Hillary Clinton unleashes on Bernie Sanders in new documentary: 'Nobody likes him'

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

A corporatist like Hillary doesn't like Sanders?

Im totally shocked...

 

[panamaican]

From Snopes:

Bernie Sanders was the primary sponsor of seven bills that were enacted:

• S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.
• S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other …
• S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
• H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.
• H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
• H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.
• H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.

Sanders has introduced 909 bills. 8 passed.
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For comparison with other 2020 Dem candidates:

• Warren has introduced 305 bills. 15 passed.
• Booker has introduced 269 bills. 12 passed.
• Harris has introduced 86 bills. 5 passed.

Just on a percentage basis, that's a very low percentage compared to the others. They're all hovering around 5% and he's at 1%. I have no idea how substantial those bills are, excluding the post office renaming bills.

I read the roll call amendment link from @TheGreatA but when I went into the Rolling Stones link from there, it stated that several of his roll call amendments were rolled back. So, does it count that you pass amendments if they're quickly rolled back before the final version of the bill?

So does that make HRC right? I confess to having never really looked at this aspect of any politician, not just Sanders.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I think he realizes to win the General he needs to unify the party.

And despite what Sherdog would have you believe Hillary still has a lot of supporters and many are salty about how 2016 played out.

Hillary isn't running against him so it's best to brush off her comments and keep focus on Trump.

 

[Sano]

I think it's perfectly fair and perhaps even a matter of fact to describe him as an ineffective and unpopular Senator.

As for accusing his campaign of being permeated by sexism, that is something that has been covered and discussed by other sources. Is it a harsh thing to point out? Not particularly. It's been discussed for quite a while now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-sexism.html

The idea that it's a personal attack is no different than any other political attack being personal. Bernie Sanders accused her of basically taking bribes from Wall Street by constantly bashes her for giving speeches. That's obviously a personal attack on her character, but that's just how politics goes.

I think people expect Hilary Clinton to be a punching bag, and they get really upset when she hits back. I don't see any issue with it.

You usually have good takes but this is off the mark. I don't particularly mind her attacking Bernie, or rather that it's to be expected, but she's been consistently hypocritical in all of her attacks. Also, insinuating that Bernie is a sexist because a staffer felt mistreated in 2016, which had absolutely nothing to do with him, is a very disingenuous. Especially given that his record on womans rights and support through the years is equal to, if not better, than hers https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-womens-rights/, https://observer.com/2015/11/why-bernie-sanders-cares-more-about-womens-issues-than-hillary-clinton/. Not to mention he is on record saying that a woman can be president 30 years ago. It's a complete nonstarter. She still blames Bernie for losing her the election and not supporting her, however a smaller percentage of his voters voted against her during the general, than was the case with her voters against Obama in 2008. Bernie campaigned rigorously for her, much more than she herself did again for Obama, and supported her after the nomination. She's continously said that democrats need to unite, and now she wont even commit to supporting Bernie if he wins the nomination? Something Bernie has said multiple time he will, regardless of who it is. She claims he never did anything, but what did she achieve in congress that was so great compared to Bernie? Who was on the right side of the issues?

Every single line of attack is jarringly hypocritical, or simply incorrect. When Bernie says that she has recieved large sums from wall street he is not being hypocritical, nor dishonest. Whenever Bernie goes after the other candidates, he always puts the policies at the forefront, to the dismay of many who wants him to be more aggressive (I personally don't). She clearly really doesn't like Bernie and has a thorn in her side, never taking responsibility for the errors of her campaign, and for losing the election. It's always someone elses fault.

 

[TheGreatA]

Alright gotta give Bernie props on the rebuttal

On some occasions he should probably fire back, but in this case ignoring Hillary and her remarks is the best option.

It's not in anyone's best interests to act like she's still relevant.

Just laugh it off and move onto present day issues.

 

[Amerikuracana]

See.. It's not about whether the people want him, it's whether he's in the "in group" in Washington. Bernie's recent loyalty to the party that shuns him is really the biggest turn-off about the guy. He can't win being that soft, kissing that much ass, and pretending Trump is the only problem with what has happened to him. He's kind of a POS with that.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

On some occasions he should probably fire back, but in this case ignoring Hillary and her remarks is the best option.

It's not in anyone's best interests to act like she's still relevant.

Just laugh it off and move onto present day issues.

Exactly, there is really nothing to be gained

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

See.. It's not about whether the people want him, it's whether he's in the "in group" in Washington. Bernie's recent loyalty to the party that shuns him is really the biggest turn-off about the guy. He can't win being that soft, kissing that much ass, and pretending Trump is the only problem with what has happened to him. He's kind of a POS with that.

Bernie a career politician - "Trump is an existential threat to every value I've ever held there fore it's best to team up with people who hold values closer to me than Trump to defeat him"

@Amerikuracana a pretend internet lawyer - "That makes Bernie a POS"

 

[Deleted member 159002]

I can't think of a single politician I "like." That said, Sanders has a certain quirkiness and genuineness that makes less him unlikable than most politicians.

 

[TheGreatA]

Just on a percentage basis, that's a very low percentage compared to the others. They're all hovering around 5% and he's at 1%. I have no idea how substantial those bills are, excluding the post office renaming bills.

I read the roll call amendment link from @TheGreatA but when I went into the Rolling Stones link from there, it stated that several of his roll call amendments were rolled back. So, does it count that you pass amendments if they're quickly rolled back before the final version of the bill?

So does that make HRC right? I confess to having never really looked at this aspect of any politician, not just Sanders.

It's still better than Hillary's 0 roll call amendments.

Sanders obviously occupied a fairly difficult position as an Independent, but did the best with what he got, in times when socialism was seen as a bad word.

