Law House Dems Introduce Bill To FORCE Schools To Allow Transgender Male Athletes To Compete As Females

The democratic party is an absolute joke. How they can be so focused on this type of idiocy is beyond imagination.
 
More virtue signaling from liberal politicians. These types of things are the reason why the Democrats are going to continue to lose.

In fairness, the dems did pretty damn well in the midterms and look at the new crop of progressives they voted in. I am left leaning, but today's progressive dems are way too far left for me.
 
Sherdog liberal checking in

Against this as are the rest of the liberals here

This isnt a grassroots movement that people are pushing for its coming from the top down

@NoDak

Tell this dude where the support for this shit is coming from

I've done that at least a half dozen times now and the message either doesn't get across or is flatly ignored. A lot of the posters on here actually don't make any sort of distinction, nor do they wish to. It's socially and politically convenient for them not to.

The LGB community needs to be more vocal

The tranny lobby has big time billionaire "philanthropist" and corporate (particularly medical industry) benefactors that have managed to co-opt all the major "LGBT" rights groups, dude. These are organizations with influence and pull in DC, we're just people minding our own fucking business. Over 50% of the "community" is essentially in the closet and not vocal - about anything at all.

It took decades upon decades (centuries in reality) just to not be criminalized, whilst these people are on the verge of smashing the meaning of biological sex into total irrelevancy within a couple short years. Does that add up to you?
 
Meh, yes and no. You, from what I recall, still deny that this gay/trans/pedo agenda has even been pushed upon us.

Nothing is being pushed on anyone. You make your own choices. Nobody is going to force you to turn your dick inside out and call it a vagina.
 
Nothing is being pushed on anyone. You make your own choices. Nobody is going to force you to turn your dick inside out and call it a vagina.
From just three days ago:
Five employees of Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) have quit a controversial NHS transgender-therapy clinic, citing fears that children are being misdiagnosed as transgender and given harmful and irreversible hormone treatments.

The Times. Each of them was part of a team charged with deciding whether patients as young as three should be prescribed hormone blockers to prevent the onset of puberty. The number of child referrals to GIDS skyrocketed from 94 in 2010 to 2,519 in 2018.

Later when patients reached age 16, they would be prescribed a regimen of sex hormones in order to develop the physical characteristics of the gender with which they identify.

The clinicians said they were concerned that the root causes of some of the children’s gender dysphoria were not being ascertained carefully enough before diagnosis and that they sometimes felt pressured to prescribe the treatment against their better judgment. They added that they suspected some of the youngsters were actually gay but had been victims of homophobic bullying.

One of the clinicians said the reason some clinic workers stayed in their positions was to protect children from inappropriate therapy.

Times. “I was there to protect children from being damaged.”" data-reactid="23">“I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger,” the staffer told the Times. “I was there to protect children from being damaged.”

Another staffer lamented that, “This experimental treatment is being done on not only children, but very vulnerable children.”

Over the past three years, at least 18 staff are have reportedly quit the clinic over similar fears of haphazard diagnoses of child gender dysphoria....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/employees-quit-nhs-transgender-clinic-203646280.html
 
You people do realize this is way more than just sports???

The Equality Act is about prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in:

-employment
-housing
-public accommodations
-public education
-federal funding
-jury system

Granted this may affect women's sports negatively if the interpretation is correct but there could be some exception to these rules and I do not see a problem with the current NCAA rules in this matter.

The current NCAA guidelines allow trans male to participate in sports as long he did not take testosterone related to gender transition then he may participate in men or women's sports. A trans female who is not taking hormones treatment related to gender transition may not complete in women's team (.... note by saiwa: and therefore is allowed to play in men's sports... if he wanted to).

So if this guideline is followed along all levels of sports where physical advantages matters then I have no reason to argue against this Act.
 
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From just three days ago:
Five employees of Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) have quit a controversial NHS transgender-therapy clinic, citing fears that children are being misdiagnosed as transgender and given harmful and irreversible hormone treatments.

The Times. Each of them was part of a team charged with deciding whether patients as young as three should be prescribed hormone blockers to prevent the onset of puberty. The number of child referrals to GIDS skyrocketed from 94 in 2010 to 2,519 in 2018.

