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Media Heavyweight Jon Jones Fight week picture

icemun said:
The disparity is not from Jones fans/ haters

Its between people who have trained and those who havent/ couch potatoes.

Putting on 20 lbs of efficient mass particularly for cardio intensive endevour is simply fucking hard, especially over 30.

People who think its easy, or the results present bodybuilder physiques, are literally on their couches eating cheetos playing video games in their free time totally ignorant of athletics.
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Yes, especially since he was always in some training, powerlifting, he reached his natural muscle mass. He could have taken some cycles while out of testing pool (he looks huge on some pics from before during his powerlifting sessions), but from his lean LHW 220lb, to go to 250lb without gaining at least 50% of that weight in fat is impossible naturally. And it does not matter performance wise, he would probably do better at leaner 240lb or so, he has enough strength anyway.
 
icemun said:
Why didnt you answer the second question. Who were these successful fighters that added mass, moved up an achieved gold at championship level? You said everyone? Be specific. Who?

Francis and Jones was the ONLY fight on the table for Jon. He wasnt fighting for anything other than the belt and Francis walked after two years.
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Wait what? Why didn't he fight Francis then? That was the fight to make and Francis went after it hard. Dana went after it hard. There's plenty of evidence and sources for that.

You trying to turn it around on Francis is actually disgusting. Spreading lies.
 
icemun said:
The disparity is not from Jones fans/ haters

Its between people who have trained and those who havent/ couch potatoes.

Putting on 20 lbs of efficient mass particularly for cardio intensive endevour is simply fucking hard, especially over 30.

People who think its easy, or the results present bodybuilder physiques, are literally on their couches eating cheetos playing video games in their free time totally ignorant of athletics.
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Thank you! I would add 20lbs effective mass in 3 years is not just simply fucking hard it is not possible for a mature USADA tested athlete. Jones just said he thinks he will weigh in 245-250 with no abs, no cutting. His walk around weight at LHW was around 235 so he really hasn't added any crazy weight that would have a significant impact on his speed, cardio, etc. He will just be full strength in the fight against Gane's fake natty, overly bulky physique
 
JustOnce said:
But after three freaking years? Three years he said he was bulking up proper. Three years.
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He's 35, unless he's juicing he is not putting on a lot of muscle regardless of how many years he has to do it, and I'm sure he wouldn't risk taking anything at this point
 
13Seconds said:
Wait what? Why didn't he fight Francis then? That was the fight to make and Francis went after it hard. Dana went after it hard. There's plenty of evidence and sources for that.

You trying to turn it around on Francis is actually disgusting. Spreading lies.
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Francis himself said he turned down a very generous contract UFC offered "due to terms" You are the one disgustingly spreading lies without even bothering to do any research.
 
Jonesisnatural said:
Oh I think very low of Jones as a person
I find his persona both extremely disturbing and hilarious at the same time
But
I know he is the best. It's his wack ass mind too combined with his physical tools. Nobody has a higher fight IQ. Not gsp, not khabib, not DJ. It's this fuck up haha. I also love to root for the guys people hate. Like Tom Brady is my boy
I just also know everything he does is EXTREMELY calculated. Like he gives off Patrick Bateman vibes. No move is without purpose. So he's a joy to watch.
Plus watching his rise as a kid and watching him destroy everyone's favorite fighters (including mine) was a sight to behold
No hate here. Can't tell if sarcastic or not but not trying to be a dick on purpose, just passionate about several of these topics
<RomeroSalute>
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Wait what? Calculated? Im sure you're strictly talking about inside the cage right?

Since you mentioned Bateman it also seems like you're talking about Jones being calculated outside of it too, which is just hilarious. Jones outside the cage is the dumbest clumpiest wreckless mofo you'll ever find.
 
SkinnyClaw said:
He's 35, unless he's juicing he is not putting on a lot of muscle regardless of how many years he has to do it, and I'm sure he wouldn't risk taking anything at this point
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We will see how it looks, looks aren't everything so.
 
Cartiac said:
Francis himself said he turned down a very generous contract UFC offered "due to terms" You are the one disgustingly spreading lies without even bothering to do any research.
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How long have you followed this sport? If you were around when Francis won the belt and the whole Jon Jones drama surrounding it, and then wrote that response to me, then you're just a shameless cunt tbh.

I cant imagine being a Jon Jones fan but that's okay, but atleast have some dignity with the facts.
 
dominion said:
To be fair he never had the genes for good aesthetics. Not even on the sauce.
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I disagree. He looks phenomenal at LHW.

Maybe not good aesthetics in the body building sense for other men. But for looking attractive with a lean functional body which is good for sport and women would like?
He has a great physique
 
Siver! said:
GSP retired, he didn't take years out to bulk up, LOL.

Jon Jones would have more credibility if he'd retired, too.

Instead he needs precisely 12 times longer than Jailton Almeida to move up a weight class?

Jailton Almeida took 3 months between the Maques fight (205) and the Porter fight (265), and competed TWICE in BJJ in between, and that's only according to what Tapology notes.

What warrants the 12-fold time elapse, other than notions of 'Francis wouldn't fight him' and other sheer fantasy?
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Why is everyone bringing up Almeida?
He might have better genes but I’m pretty sure that guy is juicing. Plus he is light for a HW and hasn’t fought anyone relevant
 
13Seconds said:
Wait what? Calculated? Im sure you're strictly talking about inside the cage right?

Since you mentioned Bateman it also seems like you're talking about Jones being calculated outside of it too, which is just hilarious. Jones outside the cage is the dumbest clumpiest wreckless mofo you'll ever find.
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I'm talking training and mma only lol
Yes he is the complete opposite outside of competition it's amazing
 
Jonesisnatural said:
I mean what did you expect, spartan abs and a Francis ngannou like physique?
I love the argument against Jones for goat or p4p (I personally have st Pierre as goat) because he failed drug tests
Okay let's assume he's still using (most likely, he said he was benching teh 502 or something for a one rep max, nobody is pushing 500 pounds naturally, I don't care who you are lol) what does that say about gane, Francis and all the others coming out like bodybuilders?
Do you fools realize how hard it is for pure bodybuilders to even look like that? Let alone adding in a full mma training schedule that isn't remotely focused on bodybuilding?
The word rhymes with noose
everyone is on gear legalize gear 2k23
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People are definitely 1 rep maxing 500lbs naturally, maybe not long armed skinny claws like Jon but come on with that.
 
LOL
For years people claimed JBJ was avoiding his real weight class HW and was a huge LHW.
I guess we can put that to rest
 
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