters to be a ecrtain weight outside of that, you better be ready to pay them to be. They are paid to be on weright at weigh ins and then to fight that is it. If they are getting anything else outside of that, they need incentive and higher pay, plus then they'd have to pay for the etsters, etc etc etc etc.

Will never happen because they don't see a need for it, why spend all that money to have fighters be on weight, when they are already expected to be on weight?
 
The amount of weight being quickly is so extreme in some cases its a miracle MORE fighters don't get sick. STUPID weight cuts.
 
Weight cutting, traveling, training all take a toll on the body and USADA also apparently fucks with fighter's sleep while in training camp as well.
 
Fighters are not paid to be on weight untilt he weigh in, you want fighters to be a ecrtain weight outside of that, you better be ready to pay them to be. They are paid to be on weright at weigh ins and then to fight that is it. If they are getting anything else outside of that, they need incentive and higher pay, plus then they'd have to pay for the etsters, etc etc etc etc.

Will never happen because they don't see a need for it, why spend all that money to have fighters be on weight, when they are already expected to be on weight?

IMO, you're missing the point.

People live at or above normal weight. Almost no one lives at abnormally low weight.

It is entirely possible for fighters to live and fight at normal weight.
Instead, fighters live below normal weight and cut to extremely low abnormal weight immediately prior to each fight.

It has never made any sense to do it this way.

Fighters don't like to do it, but the unregulated rule structure allows fighters to cut weight and then fight smaller opponents.
This forces all fighters into the weight-cut paradigm: you either cut like everyone else, or you constantly fight bigger opponents.

If the UFC or any other larger fight promotion decided to lead the sport out of this unhealthy weight-cut paradigm, people would do it.
As a fighter, if you were given the option of cutting, or, fighting in a promotion that prohibits cutting, and if you were confident that other fighters would embrace the rules, and if you were confident that the rules would be strong enough to effectively prevent weight cheaters,
which would you pick?

It's a no-brainer really.
Set up a system to effectively eliminate cutting, publicize it, promote it, and enforce it rigidly.
People will get on board.
Fighters will discover that there is no benefit to living and working at abnormally low, or unfit high weight levels.
Examples:
Islam cannot function and succeed by living weak for years at a time.
Paddy cannot succeed by living fat and fighting fit opponents who weigh the same as fat Paddy.

Ultimately, the only disadvantage would be to fighters who don't stay fit, and fighters who attempt to live and succeed at abnormally low weight levels.
If you can't take the walk weighing more than your baseline weight range, there is zero benefit to living and fighting at abnormally low weight.

In a nod to the original topic, see my first reply on this thread:
if you want to, you can weaken your immune system.
Also - every fighter knows to be careful what they eat before a fight. Food poisoning 4 days before a fight will allow recovery by fight day, but you won't have 100% strength or cardio for at least a week.
If the UFC PI really poisoned a fighter, then they need to clean up their act.

I've had food poisoning 3 times in 57 years: once at home (chicken enchiladas), once from Boston Market chicken, and once from an Italian restaurant.
We rarely eat out. In 35 years of active cooking, we created food poisoning once in our own home.
Food poisoning is not difficult to avoid.
 
IMO, you're missing the point.

People live at or above normal weight. Almost no one lives at abnormally low weight.

It is entirely possible for fighters to live and fight at normal weight.
Instead, fighters live below normal weight and cut to extremely low abnormal weight immediately prior to each fight.

It has never made any sense to do it this way.

Fighters don't like to do it, but the unregulated rule structure allows fighters to cut weight and then fight smaller opponents.
This forces all fighters into the weight-cut paradigm: you either cut like everyone else, or you constantly fight bigger opponents.

If the UFC or any other larger fight promotion decided to lead the sport out of this unhealthy weight-cut paradigm, people would do it.
As a fighter, if you were given the option of cutting, or, fighting in a promotion that prohibits cutting, and if you were confident that other fighters would embrace the rules, and if you were confident that the rules would be strong enough to effectively prevent weight cheaters,
which would you pick?

It's a no-brainer really.
Set up a system to effectively eliminate cutting, publicize it, promote it, and enforce it rigidly.
People will get on board.
Fighters will discover that there is no benefit to living and working at abnormally low, or unfit high weight levels.
Examples:
Islam cannot function and succeed by living weak for years at a time.
Paddy cannot succeed by living fat and fighting fit opponents who weigh the same as fat Paddy.

Ultimately, the only disadvantage would be to fighters who don't stay fit, and fighters who attempt to live and succeed at abnormally low weight levels.
If you can't take the walk weighing more than your baseline weight range, there is zero benefit to living and fighting at abnormally low weight.

In a nod to the original topic, see my first reply on this thread:
if you want to, you can weaken your immune system.
Also - every fighter knows to be careful what they eat before a fight. Food poisoning 4 days before a fight will allow recovery by fight day, but you won't have 100% strength or cardio for at least a week.
If the UFC PI really poisoned a fighter, then they need to clean up their act.

I've had food poisoning 3 times in 57 years: once at home (chicken enchiladas), once from Boston Market chicken, and once from an Italian restaurant.
We rarely eat out. In 35 years of active cooking, we created food poisoning once in our own home.
Food poisoning is not difficult to avoid.

How do you prohibit weight cutting? No matter how you plan to do it, you will have lines in the sand, and fighters will take measures to stay right on those lines.
 
Overtraining, weight cuts, rolling on the mat with sweaty herpes-infected dudes, there are lots of ways to get sick before a fight

Yeah it's surprising so many get through camp unscathed i reckon, must be hell
 
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