Later when patients reached age 16, they would be prescribed a regimen of sex hormones in order to develop the physical characteristics of the gender with which they identify.

The clinicians said they were concerned that the root causes of some of the children’s gender dysphoria were not being ascertained carefully enough before diagnosis and that they sometimes felt pressured to prescribe the treatment against their better judgment. They added that they suspected some of the youngsters were actually gay but had been victims of homophobic bullying.

One of the clinicians said the reason some clinic workers stayed in their positions was to protect children from inappropriate therapy.

Times. “I was there to protect children from being damaged.”" data-reactid="23">“I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger,” the staffer told the Times. “I was there to protect children from being damaged.”

Another staffer lamented that, “This experimental treatment is being done on not only children, but very vulnerable children.”

Over the past three years, at least 18 staff are have reportedly quit the clinic over similar fears of haphazard diagnoses of child gender dysphoria....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/employees-quit-nhs-transgender-clinic-203646280.html

That's not in the US. If it's true it's scary though, patients as young as 3? As if they have any clue about sexuality or gender at that age.
 
Trump should identify as a woman in the next election and become the first female president of the USA.

Donna Trump 2020! I'm With Her. Make Herstory.

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PC has gone way too far when an entire political party and 3 of its opponents are afraid to call shenanigans on obvious shenanigans

When the feelings of an infantesimal selection size are more important than basic biology, logic, and common sense everyone needs to take a step back from the crowd and gain a balcony perspective

This shit is nuts
 
PC has gone way too far when an entire political party and 3 of its opponents are afraid to call shenanigans on obvious shenanigans

When the feelings of an infantesimal selection size are more important than basic biology, logic, and common sense everyone needs to take a step back from the crowd and gain a balcony perspective

This shit is nuts
I dont believe it's even feelings of an infinitesimal selection size. Their "identity" has been highjacked and weaponized.
 
#war on women

The left doesn't want women to have their own sports, their own bathrooms, their own rape shelters, their own jails. Imagine being a woman forced to share a jail cell with a male rapist. It's already happened.

Men and women will eventually just be gender name changes.
 
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You people do realize this is way more than just sports???

Uh, yeah. The problem is that it also redefines the definition of "sex" to include gender identity in the federal code.

The rub is mostly to do with public accommodations and unfettered access into exclusively female spaces based on a mere sense of identity. I don't view M2F/F2M as actual females and males, nor does the scientific reality. Perhaps a compromise could be reached in this area if it applies strictly to post-reassignment surgery because that is the only way it could seem even remotely logical.

Me, nor any of the gays, lesbians and bis I know, have the faintest idea where the T+rest of the alphabet came from after LGB. Not. A. Clue.

Edit: I in no mean wish to suggest I represent the LGB-community at large, but still.

@NoDak

Tell this dude where the support for this shit is coming from
The LGB community needs to be more vocal

The trans thing started getting a forcible push in the US circa ENDA bill exclusion controversy in 2007/08, well before it spilled out and over into the mainstream.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Non-Discrimination_Act

In 2007, gender identity protections were added to the legislation for the first time. Some sponsors believed that even with a Democratic majority, ENDA did not have enough votes to pass the House of Representatives with transgender inclusion and dropped it from the bill, which passed the House and then died in the Senate. President George W. Bush threatened to veto the measure. LGBT advocacy organizations and the LGBT community were divided over support of the modified bill.

In 2009, following Democratic gains in the 2008 elections, and after the divisiveness of the 2007 debate, Rep. Barney Frank introduced a transgender-inclusive version of ENDA. He introduced it again in 2011, and Sen. Jeff Merkley introduced it in the Senate. On November 7, 2013, Merkley's bill passed the Senate with bipartisan support by a vote of 64–32. President Barack Obama supported the bill's passage, but the House Rules Committee voted against it.

I was in my late teens but personally remember it, a lot of people were (and are) very resistant to such strong conflation between sexual orientation and gender identity, probably because they're fundamenally different things.

John Aravosis in particular penned an article on Salon back then openly asking what the hell he has in common with a man who wants to mutilate his genitals, surgically construct an artificial vagina, and live as a woman. He was eviscerated for it, and it marked the beginning of the whole silencing mob mentality.

