How could they mess up Terminator series like that

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Butchered beyond recognition.

I really loved the vibes of the first one. Action-horror. Myself and lots of people wanted Dark Fate to be horror again. But no.

Who knows, maybe they just cant do it anymore.
 
What do you mean?

There are only 2 Terminator movies and they're great.
 
Honestly, the story is over at the end of T2.

Why do you think Cameron himself never wrote a third.

Anything beyond 2 you could write was always going to be ineffective nonsense.

Fans dream of a third set in the future wasteland depicted in 1&2, but those scenes are so effective because they are just nightmarish glimpses of a future they cant allow to happen.

Theyre not meant to be fleshed out to a whole movie, itd be a boring, monotonous low budget scifi movie that wouldnt match the mindbending originals.
 
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Honestly, the story is over at the end of T2.

Why do you think Cameron himself never wrote a third.

Anything beyond 2 you could write was always going to be ineffective.

Fans dream of a third set in the future wasteland depicted in 1&2, but those scenes are so effective because they are just nightmarish glimpses of a future we cant allow to happen.

Well you could also argue that story is over at the end of the T1. Regardless of how good T2 was.

But in all honesty you can only go as far in time travelling movies. I think 4 in total would be good. But instead of Salvation I would follow events directly after the end of the 3rd and ending of the 4th could be beggining of the 1st causing loop which would make sense.
 
First 2 are a pair of my all time favourites. Love everything about them especially seeing arnie's sweet austrian piece in the first one.

I've tried a few of the new ones and havn't finished one, just trash. It is incredible how far they have fell.
 
Apparently Cameron (producer) and Miller (director) clashed a lot. Maybe that's why the movie stunk - too many cooks in the kitchen.

Terminator is in the same boat as the Alien franchise - watch the first two and don't acknowledge they made any more.
 
Apparently Cameron (producer) and Miller (director) clashed a lot. Maybe that's why the movie stunk - too many cooks in the kitchen.

Terminator is in the same boat as the Alien franchise - watch the first two and don't acknowledge they made any more.

Nah, I enjoyed first 4 Aliens actually. Anything past 4th was trash, Prometheus and the last one name I cant remember.
 
Nah, I enjoyed first 4 Aliens actually. Anything past 4th was trash, Prometheus and the last one name I cant remember.

You liked Alien 3, which basically rendered the 2nd one pointless in the first 5 fucking minutes? Everything after the first two fuckin stinks
 
It did no such thing

Hey Ripley, you know that girl you spent the whole goddamn 2nd movie saving? The one you put a Herculean effort into insuring her survival? Yeah, don't bother. We're going to kill her off pointlessly in the first 5 minutes of the sequel. You wasted your time.

Seriously, anyone who enjoyed the 3rd and 4th Alien has no right to complain about Terminator Dark Fate lol
 
Hey Ripley, you know that girl you spent the whole goddamn 2nd movie saving? The one you put a Herculean effort into insuring her survival? Yeah, don't bother. We're going to kill her off pointlessly in the first 5 minutes of the sequel. You wasted your time.

Seriously, anyone who enjoyed the 3rd and 4th Alien has no right to complain about Terminator Dark Fate lol

Difference is Hicks and Newts stories were over

They bring nothing to Alien 3
 
Difference is Hicks and Newts stories were over

They bring nothing to Alien 3

Imagine a female child on a prison planet full of rapists

lmfao

They didn't have to be on a prison planet full of rapists. It's a script - they can be anywhere or do anything they want. The stories don't have to be over, and if they are, they don't have to be throw away like a banana peel, killed off screen lol. Even Fincher wants his name off that stinker.
 
They didn't have to be on a prison planet full of rapists. It's a script - they can be anywhere or do anything they want. The stories don't have to be over, and if they are, they don't have to be throw away like a banana peel, killed off screen lol. Even Fincher wants his name off that stinker.

Fincher doesn't want his name on it because of studio interference

And to be fair the theatrical version is trash but its not because Hicks and Newt are dead
 
You liked Alien 3, which basically rendered the 2nd one pointless in the first 5 fucking minutes?

That was the best thing about Alien 3 bro. The sheer balls of killing off the love interest and the kid immediately and then dumping Ripley alone on a planet full of rapists. That's like some Dark Souls shit years and years before Dark Souls.

Besides Newt and Hicks were both lame characters anyway
 
Fans dream of a third set in the future wasteland depicted in 1&2, but those scenes are so effective because they are just nightmarish glimpses of a future they cant allow to happen.

Well stated.
 
The downfall actually started with 2

Corny jokes
Kid actors
overuse of CGI

First one had some cornball dialogue too, Cameron movies always have corny, on-the-nose dialogue

Eddie Furlong the goat

They didnt overuse CGI
 
Butchered beyond recognition.

I really loved the vibes of the first one. Action-horror. Myself and lots of people wanted Dark Fate to be horror again. But no.

Who knows, maybe they just cant do it anymore.

It wasn't that bad. The one with Khaleesi was much worse. Now if Arnold never showed up in the film then yes, it would have been abysmal.
 
Liquid terminator was the best concept. They just can't top it.
 
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