Hendo: Why win/loss is not everything

volcom5 said:
Sure, he’s getting closer to being a shit poster when it comes to certain subjects Jones, Fedor anything really PrideFC related. His takes on fighters “primes” and his molding of it to cope from the PTSD of his favorite fighters losing is the absolute worst it’s little sad that he hasn’t moved on after almost 20yrs.
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Nah, you're just obsessed with me for some strange reason
 
orca said:
did @browserjr really said gsp was undersized as a WW
in his era his literaly one of the biggest
lmfao
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Nope

Cleared multiple WW divisions as in he cleared it out multiple times. And TODAY is considered undersized cuz Sherbros think everyone in previous eras were midgets. He absolutely was a big WW. Which I say in this very thread OP

BowserJr said:
GSP cleared multiple WW divisions and is considered undersized for WW
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orca said:
you do realize gustafson and texeira alone whose not even in your top 10 are better fighters than hughes shields and the jon fitch in the world right?
thats crazy how jones competition was better
even brandon vera was way more complete fighter than hughes
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Did I forget to mention Glover? My bad


You do realize that Khabib alone is considered far better than anyone of JBJ wins and is not a complete fighters.

Well roundedness is more impressive IMO but there is no denying that elite grappling and mma wrestling in particular is one of the most difficult challenges to overcome. The best wrestler Jones fought was DC and he makes DC look like a midget. Huge size difference. Hughes and GSP were roughly the same size. Hughes is the #2 WW GOAT. GSP murked him twice after losing to him.

JBJ had to cheat to beat DC who he towers over.

Glover is equivalent to Shields IMO. Glover hit harder, obviously cuz hes bigger but Shields career was far more impressive. Fitch career is far more impressive than Gustafson too. He was on an insane run and was perennial #2 for far longer than hot/cold Gus.

Hughes and GSP were roughly the same size btw.

If Jones was about the same size as DC then his 1 "legit"* win over him would be the equivalent of GSPs wins over Hughes. Though GSP finished Hughes twice

And if you're gonna count tapping to strikes as some big knock then you have to count all the failed drug tests as a knock on Jones.

He didn't fail once or even twice... I lost count how many times he failed and hid from testers.

Meanwhile GSP has no wins overturned
 
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BowserJr said:
Cleared multiple WW divisions as in he cleared it out multiple times. And TODAY is considered undersized cuz Sherbros think everyone in previous eras were midgets. He absolutely was a big WW. Which I say in this very thread OP
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Another typo I bet? I posted your original posts, you’re the one editing posts retroactively when you get called out on it. At least have a little bit of integrity, come on man.
 
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volcom5 said:
Another typo I bet? I posted your original posts, you’re the one editing posts retroactively when you get called out on it. At least have a little bit of integrity, come on man.
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Says the guy that leaves out all context in order to make himself feel better about his weak arguments 🤣

Jones is a wife beating, ped cheat, who relies on decades old wins against aging fighters and his dick riders in order to make himself feel like an ATG without actually taking on challenges.

And no I will never claim you as my son. .. pretty sure those are the 2 things that have you so hot and heavy for me 😂
 
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honestly, i never give a shit about the record, because on any given night the unthinkable can happen.

also, how many terrible judges decisions?

all the damn time.

records dont mean shit.

records are for casuals who are into ESPN coverage of boxing and their wives boyfriends.

especially in MMA, that shit don't matter.

social media was a mistake. 100% of social media wouldn't even make it into a "ask the editor" section of a real magazine with thick papers and glossy images. fucking losers.
 
fzoid4454 said:
It was a size comparison, and then a competitive weight class comparison, to illustrate Hendo's size vs his competitive weight class. It made sense and was illustrative.
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It was a height/lenght comparison. Only a retard or a child would not understand that size doesnt equal height among male adults.

Lets compare the "size" of GSP and BW Cory Sandhaggen, who is actually taller, and pretend "it makes sense and is illustrative". No, its just stupid
 
mraa1 said:
It's fine, he wasn't being disrespectful, just wanted to illustrate how easily Dan could have made 170
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So GSP could have made BW because he is actually shorter than Cory Sandhagen or Suga Sean?
Its just a stupid and tipically shertard logic of size=height
 
BowserJr said:
Did I forget to mention Glover? My bad


You do realize that Khabib alone is considered far better than anyone of JBJ wins and is not a complete fighters.