Have you seen by chance, what they've done an untouchable athlete-activist LGB icon in Martina Navratilova? There's resistance popping up everywhere.

Transgenderism Is Just Big Business Dressed Up In Pretend Civil Rights Clothes
It’s hard to imagine a civil rights movement so indelibly tied to the capitalist marketplace that it could be used to sell fashion, makeup, hormones, surgery, cosmetology services, movies, TV series, mental health treatment, and women’s underwear, while concurrently being invested in by billionaire philanthropists, the technology and pharmaceutical industries, and banks.

Imagine marketing a suffragette diet of fasting, or makeup so perfect it could cover a welt from police brutality? Imagine Google and Wells Fargo investing millions of dollars to eliminate the prison industrial complex?

Transgenderism, a purported civil rights movement, now intersects at every juncture of the global marketplace. It is hard to remember it came out of the medical industrial complex as a term for the most intense body dysphoria. Children are being prescribed puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, sterilized, and groomed into lifelong medical patients and consumers in more than 50 U.S. gender clinics that weren’t here ten years ago. It’s all because of transgenderism and that people fighting to live free of discrimination are hailed as heroes and celebrities for feeling alienated from their own biology.

What are we to make of this cultural storm that has transgenderism positioned as a social justice movement, a medical condition with ties to Hollywood as strong as those to the medical industrial complex, and to our political structure driving its ideology through all our institutions? The media keeps presenting us on the one hand with a trans civil rights movement for the oppressed and, on the other, with a cutting-edge (pun intended) lifestyle.

Transgenderism is looking more and more like Transgenderism™, when we look at the markets opening and its insidious presence in Hollywood. Whoopi Goldberg has started her own trans modeling company on Oprah’s Oxygen network, with trans models reported as the future of modeling. Supernatural Extraterrestrial and Co, a high-fashion clothing line, promotes their willingness to embrace a future of male pregnancy. A look at their new clothing line for 2019 has men strutting fashion runways in pregnancy prosthesis.

Trans celebrities are on constant display in the media, being celebrated as if having body dysphoria were a badge of honor. Cosmopolitan magazine offered a breast-binding guide for young women in 2016. Cosmetology consultant services are a growing business offering help to “trans women.” Crayola has created a new gender-fluid make-up, and Jecca has started a line just for “transgender” people.

Artists are photographing young “trans” children, and almost every new TV series has at least a nod to transgenderism. Jazz Jennings, a male teen who recently had his penis surgically removed, identifies as a transgender woman and has been on many major talk-shows since his family decided he was transgender at the age of four.

Jennings has his own reality TV series, chronicling his transition and how it is affecting him and his family. He also has his own trans foundation and has received many awards and accolades. A children’s storybook about his life, which normalizes for young school children the idea that they can become the opposite sex, has been adopted as part of some school curriculums.

TomBoyX is a woman’s undergarment company. It uses the term “tomboy” in its company name to denote a girl who enjoys so-called stereotypical boy activities like running and climbing trees to sell boxer shorts and comfortable underwear to women. Their message is of empowerment, not being hemmed in by feminine attire, but able to run and feel free “like a boy,” by donning clothes like his, but made for a woman’s body. In a recent ad they chose an attractive young woman with double mastectomy scars donning their boxers under a caption that reads: “This canvas was given to you but you made it your own. You crafted your own story. Share it with the world. #moretome.”

This message is a clear glorification of chosen body disfigurement posing as self-actualization and liberation, sickness as wellness, self-hatred made into empowerment, and cutting and maiming female flesh for public consumption via uber-marketing. George Orwell must be turning over in his grave with the language of doublespeak as prime-time advertisement.

It is not just the pharmaceutical giants, the IT industry, fashion houses, Hollywood, and artists melding themselves to everything trans. Banks and investment housesare sending millions of dollars to transgender organizations all over the globe.

Men at the highest echelons of society—such as billionaire philanthropist Jennifer Pritzker and the creator of SiriusXM Satellite Radio, Martine Rothblatt—are claiming not just a transgender identity, but for Rothblatt, that of a transhumanist as well. Rothblatt believes “transgenderism is the onramp to transhumanism,” the precursor to superhumans.

