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[icemun]

Use your brain sherbro.
I'll break it down for you
What does muscle mass take? Blood. What does blood do? flow.
What does blood flow take? Oxygen
What does fat take?
Absolutely nothing, it's dead weight.
Look at Cain.
Look at DC
Both had phenomenal cardio
They didn't need to fuel unnecessary muscle mass that didn't benefit their fight style. Yet they carried fat that was used as a tool to impose weight on their opponent.
Doubt either were natural, but for the sake of devil's advocate, let's say they were.
Jones style is very flowly. He's constantly in motion. He also needs to be able to engage in grueling grappling with fast timing to counter all the fast twitch gane presents.
Tldr
It makes no sense for Jones to go full picto and become a body builder at this weight class.

Fair assessment

But GSP was one the most jacked fighters ever and he never lifted weights?
He never failed the available tests, but....

 

[dominion]

To be fair he never had the genes for good aesthetics. Not even on the sauce.

 

[JustOnce]

Dude's who have NEVER worked out.

This is the USADA era

Fighters are relegated to whey protein, creatine and maybe picos of steroids at most.

The days of HORSEMEAT HW gainz are GONE

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Not that it's important, but I'm fairly certain that's a pic of Overeem after pissing hot.

This is Ubereem.

 

[Jonesisnatural]

Fair assessment

But GSP was one the most jacked fighters ever and he never lifted weights?
He never failed the available tests, but....

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Oh he definitely wasn't natty lol
But I believe everyone uses/used and think it should be embraced and have no negativity surrounding it

 

[icemun]

What happened in pre-USADA days is irrelevant.

Jones doesn't look like Overeem, and never will, nobody ever will, it's not a natural physique.

But fighters routinely operate at LHW and HW post-USADA and don't need 3 years in absentia 'to bulk up'.

It's ridiculous.

Well a couple factors here.

1) they couldnt come to terms with Francis. They worked on it for almost two years before Francis walked.

2) What undefeated fighters are you referring to that bulked up and continued their success in a higher weight class ?

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Are you incapable of reading words?
I literally just said why lol
His bulking process, combined with personal issues and negotiations.
He's been ready to fight for awhile now. So it didn't take 3 years either.

Nothing in your response to me mentioned anything to do with personal issues or negotiations.

And that's what I responded to, specifically.

All you said in response to me was a rambling diatribe about oxygen and looking at DC, who did exactly what Jon has failed to do (compete in 2 divisions).

If you think Jon Jones couldn't have easily competed at heavyweight, I'm calling bullshit on that. If you think it was a negotiation tactic, LMAO!!! His value was never higher than it was 2 years ago, but it's cute for a false defence.

 

[Draxton]

USADA is a bitch

That’s never stopped him before.

 

[Ornife]

Is that real?

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Well a couple factors here.

1) they couldnt come to terms with Francis. They worked on it for almost two years before Francis walked.

2) What undefeated fighters are you referring to that bulked up and continued their success in a higher weight class ?

Francis has nothing to do with Jon Jones and his ability to main event a card at heavyweight. That's obviously bullshit.

Your second question is irrelevant.

The implication of your second question is that nobody should ever try anything unless someone's done it before, which makes zero competitive sense.

The real question is, what fighters bulked up in under a three year span and still won, in which case the answer is, nearly everybody that ever tried to bulk up lol

 

[Jonesisnatural]

Nothing in your response to me mentioned anything to do with personal issues or negotiations.

And that's what I responded to, specifically.

All you said in response to me was a rambling diatribe about oxygen and looking at DC, who did exactly what Jon has failed to do (compete in 2 divisions).

If you think Jon Jones couldn't have easily competed at heavyweight, I'm calling bullshit on that. If you think it was a negotiation tactic, LMAO!!! His value was never higher than it was 2 years ago, but it's cute for a false defence.

Tell me you have never tried to change your body composition in anyway without actually saying it
Everything I said is straight fact, not opinion.
The dude has hardcore personal issues, is a borderline psychopath, changed gyms, burnt out, wanted more money, ect. We are discussing his physique and the disappointment others are having with his appearance. I don't care about your theories

 

[The Analog Kid]

Huge if True
Herb Din Confirmed

You could have stopped at huge

 

[icemun]

Hes not fat or anything, but he looks exactly like he always did before cutting down to 205.

What exactly did he need those 3 years for?

Putting on 20+ lbs of clean mass and fighting with it in optimum conditioning?

Dudes think fighting is playing on their nintetendo or something.

 

[nately]

Is this real?

If so, the fight will be even easier for Gane than I thought. Jones looks like he's just coming for a paycheck. Maybe he ran out of money for his lifestyle.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

I know right? He sure sounded serious about bulking up right over these years to fight at HW...

We're just going to have to deal with the lies about "it took 3 years because no one would fight him/Dana wouldn't pay him" now that it's pretty clear nothing about his physical transformation warranted an absence of that length.

 

[icemun]

Francis has nothing to do with Jon Jones and his ability to main event a card at heavyweight. That's obviously bullshit.

Your second question is irrelevant.

The implication of your second question is that nobody should ever try anything unless someone's done it before, which makes zero competitive sense.

The real question is, what fighters bulked up in under a three year span and still won, in which case the answer is, nearly everybody that ever tried to bulk up lol

Why didnt you answer the second question. Who were these successful fighters that added mass, moved up an achieved gold at championship level? You said everyone? Be specific. Who?

Francis and Jones was the ONLY fight on the table for Jon. He wasnt fighting for anything other than the belt and Francis walked after two years.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Tell me you have never tried to change your body composition in anyway without actually saying it
Everything I said is straight fact, not opinion.
The dude has hardcore personal issues, is a borderline psychopath, changed gyms, burnt out, wanted more money, ect. We are discussing his physique and the disappointment others are having with his appearance. I don't care about your theories

I don't care about his physique.

He looks like a good, lean heavyweight.

That didn't take 3 years to achieve.

 

[Bradillac]

We're just going to have to deal with the lies about "it took 3 years because no one would fight him/Dana wouldn't pay him" now that it's pretty clear nothing about his physical transformation warranted an absence of that length.

So what do you think the reason is and what does it mean to you?

 

[textwarrior]

NO BODY SHAMING!

Hey, I am not going to laugh at a dude that weighs 260 Lbs,at that point your just a big dude.

 

[ineverpost]

NO BODY SHAMING!

he looks like the average UFC HW. Other than a handful of guys with action figure physiques, they are flabby.

 

[JustOnce]

We're just going to have to deal with the lies about "it took 3 years because no one would fight him/Dana wouldn't pay him" now that it's pretty clear nothing about his physical transformation warranted an absence of that length.

We will have to wait to be sure, I guess someone posted a screenshot from the side, and it doesn't look so bad. It could be lighting too, we will have to see. Doesn't look great though.