Well roundedness is more impressive IMO but there is no denying that elite grappling and mma wrestling in particular is one of the most difficult challenges to overcome. The best wrestler Jones fought was DC and he makes DC look like a midget. Huge size difference. Hughes and GSP were roughly the same size. Hughes is the #2 WW GOAT. GSP murked him twice after losing to him.

JBJ had to cheat to beat DC who he towers over.

Glover is equivalent to Shields IMO. Glover hit harder, obviously cuz hes bigger but Shields career was far more impressive. Fitch career is far more impressive than Gustafson too. He was on an insane run and was perennial #2 for far longer than hot/cold Gus.

Hughes and GSP were roughly the same size btw.

If Jones was about the same size as DC then his 1 "legit"* win over him would be the equivalent of GSPs wins over Hughes. Though GSP finished Hughes twice

And if you're gonna count tapping to strikes as some big knock then you have to count all the failed drug tests as a knock on Jones.

He didn't fail once or even twice... I lost count how many times he failed and hid from testers.

Meanwhile GSP has no wins overturned
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by your logic dc wouldnt become a great fighter because of his height and reach disadvantage
and struve would be the GOAT because of his reach

and why would khabib be in this conversation?
the man has like 3 defences

theres no way a guy like k1 hughes is a better fighter than dc
imagine comparing jon fitch to the likes of trt vitor and complete fighters like glover😂

3 generations
matyushenko,brandon vera,bonnar
second generation
machida,shogun,dc,cormier and many more
3rd generation
santos,smith etc

we are literaly entering the 4th generation
when he fought gane and now tom 🤡
 
Comments crying about the inclusion of GSP and completely ignoring the point.
There was no slight being made to Georges, just acknowledging that another fighter of comparable size (he's noticeably bigger) fought everybody he could get in there with.

In today's landscape a guy the size of Hendo would be in the welterweight division everywhere but ONE.
 
pankrat said:
It was a height/lenght comparison. Only a retard or a child would not understand that size doesnt equal height among male adults.

Lets compare the "size" of GSP and BW Cory Sandhaggen, who is actually taller, and pretend "it makes sense and is illustrative". No, its just stupid
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By that same token, only a retard or a child would not understand that height and reach plays a very important part which is why there is the term height/reach ADVANTAGE.

furthermore its quite retarded to conveniently leave out the part mentioned where the walk around weight for GSP and Hendo was not that far apart. It wasnt even 10lbs iirc.
 
orca said:
by your logic dc wouldnt become a great fighter because of his height and reach disadvantage
and struve would be the GOAT because of his reach
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Except that is not my logic a5 all and nothing would indicate that unless you're grasping at straws. LOL
orca said:
and why would khabib be in this conversation?
the man has like 3 defences
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He's commonly put in the GOAT talks (I dont agree but many do)
orca said:
imagine comparing jon fitch to the likes of trt vitor and complete fighters like glover
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Im not making stupid comparisons. You are. If it looks like I'm doing that its only to illustrate how stupid your comparisons are 🤣

TRT Vitor v JBJ is not Fitch v GSP

It would be more like Gomi or Gaethje vs GSP.... sure they were/are top LW with KO power but its a gimme fight for GSP

orca said:
3 generations
matyushenko,brandon vera,bonnar
second generation
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You dont even know which fighters are of which generation HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
pankrat said:
It was a height/lenght comparison. Only a retard or a child would not understand that size doesnt equal height among male adults.

Lets compare the "size" of GSP and BW Cory Sandhaggen, who is actually taller, and pretend "it makes sense and is illustrative". No, its just stupid
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He mentioned reach once. He talked about WEIGHT a lot. "Only a retard or a child would not understand" that adult size would include a discussion about weight and weight classes, as well as height.

Did your tiny, tiny brain somehow miss this in the opening post?

"Hendos fight night weight at 205 has been under 200lbs many times, he was 199lbs when he faced DC. GSPs fight night weight at 170 has been at least 194 (Firas said GSP was 194 4 days before the shields fight, most likely he was bigger on fight night)

So basically you have two guys who are about the same size and one fought at 170 (no hate he should fight at 170) and the other fought at 175, 185, 205 and 265."

Seems to me that's a discussion about.... wait for it..... weight.

Not sure about why that triggered such rage in you, but, maybe that's because you're a jackass.
 
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