Law Headlining Crime V5

[Brampton_Boy]

Good to know that causing shit in a biker bar is the equivalent environment as being on the streets in Cincinnati, and that the bikers then started attacking all black people they could see and knocked out cold a woman trying to break up the fight or tend to the injured person. Oh wait .. none of that happened.

I appreciate some similarity, but nope, not equivalent events.

I wasn't attempting to draw an equivalency, the poster asked if there was a video of multiple white guys assaulting a black guy, and I pointed him to that thread.

My personal opinion is that all gang assaults are cowardly.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Uh, no it wasn't.


Either you're confusing me with another poster or you realize how stupid you look right now and are trying to back out as gracefully as you can. Clearly you just wanted to run your mouth and didn't think I'd ask you to back up what you claimed, which is how I initially figured it would go. Gave you a chance anyway. Oh well, shame on me for expecting better I guess.

Derp derp, yes it was.
Nope. Nobody is confusing you with anybody. Own your defense of criminal activity for one man, then grandstanding when "others" do crime.
Id figured you deplorables would put on your good guy white knight masks when threads for minorities attacking whites started to be made again.

 

[Koro_11]

Weren't you the FAFO guy when the black man was stomped in a bar?

Big difference is the guy in the biker bar didn't get stomped because he was black, he got stomped because he didn't pay his tab.

 

[Crazy Source]

I have no idea as to what the statistics of that are, I was merely commenting on the fact that there was a similar video.

My point is that people rationalized a gang attack due to the fact that the person in the video did not pay his tab. Either we universally condemn gang assault, or we allow room for context and rationalization.

Totally not the same thing! Got 'em brother. Well-played.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Another poster pointed out that video. I am saying it is so extremely rare. Black/white crime is ten fold what white/black crime and if this had been reversed, it would have been probably marches in cincy. And an entire era doesn’t make this ok. It was disgusting then and disgusting now.

There's a lot of lunacy tied to identity politics. Yes, there are shit histories and sad stories out there, and people should do what they can to fight injustice in the world, but the identity politics solutions are just so non-sensical.

It's such a bizarre pyramid of victimhood they have set up. Their philosophy will insist that an immigrant from the Ukraine escaping war, whose entire family got wiped out in Holodomor (the great famine) should pay reparations for slavery in North America and such or that they have had an easier life than someone born in the USA in 1990s.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Another poster pointed out that video. I am saying it is so extremely rare. Black/white crime is ten fold what white/black crime and if this had been reversed, it would have been probably marches in cincy. And an entire era doesn’t make this ok. It was disgusting then and disgusting now.

Its not rare. Especially when they get to walk free or it takes a grand jury just to bring charges.

The point about eras is for when people point to it being race or culture based and showings its one sided. Especially as they openly try to remove these statistics and facts from the history books.
Its silly to keep score. But if keeping score keep the whole score. Score or look at all crimes with that same lens.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

You're in a thread terrified of Blacks crying about Republicans. You're not very smart.

Who is terrified of Blacks? Sounds more like you& the typical morons who ignore violence in some threads then switch up their values when Blacks do it.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I wasn't attempting to draw an equivalency, the poster asked if there was a video of multiple white guys assaulting a black guy, and I pointed him to that thread.

My personal opinion is that all gang assaults are cowardly.

That's fair, it seems that details on the biker bar case may not have been as originally described - no idea where that case stands. It's definite lack of civility in both cases for what that's worth.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Weren't you the FAFO guy when the black man was stomped in a bar?

He said it was wrong but thought the bigger transgression was theft & "dA mEdIa" vs the almost deadly assault.
He didn't want to address or condemn that over the media or theft. You know prioritize the made up allegations and the news actually reporting facts & his phobia over a violent unprovoked assualt.

Now its time to change hats and condemn the provoked assaults. Values change based on who's doing the crime.

 

[Zoolander]

Who fucking cares! If the old man started and the other dude knocked him out and the fight ended… there’s zero issues.

Its reaction of the crowd and jumping in for a mob beating. And sucker punching an older woman? Who does that? Why?

And furthermore and more importantly… the compete ghosting of this story by the mainstream media. Are they afraid? Our media is completely failing the American people at this point.

We all saw how the media reacted when one kid minding his own business had the audicity stare down a minority who was in his face… they were all over that. Even making up shit to make the kid sound worse.

Front page news all over cable tv and online by the end of that day

But now? Crickets… even days later

One poster ITT even implied that whites should be more careful in these circumstance or risk being jumped. Lovely

Are you serious? This wasn’t a white couple walking through the ghetto at 2am starting trouble.

It was a city sponsered Jazz festival. A major US city.

Are we suggesting these should be no go zones?

Lol….

As I've said, I think what kicked off the physical violence is something that needed to be mentioned in the thread, and I felt that way because the thread title is misleading. Why that makes many of you so upset is beyond me, because I have not told any lies nor condoned what happened afterwards.