If you look at the way transgenderism presents in the marketplace, it seems very much like an ad campaign for changing human biology toward making better, “liberated,” “self-generated” individuals, while being tied to the medical industrial complex. Rothblatt’s book, “From Transgender to Transhumanism,” reads like a blueprint for the modern-day trans project to infiltrate every sector of our societies. If that sounds preposterous, scientists are already looking at changing our biology as a way to deal with climate change.

This is happening at a time in our history when the escalation of robots and artificial intelligence are also surging in the marketplace with female-simulated robot sex dolls that are frighteningly close in texture and appearance to real humans acting as stand-in prostitutes in brothels, and for some men, stand-in women in relationships. Robot nannies that supposedly offer guidance and friendship for children while their parents are away, are being marketed by Mattel and other corporations as “the future of raising children.”

At Goldsmiths University in the United Kingdom, an annual conference, Love and Sex with Robots, holds sessions on humanoid robots and robot emotions and personalities, in a range of approaches from the psychological to the sociological and the philosophical. Robot experts project we will be marrying robots by 2050. A quick perusal of YouTube under “robots and humans” will yield in the neighborhood of five million videos.

So while transgenderism removes us from our very biology, we spend more and more time online and engaged in technology than with most of the people we know. For many, sexuality is becoming more and more unmoored from actual intimacy through hook-up culture, porn, and now the advent of robotic sex dolls. We are also being groomed for greater relationships to robots, surveillance, and artificial intelligence.

Rothblatt joined Whoopi on “The View” in 2016 to discuss transhumanism and exhibit a robot made in the likeness of his wife, Bina. Bina, he insists, will live indefinitely when he figures out how to download her personality into cyberspace.

Although transgenderism is positioned under the LGB civil rights banner, it appears to have a much closer relationship to commerce and global powerbrokers who have a penchant for technological megalomania. There is plenty of money flowing to transgender organizations, but even more going to normalizing transgender ideology in the culture, in language, through media, marketing, and commerce, and by billionaires’ philanthropic funding of nonprofits and other institutions.

One has to wonder if the LGB civil rights banner has not just been strategic positioning for transgenderism to claim civil rights, currying popular sympathies already well cultivated for the LGB community, as a pretext to insert itself into the global marketplace, our schools, universities, courts, and medical establishments for more nefarious purposes.

Whether transgenderism is presented as intense body dysphoria, sexual-fetishization, social contagion, a civil rights movement, or cultural gender-bending that speaks the language of the progressive left while actually cementing gender stereotyping, being hyper-capitalistic and censorious, as a project it seems poised to normalize human biology-shifting through chemicals and surgery.

Far from a grassroots movement born from oppression, it is generated by the highest echelons of society and attempts to linguistically obfuscate its aim of creating an abstraction out of biological reality. Transgenderism seeks to dissociate people from their very bodies, and frames it as self-actualization. The trans lobby is fighting hard to change sex on birth certificates. Only a few states don’t allow people to change their sex on their birth certificates.

We need to look at what transgenderism does, how it functions, and how it is growing in the culture, and to ask why it does what it does, what it is asking of us, why it is so tightly wedded to commerce, and where it is leading. The trans lobby screams civil rights, but transgenderism looks and functions just like the worst of capitalism.
NR: Bipartisan Women’s Rights Groups Protest the Equality Act
The Equality Act — which would amend civil-rights legislation to explicitly include “gender identity” as a protected characteristic and mandate all federally funded entities to interpret sex as “gender identity”– is on the House’s agenda. It will likely pass.

“Gender Identity” is the gender or sex one feels oneself to be. Perhaps because of the ideology’s internal incoherence, the ramifications of legally enshrined “gender identity” are poorly understood. Media spin, activist studies, pseudoscience, and the conflation of “gender identity” with sex and sexual orientation have confused the matter.

What are the connotations of the phrase “gender identity,” which the Equality Act would enshrine in the U.S. Code? To a conservative, it might mean something vague relating to bathrooms and pronouns. To a liberal, it might imply opposition to bigotry. But there is a growing movement, spanning left and right, of people who understand that gender-identity ideology poses harmful consequences for women and children. They are now putting aside their political differences and joining forces...

