how did the first place/group you trained w/impact your overall ground/submission/grappling game; what are the pluses and minuses that came as a result of it.
FOR me i started out w/a grappling club at U of H-it was taught by two blkblt judoka, who were blue belts in bjj; alot of the guys were wrestlers (hs champs/college/juco) or judoka, then there were guys who had all their exp at the grappling club meaning their whole style was built on their curriculum.
though submissions were taught, the instructors were very aware and well schooled, an the students were the same; but training there gave me some pos and neg
pos-really got good at maintaining top position, controlling takedowns, reversals/bridges, improved my def footwork/angles, allowing me to control/def takedown attempts and/or escape them. I also had to dev enough of a guard and def sub game from my back cus i was facing guys really good at getting the top position and maintaining.
neg-my off guard game suffered, coming from a nonexistent grappling background, i couldnt do a thing submission wise; an eventually just settled into reversing/ escaping/ etc to a better position. Had a hard time learning how to recognize and counter subs from the back cus so many guys were fighting for positon to finish, not actively doing so from their back.
i didn't notice it until i trained w/some straight up submission types or bjj types; who would transition for subs off of takedowns, i.e. i would score one and they would lock in a sub or they would fail on a takedown and transition to a sub. I wasn't used to that, i was used to a transition to another takedown off a missed td or someone wrapping up and then trying to bridge or rev when taken down.
that was something that stayed w/me for a few years; i was much more of a poor man's wrestler/judoka, w/mediocre submissions and guard work, in large part due to the fact i was training w/a majority of wrestlers/judoka
anyone else
FOR me i started out w/a grappling club at U of H-it was taught by two blkblt judoka, who were blue belts in bjj; alot of the guys were wrestlers (hs champs/college/juco) or judoka, then there were guys who had all their exp at the grappling club meaning their whole style was built on their curriculum.
though submissions were taught, the instructors were very aware and well schooled, an the students were the same; but training there gave me some pos and neg
pos-really got good at maintaining top position, controlling takedowns, reversals/bridges, improved my def footwork/angles, allowing me to control/def takedown attempts and/or escape them. I also had to dev enough of a guard and def sub game from my back cus i was facing guys really good at getting the top position and maintaining.
neg-my off guard game suffered, coming from a nonexistent grappling background, i couldnt do a thing submission wise; an eventually just settled into reversing/ escaping/ etc to a better position. Had a hard time learning how to recognize and counter subs from the back cus so many guys were fighting for positon to finish, not actively doing so from their back.
i didn't notice it until i trained w/some straight up submission types or bjj types; who would transition for subs off of takedowns, i.e. i would score one and they would lock in a sub or they would fail on a takedown and transition to a sub. I wasn't used to that, i was used to a transition to another takedown off a missed td or someone wrapping up and then trying to bridge or rev when taken down.
that was something that stayed w/me for a few years; i was much more of a poor man's wrestler/judoka, w/mediocre submissions and guard work, in large part due to the fact i was training w/a majority of wrestlers/judoka
anyone else