HBO - Chernobyl anyone?

[Cole train]

Just watched the first episode. Holeeeeeeeeeee shit this is good

it gets better

 

[Orgasmo]

Sorry, I hate people for the most part and have no problem with watching human suffering but leave the puppies alone.

Meh, I'd kill a thousand dogs if it saves one human life.

 

[Videer]

Meh, I'd kill a thousand dogs if it saves one human life.

 

[SamSchmidt]

Meh, I'd kill a thousand dogs if it saves one human life.

I think it's less than that they are just dogs. And more of the innocence of the dogs. I can relate to the Russian telling the kid it's different because in war the humans are shooting back at you and it takes a bit of the humanity out of it. But with the dogs they are purely innocent and have no idea why they are being slaughtered. It highlighted when he shot the one Dog once and he doesn't die immediately

 

[Yotsuya]

For me this lost a bit of pep after I read a debunk article. I actually thought after second episode, that some facts must be exaggerated, but the the show is so damn immersive, that I forgot about my doubts.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

I want to watch but probably won't because the subject matter is so depressing. I can't watch people getting radiation poisoning,their skin all popping out. Damn.

If you do watch it, just a heads up - the gory scenes are in episode 3, where you see patients in the hospital. And yes it is very depressing to watch.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Damn the rooftop scene with the stumbling liquidator-biorobot was intense.

This is the real footage of the roof top cleanup -

 

[SamSchmidt]

This is the real footage of the roof top cleanup -

I should like but also you need a dub. Damn that shit is hard to watch. Those Guys who volunteered for the swim are fucking worldwide heroes. Not just Russia heroes.

Could you imagine volunteering for a suicide mission?

 

[Hoof Hearted]

I should like but also you need a dub. Damn that shit is hard to watch. Those Guys who volunteered for the swim are fucking worldwide heroes. Not just Russia heroes.

Could you imagine volunteering for a suicide mission?

Most survived thankfully, as they were only allowed about 40 seconds of exposure (in the show it said 90 seconds for some reason).

 

[SamSchmidt]

Most survived thankfully, as they were only allowed about 40 seconds of exposure (in the show it said 90 seconds for some reason).

Yeah that shit is nuts. Speaking of nuts. Those men,have more nuts than I could ever dream of

 

[Yotsuya]

I should like but also you need a dub. Damn that shit is hard to watch. Those Guys who volunteered for the swim are fucking worldwide heroes. Not just Russia heroes.

Could you imagine volunteering for a suicide mission?

Two of the divers are still alive. One died of heart attack few years ago.

 

[SamSchmidt]

Two of the divers are still alive. One died of heart attack few years ago.

Yup I read that. Good on them. Heroes.

 

[EyeOfNewt]

Two of the divers are still alive. One died of heart attack few years ago.

The divers all died. The series is innacurate. The divers were soldiers and officers. The plant staff guided the divers as close as possible to the reactor and from then on it seems the soldiers went alone as they reached a point of no return. I wrote a post detailing this (based on accounts from two witnesses)

 

[LiLoMMA]

 

[TrumpSupporter]

Radiation poisoning is no joke.

radiation hasnt killed me yet. i counteract it with alcohol poisoning

 

[Yotsuya]

The divers all died. The series is innacurate. The divers were soldiers and officers. The plant staff guided the divers as close as possible to the reactor and from then on it seems the soldiers went alone as they reached a point of no return. I wrote a post detailing this (based on accounts from two witnesses)

Link?

 

[MikeMcMann]

Killing the pets was necessary though. You don't want mutant off spring contaminating healthy populations.

No, the physicist calculated how long they can be on the roof without a lethal dose (probably not even a dose which would lead to other illness either.)

I'm going to take a slightly different tact on this which will likely get people reacting very negatively.

My tact, despite being an animal lover would be to allow animals to flock in and exist in whatever form that takes without man interfering to help absorb and dissipate the radiation quicker.

Wait? What? Isn't that horrible and cruel?

No, animals do not know what there life should look or feel like without radiation. They do not have an expected lifespan. They just live, until they don't, and death rarely comes pretty for animals. They slow and get killed typically.

Have you seen the Wolves of Chernobyl and how they are thriving and doing so well without man despite living in radiation? OK a human can say 'ya but they live a shorter time frame' but that is not something the wolves concern themselves with.

Alright I am braced for the hate as I suspect humans will layer on what they want and fear onto the animals and address this from that perspective. I think the Wolves of Chernobyl arguably live a better, more natural life, than Wolves in nearby territory that is not irradiated but is hunted and cleared and farmed by man.

 

[EyeOfNewt]

Link?

Source is Truth about Chernobyl by Gregori Medvedev (former plant worker at Chernobyl)

"On 4 May, we found the gate valve which had to be opened in order to drain water from the lower part of the suppression pool. There was little water in it. We looked into the upper pool through the hole of the reserve passage and found it empty. I got 2 diving suits and gave them to the soldiers, so that they could go and open the valve. They also used mobile pumps and flexible piping. The new chairman of the government commission, I.S. Silayev, offered a special inducement by promising a car, a dacha, an apartment and benefits for the rest of their lives to the family of anyone killed in this operation who succeeded in opening the valve. Those participating were Ignatenko, Saakov, Bronnikov, Grishchenko, Captain Zborovsky, Lietenant Zlobin, and corporals Oleynik and Navava"

A second account by Sergei Sobolev (deputy head of the Executive Committee of the Shield of Chernobyl Association) said:
"There was a moment where there existed the danger of a nuclear explosion, and they had to get the water out from under the reactor, so that a mixture of uranium and graphite wouldn't get into it- with the water they would have formed a critical mass. The explosion would have been between 3 and 5 megatons, rendering a large part of Europe uninhabitable. Here was the task: who would dive in there and open the bolt on the safety valve? They promised them a car, an apartment, a dacha, aid for their families until the end of time. They searched for volunteers, and found them. The boys dove, many times, and they opened that bolt, and the unit was given 7000 rubles. Those people don't exist anymore, just the documents in our museum, with their names. But what if they hadn't done it? In terms of our readiness for self-sacrifice, we have no equals".

Source is Voices from Chernobyl by Svetlana Alexieich

The Chernobyl disaster has been subject to many cover-ups thus the truth may never be known, but I think this tip is worth investigating, at least to acknowledge those who dove to certain death.

 

[TrueBias]

Meh, I'd kill a thousand dogs if it saves one human life.

Fuck, im in opposite day then.

 

[chickenluver]

For me this lost a bit of pep after I read a debunk article. I actually thought after second episode, that some facts must be exaggerated, but the the show is so damn immersive, that I forgot about my doubts.

Link?