PD: The Many Harms of Gender Identity Laws: A Mother of a Trans-Identifying Teen Speaks Out
All people should be protected from harassment and harm, no matter how they identify. But we as a society must be allowed to reasonably act on the basis of sex when medical treatment, privacy, and safety are at stake. If “gender identity” becomes a protected class, women and children are the ones who will suffer most.

The Equality Act (H.R.2282, S.1006) proposes to redefine sex across all federal laws and add “gender identity” to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as a prohibited category of discrimination in public spaces. Assuming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi keeps her promise, the Equality Act will soon be voted on in the House of Representatives. If it were to pass there, and were ever passed in the Senate and signed into law, it would cause great harm.

“Gender identity” is a term that refers to how people choose to identify themselves based on their feelings. There is no test to determine one’s gender identity; it is simply asserted. Novel gender identities, such as “transgender” or “nonbinary,” have become shockingly common, especially among young people. Unlike protected classes such as race and sex, “gender identity” has no basis in material reality. There is no science to prove its existence. Yet a rapidly increasing number of states and municipalities have passed laws to prohibit discrimination on the basis of one’s self-asserted, subjective, unprovable “gender identity.”

While laws protecting “gender identity” sound fair and may be well-intentioned, the unintended harms that they cause are quite serious. As the mother of a transgender-identifying teen, my concerns are personal.

What Gives The Trans Lobby The Right To Chastise Martina Navratilova?
Many of us have been waiting a very long time for ‘peak trans’ to be reached, and for liberals, faint-hearted feminists, journalists and politicians to break out of their cowardly complacency and face the reality – that extreme trans activism is misogyny. Perhaps peak trans may well have arrived, thanks to the latest valiant efforts of the trans bullies.

The latest target in the vicious and often violent war being raged by extreme trans activists is one of my all-time heroes – the world tennis champion and LGB rights campaigner, Martina Navtatilova.

Navratilova has been accused of being "transphobic" as a result of a tweet responding to a question from a follower about transgender women in sport.

"Clearly that can’t be right. You can’t just proclaim yourself a female and be able to compete against women. There must be some standards, and having a penis and competing as a woman would not fit that standard", tweeted Martina.

"For me it’s all about fairness. Which means taking every case individually… there is no cookie cutter way of doing things."

Sounds reasonable, doesn’t it? Except the problem is, nothing but total capitulation and self-flagellation is enough for the trans-Taliban.

Martina’s main accuser is Dr Rachel McKinnon, an academic philosopher, transgender activist and competitive cyclist who won a women’s event at the UCI Masters Track World Championship, earlier this year. McKinnon, who I will refer to as ‘he’ and ‘him’ as his behavior appears to me to be classic male machismo, demanded that Navratilova apologize and criticized the comments. Martina did apologize, and deleted the tweet, but this was not anywhere near good enough.

Not to be floored by a Twitter spat, Martina stood by her comments and said she wouldn’t be ‘bullied’ into silence. Realizing that McKinnon and his supporters were treating this hounding of her as a blood sport, Martina left the conversation, saying, "it seems to be my decades of speaking out against unfairness and inequality just don’t count with you at all", with McKinnon agreeing, saying, that Martina’s record of fighting for LGBT equality, "doesn’t change the fact that you did something very wrong today. Past good deeds don’t give someone a pass."

If anything gives us a clue as to the narcissistic element of the trans activist campaign it is this tweet from McKinnon:

"You… realize I’m a world champion trans woman athlete who happens to publish and speak worldwide on trans athlete rights… right?"

That is correct, dear readers. McKinnon did the, "Don’t you know who I am", to MARTINA!

At the age of 18 Martina became a refugee from the hell of Czech Communism, quickly rising to fame at the top of women’s tennis where she remained for 25 years. As soon as it became public knowledge that Martina was a lesbian, her sponsors withdrew support, much of the public, including tennis fans, turned against her, with her regularly being booed during a game. Much of the media turned on her. She was slated for having muscles, and the fact that she was strong and determined somehow became negative traits, attributed to her being ‘queer’.

