Holocaust survivors

[Zoti]

Hitler was deporting Jews to Palestine with all their assets prior to ww2. he wanted them out. the final solution (not killing them) was to be postponed until after the war. The Germans lost the war. The allies bombed the supply routes for months prior to discovering the work camps. Everyone in Germany was starving at the time and the work camps had the worst of it and were infested with typhus carring lice that the Germans could no longer contain. Conditions were horrible when the propaganda ministries of the various allied countries constructed the holocaust myth in order to justify the war. Remember folks, history is written by the victor.

So you were saying there were no death camps. It was all just disease and wasn't intentional? The gas chambers and mas gassing with Ziklon B didn't happen and so didn't the crematoriums?

6 million Jews beg to differ. Their surviving family members that never saw their parents and kids and siblings beg to differ. Including my own family members.

 

[Zoti]

I was under the impression that Hitler was growing so bold & so arrogantly confident that he could do anything without any repercussion where he went to extremes to demonstrate this to his enemies - I don't think his intent was fueled with a sense of urgency, but more so to strike & deliver absolute fear with an iron fist.

I agree with this assumption. The war went on. Germany was winning. They had the storm troops shooting the jews in the towns in the east and no one was saying a thing. People were co-operating with them. Then needed a faster way to get rid of the jews and came up with the idea of adding gas chambers and burning of the bodies.

The Jews were naive and didn't figure it out until it was too late and they were at the camps already.

 

[Bob Charlie]

Show me one piece of evidence of Hitler even mentioning a "holocaust"

All this debate about whether hitler mentioned the holocaust for the sake of maxiroid's poor reading comprehension.

Simply put the post never stated or implied that hitler used the word holocaust. It was referring to a narrative used to justify the events we call the holocaust. hitler's narrative, about the evil semitic money lending cabal bent on world domination through finance and racial dilution through sexing frau & the other tired babble that he used to take in a bunch of bigotty chumps. That same narrative is what he used to justify his actions against Jews which we today call the holocaust, the same narrative that holocaust deniers use as the bedrock of their (your) denial. That better? More easier for read?

 

[LionExMachina]

6 million Jews beg to differ. Their surviving family members that never saw their parents and kids and siblings beg to differ. Including my own family members.

Im very sorry to hear about your loss of family members. That kinda stuff can be hard to think about.

 

[Zoti]

Im very sorry to hear about your loss of family members. That kinda stuff can be hard to think about.

Thanks but these are people I obviously never knew. My grandmother, her 8 siblings and parents all hide from the Nazis in Budapest and survived the war.

My grandfather was forced to work for the Hungarian army. The nazis killed his parents a the Hungarians wanted to kill him. He was saved by the prison captan who told him he had many Jewish friends before the holocaust. My grandfather tried to find him after the Russians came into the city but was unsuccessful.

My other grandfather was imprisioned by the Japanese for a year because he was Russian. They were living in Manchuria (north china) when the Japanese invaded. He will not talk about his time in prison. They were as bad as the Nazis.

I am not asking for any special treatment from anyone but when people wonder why Israelis don't eff about when it comes to security you should remember that the country was established by this generation of people.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Well he did mention in Mein Kampf that Jews were a parasitic race with no culture and no national identity who had no place in the society he wished to create. Basically, they weren't even worthy to be used as labor. The Slavs would be the labor so the Aryans could reproduce and expand their territory.

He also permitted their killing and the destruction of their businesses before even implementing the final solution. What exactly are you looking for here?

sounds like how some posters here describe the palestinians.

maxroid, i appreciate you playing devils advocate and all, but why would the allies need the holocaust to justify the war? it was pretty well justified without it.

 

[Jukai]

Maxroider jumped thread pretty quickly. Shocking.

 

[weed]

^^ it's hard to heart to heart