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Holocaust survivors

Possum Jenkins said:
That changes nothing. Jews are easily THE most successful ethnic group in the US by wealth, income, education, poverty, etc. They kick everyone's ass. Persians, Japanese, whatever.

So it is interesting that while they did experience discrimination in this country, post WWII, that's just about disappeared. They're pretty much considered another white sub-group like Irish or Italian. Discrimination against them is very scant and nothing close to systematic like it is for nonwhite minorities. In fact, they're extremely successful and privileged now.

Here's one of my favorite Jews (and I got a lot of them), Norman Finkelstein, keeping it real as shit on this subject, and some others.

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I think there is a useful distinction here. Jews no longer receive systematic discrimination in this country - what is often referred to as "racism" in ethnic studies classes. There is still plenty of anti-jewish prejudice (without digging into this thread, I bet you can find some in it or others like it), and even anti-jewish hate crimes, but jews are no longer excluded by the system as a whole in the U.S.
 
Kevin Rudd said:
I really fail to see what that has to do with recognising other groups as being victims. Yes what happened to the Jewish people was a terrible disgusting act and I don't think it is something that can be simply forgotten. But the amount of coverage gypsies, homosexuals, disabled people, Jehovah's witnesses etc who were also Holocaust victims receive is minute in comparison to that which is received by the Jewish faith imo.

Essentially there are various groups out there that are more or less the forgotten Holocaust victims to a certain extent.
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The coverage is minute because the Jewish people were the main targets since the get go of the NSDAP movement. They bore the brunt of the persecution for over 20 years dude. Having your citizenship revoked, your businesses burned to the ground, and anybody who associated with you or married you was killed indiscriminately in the street or sent to a trial which was going to send them to a concentration camp to basically work until they die. And that's not even the worst of it. Jewish people are special within that era because of the sheer magnitude of the shit that they went through. Sure, others also were involved, no doubt about it, but not to the extent AT ALL that the Jews did. Not even fucking close.
 
In Israel we remember ALL victims of the Nazi regimn. Not just the Jewish ones even though the Jews were the main target for extermination.

There were gypsies, gays, communists and many more that were murdered.
 
o'dubhlaoich said:
Nazi's believe in a master race its hateful and wrong. Jews believe they are GODs chosen people. Thats accepted and preached by the masses. Seems legit.
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Good, now find me a religion that doesn't proclaim spiritual superiority of its indoctrinated followers. All religions are the same in this regard you hate jews for other reasons.
 
o'dubhlaoich said:
Nazi's believe in a master race its hateful and wrong. Jews believe they are GODs chosen people. Thats accepted and preached by the masses. Seems legit.
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That's a strong very generalization. You do realize Jews are an ethno-religious group, and not all Jews actually believe that (or even in God at all, for that matter), right? The Israeli Declaration of Independence does not mention God once, and many of forefathers of Zionism/the State of Israel were atheist (Theodore Herzl, Moshe Dayan, Yitzhak Rabin, David Ben-Gurion etc.)


Look at modern day Israel:

As of 2009, 8% of Israeli Jews defined themselves as Haredim; an additional 12% as "religious"; 13% as "religious-traditionalists" ; 25% as "non-religious-traditionalists" (not strictly adhering to Jewish law or halakha); and 42% as "secular."
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Bob Charlie said:
Good, now find me a religion that doesn't proclaim spiritual superiority of its indoctrinated followers. All religions are the same in this regard you hate jews for other reasons.
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No no no. The gentials (non jews) arent GODs chosen people. Just the jews.
 
o'dubhlaoich said:
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I guess my jews are gods chosen people comment was more directed towards the christian right and other jews that believe it.
 
How about discussing about the greatest holocaust of all time? Not gonna happen because indians dont own mass media.
 
o'dubhlaoich said:
I guess my jews are gods chosen people comment was more directed towards the christian right and other jews that believe it.
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As a secular Jew this "God's chosen people" thing always annoys me.

God, please go choose someone else for a while. The treatment we got from you so far sucks.
 
Zoti said:
As a secular Jew this "God's chosen people" thing always annoys me.

God, please go choose someone else for a while. The treatment we got from you so far sucks.
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Yeah right you guys control everything in the universe.
 
Scrody said:
You seemed to have quite the opposite viewpoint when you said Hitler didn't do anything wrong.
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You get dumber by the day, dude. Seriously, go back to school and get some education in you ya dropout.

HOLA said:
He seems to think the holocaust was because of Himmler taking advantage of a vulnerable Hitler, who only wanted peace, love and free death metal concerts for the Jews.
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Himmler was the architect behind the final solution....
 
o'dubhlaoich said:
Native America holocaust and theft of their land> Jewish Holocaust.
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Yeah, but America controls Hollywood and would never portray that in a serious way.

Oh no no sorry I got confused, it's obviously the jews.

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Jukai said:
Yeah, but America controls Hollywood and would never portray that in a serious way.

Oh no no sorry I got confused, it's obviously the jews.

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Who financed the colonial voyages, and voyages of exploration?
 
__Big_D__ said:
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You get dumber by the day, dude. Seriously, go back to school and get some education in you ya dropout.



Himmler was the architect behind the final solution....
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Lol these two statements in one post is just rich. Too rich for your blood. Haha
 
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