For me and countless other lesbians of my generation, seeing Martina walk out onto the court at Wimbledon was the best feeling in the world. Suddenly there this woman who was immensely talented, a feminist, and even won the (grudging) respect of the men in the sport. I thought, "if she can do it after all she’s been through, so can I."

But none of this impresses McKinnon, who is not known for his generous response to those who question, however sensitively, any aspect of transgender ideology and associated demands. Take this article in which McKinnon explains how even people who are trying to be trans allies are getting it all wrong for not simply agreeing with him. McKinnon even has a series of videos explaining why he is entitled to compete in women’s races, despite the clear built-in advantage this gives him.

McKinnon identifies as a lesbian, teaches his students that he is one, talks approvingly of the cotton ceiling, says lesbians can ‘get over their genital hangups’ and ‘cope just fine’, and has called critics Nazis.

Fellow philosopher Professor Kathleen Stock says: "The reason I know that the academic world is a sexist one is that a natal female could never behave as aggressively online, misrepresent empirical facts to suit her purposes, or make such generally terrible arguments as McKinnon does, and still be taken seriously."

Finally, the world is waking up to the fact that the extreme transgender activists are nothing but men’s rights vigilantes, that hate women, but that unfortunately had the majority of well-meaning liberals in the palm of their hands. Never has any so-called social justice movement in the past commanded such authority and instilled such fear. Coming after Navratilova was one bad move too many.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...-wake-up-call-mainstream-gay-rights-movement/

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https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2019/2/04/were-counting-nancy-pelosi-advance-equality-act

CHAD GRIFFIN is president of the Human Rights Campaign. MARA KEISLING is the executive director of the National Center for Transgender Equality.

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I dont know what to do about it

This isnt an issue I want to burn political capital on nor is it the right hill to die on. I dont agree with republicans on economics but these democrats keep being goofy :(

Im glad you at least get that this isnt coming from normal everyday joes

But The normal everyday Joes vote these people in. This will not be tolerated by sane people. A lot of regular Joe's have actual daughters who will be affected by this
 
Men get raped in jail all the time. Time for some equality

That's pretty dark. I'm assuming you don't really think that, but it's hard to tell what anyone thinks about the sexes anymore.
 
Ive noticed this is a really common thing. If you and i are both liberal as the day is long and neither of us supports it why do they keep doing it in our names ? It makes people think we are cartoon characters and that none of our opinions should be taken seriously and it really kind of pisses me off.

It should. It's what happened with Trump. Republican voters had finally had enough with their party. And some blue collar dems joined them
 
But The normal everyday Joes vote these people in. This will not be tolerated by sane people. A lot of regular Joe's have actual daughters who will be affected by this
I know this is crazy conspiracy talk but, every day that some dumb shit like this comes out I swear they are trying to push everyone right.

Why, I dont know.
 
Transgenderism has a unique set of issues that homosexuality doesnt. Competitive athletics is one of the big ones. Maybe this is the mile sought after allowing gay marriage however gays marrying in and of itself isnt wrong.

If it ever happens that a female to male transition dominates a traditionally male space like the STEM fields or chess, Ill laugh hard. I hope the complaints fly in over that.
 
You people do realize this is way more than just sports???

The Equality Act is about prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in:

-employment
-housing
-public accommodations
-public education
-federal funding
-jury system

Granted this may affect women's sports negatively if the interpretation is correct but there could be some exception to these rules and I do not see a problem with the current NCAA rules in this matter.

The current NCAA guidelines allow trans male to participate in sports as long he did not take testosterone related to gender transition then he may participate in men or women's sports. A trans female who is not taking hormones treatment related to gender transition may not complete in women's team (.... note by saiwa: and therefore is allowed to play in men's sports... if he wanted to).

So if this guideline is followed along all levels of sports where physical advantages matters then I have no reason to argue against this Act.

Keep fighting the good fight. It’s about equality lol
 
My fucking face when women start to love republican men in droves
 
You guys don’t need to pretend to care about women’s rights lol you can just say you hate trans people or you think it’s weird or whatever.

I don’t really give a shit about high school sports so I’ll just stay right the fuck out of this one.
 
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