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Hazmat targeted the teeth

Yea you’re right about that. My sister academy had a black belt that was notorious for being mean and kicking the shit out of newbz. He had my back and I just tucked my chin and held onto to my lapels. He laughed out loud and just pummeled his hand in there and cranked the shit out of my face. I was like damn, there ain’t really no defense for that. My coach’s advice was to not wind up there in the first place. I was a blue belt at that point, mind you.
 
khamzat sent a spy to robert's dental clinic in australia. stole the files and found his weak spot

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From the side of your face, there is a “pocket” or more-so of a “valley” between the peak of your cheek bone, and the peak of you chin/bottom jawline

The radius of the arm fits into this pocket very nicely and you can get a lot of head-control as long as you apply constant pressure there

When going for a RNC choke. Its better to cross face this pocket and tilt the head 90*, this will usually always expose the throat, then you simply glide your choke to the neck for a finish

When the guy defending is stubborn, and doesn’t turn his head and/or expose his throat, the arm NATURALLY goes across the teeth and jaw

THIS is where we see the jaw breaks and teeth caving-in happens

Any competent grappler here understands the difficulty getting a choke while on someones back nowadays. The defenses have come a long way and people have been getting better not getting choked. The game is evolving defensively as offensively


The hack to all that is to go for cross-faces as your means to fish for RNC’s, cause you can always crank the jaw/teeth with all your might


Young wrestlers are taught cross-face placement from day 1. So naturally Khamazat will use the technique and blend it with jiu jitsu
 
188912345 said:
Round 2 would had been more of the same until Khamzat found a finish. No way Rob would be fresher than Khamzat in the 2nd round considering he had to carry his weight etc.
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Kham looked visibly more tired than Rob when the fight was finished

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Neck&Neck said:
Kham looked visibly more tired than Rob when the fight was finished

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How? He was screaming on the mic and not even breathing heavy, and he literally jumped and ran around the cage, whittaker didn't look particularly tired but neither did khamzat
 
TriangleMonkey said:
From the side of your face, there is a “pocket” or more-so of a “valley” between the peak of your cheek bone, and the peak of you chin/bottom jawline

The radius of the arm fits into this pocket very nicely and you can get a lot of head-control as long as you apply constant pressure there

When going for a RNC choke. Its better to cross face this pocket and tilt the head 90*, this will usually always expose the throat, then you simply glide your choke to the neck for a finish

When the guy defending is stubborn, and doesn’t turn his head and/or expose his throat, the arm NATURALLY goes across the teeth and jaw

THIS is where we see the jaw breaks and teeth caving-in happens

Any competent grappler here understands the difficulty getting a choke while on someones back nowadays. The defenses have come a long way and people have been getting better not getting choked. The game is evolving defensively as offensively


The hack to all that is to go for cross-faces as your means to fish for RNC’s, cause you can always crank the jaw/teeth with all your might


Young wrestlers are taught cross-face placement from day 1. So naturally Khamazat will use the technique and blend it with jiu jitsu
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Yea man I’m not even trying to say hazmat did this bc he knew about Bobby’s alleged injury. I’m saying that it seems like an area that could be targeted if you can’t get the chin. I’m also wondering if you could drive the radius into the nose.
 
Pequeño Corey said:
Yea man I’m not even trying to say hazmat did this bc he knew about Bobby’s alleged injury. I’m saying that it seems like an area that could be targeted if you can’t get the chin. I’m also wondering if you could drive the radius into the nose.
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Most definitely, you “rake” your ulna and take everything with it, especially a nose

Now, in practice I do it with slight pressure as to not be a douche to my partners, but I do make them point their face where I want with the cross-face, then take the neck

As a competitor, you rip the opponents with no-fucks-given, then proceed to squeeze on teeth and jaw-line if they don’t give you the sweet soft neck, figure-four or palm-2-palm
 
chinarice said:
Whittaker was about to finish Khamzat. Had him right where he wanted him.
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Khamzat got very lucky with that crank bro, if whittaker got into 2nd round khamzat would be so tired that he would have a heart attack in the middle of the fight like kimbo slice, don't you know that khamzat has exactly 5 minutes of cardio and the second it hits round 2 khamzat's opponent is fresh(even though they had to carry his weight the whole round prior) and khamzat is gassed?
 
TriangleMonkey said:
Most definitely, you “rake” your ulna and take everything with it, especially a nose

Now, in practice I do it with slight pressure as to not be a douche to my partners, but I do make them point their face where I want with the cross-face, then take the neck

As a competitor, you rip the opponents with no-fucks-given, then proceed to squeeze on teeth and jaw-line if they don’t give you the sweet soft neck, figure-four or palm-2-palm
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Yea man never learned this kinda shit in class, but realized quickly in my first tourney that these guys do shit that I would never do to my teammates. Dude straight put his forearm in my face and posted on it. I was like wtf?! I understood the assignment after that. Neck cranked that guy with a power guillotine so bad lifted him off the ground. Maybe a dick move, but that’s the game.
 
Pequeño Corey said:
Yea man never learned this kinda shit in class, but realized quickly in my first tourney that these guys do shit that I would never do to my teammates. Dude straight put his forearm in my face and posted on it. I was like wtf?! I understood the assignment after that. Neck cranked that guy with a power guillotine so bad lifted him off the ground. Maybe a dick move, but that’s the game.
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Here’s me cross facing to a finish on a mofo like way back in summer of ‘06

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Pequeño Corey said:
Stud. You got an ammy or pro record?
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Bofa

Did karate (black belt level) and competed kickboxing before all that for years, ISKA regional champ. Im a “striker” that turned in love to grappling when I got convinced to cage-fight long ago

Got my son (9) in youth wrestling going hard in the yard. I know what to create for basic set of skills. That way when he starts jiu jitsu in another year or two he will fold up white belts effortlessly, which he can do now basically
 
Khamzat consulted with an orthodontist before the fight and mapped out his path to beating Robert through a targeted dentition attack. He then obtained Robert's dental records to know his dental deficiencies- that showed Khamzat exactly where to apply the hold.

That shows a VERY high fight IQ.
 
joy2day said:
Khamzat consulted with an orthodontist before the fight and mapped out his path to beating Robert through a targeted dentition attack. He then obtained Robert's dental records to know his dental deficiencies- that showed Khamzat exactly where to apply the hold.

That shows a VERY high fight IQ.
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Yea man this thread got hijacked a bit. I wasn’t trying to imply that hazmat knew about Robert’s alleged condition. Just saying that targeting the mouth is generally an effective technique and not something I ever learned in BJJ.
 
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