 

[koquerelle]

He said it was wrong but thought the bigger transgression was theft & "dA mEdIa" vs the almost deadly assault.
He didn't want to address or condemn that over the media or theft. You know prioritize the made up allegations and the news actually reporting facts & his phobia over a violent unprovoked assualt.

Now its time to change hats and condemn the provoked assaults. Values change based on who's doing the crime.

Not to me. I hate it when a group stomp on a man. This incident was bad and so was the one where the black man was stomped in a bar. You can kill a man doing shit like that. There's a difference between teaching someone a lesson and putting him in the hospital.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Big difference is the guy in the biker bar didn't get stomped because he was black, he got stomped because he didn't pay his tab.

The man in the biker bar allegedly didn't pay his tab. Others who were there claim the tab wasn't the issue. Regardless, he didn't initiate any violence. Also, there were clear racial slurs being used before and as he was attacked.

The man in this incident slapped someone, initiating the violence.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

 

[SurferH2O]

I've never been a fan of the term "Hate Crime" and making it a Federal Event, but those are the rules the Democrats set up. It's just a straight up Attempted Murder and that should be good enough. I do understand the Feds stepping in if Cincinnati is refusing to prosecute these scumbags fully. It's a damn shame the local leaders refuse to be stand up leaders. The Feds should never have to be involved.

 

[Koro_11]

The man in the biker bar allegedly didn't pay his tab. Others who were there claim the tab wasn't the issue. Regardless, he didn't initiate any violence. Also, there were clear racial slurs being used before and as he was attacked.

The man in this incident slapped someone, initiating the violence.

Any video of the slap?

Even if true, what initiated the slap?

A lone middle aged white man with no backup other than his wife just walked up to a group of black guys and decided to slap one of them? Likely story bro.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Any video of the slap?

Even if true, what initiated the slap?

A lone middle aged white man with no backup other than his wife just walked up to a group of black guys and decided to slap one of them? Likely story bro.

Generally there is no acceptable reason to lay your hands on someone in any manner that comes across as an assault unless it's imminent defense or some other crime is being committed. He likely had no good reason to slap the person -- probably a verbal argument escalating. And I don't see why it would be unlikely that he unnecessarily turned things physical, idiots do that a lot, especially at 3:00 a.m. after drinking. There's so much crime where alcohol is an element, it's crazy. Lot of people that quote crime stats going down it's the first thing that pops in my head -- it's not that we are overall a more civil society, just that more people don't leave their homes and younger people drink less alcohol than then previous generations.

 

[Blayt7hh]

What claim did I make that I'm hiding from you stupid little punk? I've never been cool with a sucker punch. WTF are you babbling about? Idiot.

However, you've come straight out and supported someone getting rat packed. Pussy.

The shit you losers make up is pathetic.

Yes I am fine with jumping him for throwing a sucker punch. You struggling that hard to put simple logic together? Yes, yes you are. Moron

 

[Blayt7hh]

There is the video that was posted a while back of a black guy getting beat up at a biker bar for not paying his tab. People on this same thread seemed highly supportive of that happening: I believe the thread summary could be characterized as "Fuck around and find out"

Yuuuuup. They don’t even see the contradiction

 

[Koro_11]

Generally there is no acceptable reason to lay your hands on someone in any manner that comes across as an assault unless it's imminent defense or some other crime is being committed. He likely had no good reason to slap the person -- probably a verbal argument escalating. And I don't see why it would be unlikely that he unnecessarily turned things physical, idiots do that a lot, especially at 3:00 a.m. after drinking. There's so much crime where alcohol is an element, it's crazy. Lot of people that quote crime stats going down it's the first thing that pops in my head -- it's not that we are overall a more civil society, just that more people don't leave their homes and younger people drink less alcohol than then previous generations.

Sure I agree with all of that and I certainly don't underestimate just how many stupid people there are out there.

That said, if the guy did indeed slap him it should have been settled between him and the man he slapped, and the half dozen other lowlifes who sucker punched and stomped him on the ground are inexcusable, as is the guy who punched out the woman.

Just pure animal behaviour, zero honour and pure cowardice, and I wish I could say that it's not common in that community and if it wasn't I would just see it as a bunch of degenerates and probably wouldn't even bother making a thread about it. But unfortunately it's way too common to ignore, it's a real issue with that shitty culture that needs to be addressed, this is behaviour one can expect from extreme outliers and sociopaths, maybe one exceptionally cruel person in a crowd of 50.

 

[SurferH2O]

Yes I am fine with jumping him for throwing a sucker punch. You struggling that hard to put simple logic together? Yes, yes you are. Moron

You and 5-10 of your friends. You're such a pussy. There was no "sucker punch".... it was barely a contact slap, but it was a line step. It did not warrant what happened next. You're a .