In many ways he paved the way for modern progressives to be as successful as they have been, through decades of diligent work, in order to popularize that platform.

 

[Sano]

Just on a percentage basis, that's a very low percentage compared to the others. They're all hovering around 5% and he's at 1%. I have no idea how substantial those bills are, excluding the post office renaming bills.

I read the roll call amendment link from @TheGreatA but when I went into the Rolling Stones link from there, it stated that several of his roll call amendments were rolled back. So, does it count that you pass amendments if they're quickly rolled back before the final version of the bill?

So does that make HRC right? I confess to having never really looked at this aspect of any politician, not just Sanders.

So doing less work and introducing less bills is a good thing if it raises your percentages? He's definitely been way more active than the others, or at least for longer. More importantly I don't see how bills passed, percentages or absolutes, is the preferred metric without regarding the actual substance of those bills.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Bernie a career politician - "Trump is an existential threat to every value I've ever held there fore it's best to team up with people who hold values closer to me than Trump to defeat him"

@Amerikuracana a pretend internet lawyer - "That makes Bernie a POS"

I'm not a pretend internet lawyer. That would be a bunch of other people. When I become a lawyer, I'll let you know.

He has bowed down to the people that were caught red-handed screwing with his life and destroying his chances, but since he knows that party is what gives him his cushy life that has made it so he has never had to work, he stays loyal to it even after pretending to be an independent. He should have taken a stronger stand against people interfering in elections and rigging them, instead of joining those people in accusing Trump of doing what WE KNOW they actually did.

How is Trump an "existential threat?" Seriously.. Sum it up for me? Enforcing the border? Standing up to China? Are you going to make up some racism stuff?

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Just on a percentage basis, that's a very low percentage compared to the others. They're all hovering around 5% and he's at 1%. I have no idea how substantial those bills are, excluding the post office renaming bills.

I read the roll call amendment link from @TheGreatA but when I went into the Rolling Stones link from there, it stated that several of his roll call amendments were rolled back. So, does it count that you pass amendments if they're quickly rolled back before the final version of the bill?

So does that make HRC right? I confess to having never really looked at this aspect of any politician, not just Sanders.

This seems to be the overall rebuttal in regards to getting things done.



So the argument is, can "things get done" another way?

I have my doubts

 

[KeepItRealist]

A reminder that the DNC Chair told Bernie how Hillary's people had rigged the primary against him and he still went out and campaigned for her, knowing her to be so corrupt and anti-democratic. Bernie is worse, much worse than her

 

[IGIT]

If Hillary just mad Bernie is still relevant and she is not? I don't get the angle here. Either way its just sad.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cl...MXYCu49I8GG2KcgF0Vq6uT9qfV3_rqB7O7NCA_FsyC2lc

hello Lord Coke,

hmmm.

as Bernie himself said, "I’m not good at backslapping. I’m not good at pleasantries. If you have your birthday, I’m not going to call you up to congratulate you, so you’ll love me and you’ll write nice things about me."

it seems like what Mrs. Clinton is saying is being labeled politically incorrect.

- IGIT

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hillary Clinton calling someone a 'career politician' and talking about likability is actually fucking hilarious. This bitch might be the least self-aware person on the planet.

Seriously, this. Clinton is easily one of the least likeable politicians of this generation. As for her experience, what experience? Voting for the Iraq war in the Senate? Leaving a power vacuum in Libya so bad that open air slave markets emerge? Running guns to jihadists in Syria? That's what she's accomplished when given power, misery and suffering and death. She has no legacy, which is why when it comes to her experience people often point to the position itself rather than what she did with it because she was often disaster. Even Colin Powell, who considers Hillary his friend, said that her unbridled greed and ambition ruin everything she does. She's a snake in the grass and its no wonder that she's only reemerged to promote a documentary about herself.

I don't really like, either of these people but it's always confused me how some Bernie supporters froth at the mouth with the "HE'S NEVER CHANGED HIS MORALS!!!"

And I'm over here like "he's been preaching the same shit for near 50 years... maybe there's a reason no one goes along with it?"

What reason do you imagine Greg? Like perhaps the fact that he was a socialist during the Cold War?

 

[Gregolian]

What reason do you imagine Greg? Like perhaps the fact that he was a socialist during the Cold War?

I'm sure that's a part of it.

But at what point when you look at stuff he introduces even since then and the things that usually pass are renaming of Post Offices do you begin to wonder... maybe, just maybe, his ideas won't fly cause he goes too far to start

 

[Islam Imamate]

I'm sure that's a part of it.

But at what point when you look at stuff he introduces even since then and the things that usually pass are renaming of Post Offices do you begin to wonder... maybe, just maybe, his ideas won't fly cause he goes too far to start

Or maybe, just maybe, we have a dysfunctional Congress that will only pass bills of little importance like that one and that's not Bernie's fault.

 

[MVelsor]

Or maybe, just maybe, we have a dysfunctional Congress that will only pass bills of little importance like that one and that's not Bernie's fault.

When US Congress is getting things done, it's usually about rolling back the liberty, freedom, protections and privacy of the populace. It also probably doesn't bode very well for the socioeconomic interests and well being of the average American citizen. I'm thankful I am not that, and I love hydrocarbons to boot. Corporations have been writing the laws of this country for decades.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I am sure Hillary is still chafing and blames Bernie a lot for losing the election. And to be fair, he does bear a lot of responsibility.

You will remember in the primary, both candidates pledged to work hard to help the other one win no matter the results. But Bernie just folded up his tent and went home. When you have over 40% of the primary vote- that hurts. Deep down, he is a bitter old man.

Why do you say that when it is so demonstrably false?

Bernie did far more for Hillary then, for instance Hillary did for Obama, if we use that as the bar.