Has Jon ever hurt anyone w a punch standing?

[Don Guille S.]

It has to be more with the distribution of slow or fast twitch fibers, determined by genetics, Jon Jones is probably low in type II or fast(sprinters have more of these), and high in type I or slow(endurance athletes have more of these)
Jones can be hella strong displaying raw strength and have a 600 pounds deadlift but not explosive or fast enough to lift a 200 power clean, Ngannou could have the same number in a deadlift but a power clean of 470 pounds, the later exercise displays POWER = force×speed (starting strength)
Translate this analogy to mma, Jones is really strong but not explosive. Mcgregor is very explosive, but probably not very strong overall. You can be strong and fast like ngannu or Yoel and that's the jackpot in genetics for speed based sports. MMA is multifactorial and speed and power is not the only thing that counts, Unlike a 100m race. But Explosive punches= force x speed gets the KO.

 

[Connor McGregor]

It has to be more with the distribution of slow or fast twitch fibers, determined by genetics, Jon Jones is probably low in type II or fast(sprinters have more of these), and high in type I or slow(endurance athletes have more of these)
Jones can be hella strong displaying raw strength and have a 600 pounds deadlift but not explosive or fast enough to lift a 200 power clean, Ngannou could have the same number in a deadlift but a power clean of 470 pounds, the later exercise displays POWER = force×speed (starting strength)
Translate this analogy to mma, Jones is really strong but not explosive. Mcgregor is very explosive, but probably not very strong overall. You can be strong and fast like ngannu or Yoel and that's the jackpot in genetics for speed based sports. MMA is multifactorial and speed and power is not the only thing that counts, Unlike a 100m race. But Explosive punches= force x speed gets the KO.

Disagree, Jon is very explosive and athletic. His brothers are in NFL.

McGregor isn't explosive. He's precise, smart and has good timing. Agreed about Ngannou and Romero. They are very explosive athletes.

 

[Don Guille S.]

Disagree, Jon is very explosive and athletic. His brothers are in NFL.

McGregor isn't explosive. He's precise, smart and has good timing. Agreed about Ngannou and Romero. They are very explosive athletes.

Falacy, your brothers could be really tall and you could be a manlet, the genetic charge in brothers can be really identical or different.

Mcgregor is explosive, that is fact, and also has precision and really good timing among other things. He is a fast starter, he goes off in the first two rounds thanks to his ability to display explosive power. Then he gasses hard, those fibers aren't part of the oxydative way, only glucolitic, they are not prepared for endurance sports, that's why your boy goes to deep waters in later round, timing and precision doesn't get him many ko's there right? You Can't have knockout power without being explosiveexplosive(except at heavyweights) Nate diaz or Colby aren't explosive, they are better in later round because of superior cardio which also is greatly determined by genetics. You can alter it a bit, but not so much, hence why js bettet to play your strong points.

 

[ElLunico]

do you even deontay wilder?

Wilder is super athletic and has great coordination.

Jones has no fast twitch muscle in his body, he is just not

Disagree, Jon is very explosive and athletic. His brothers are in NFL.

McGregor isn't explosive. He's precise, smart and has good timing. Agreed about Ngannou and Romero. They are very explosive athletes.

Lol Jones isnt explosive at all. His bros got the explosive Genes. Why you think they are in the NFL and he is isnt? He has no snap in his punches.

Have you seen him try to dunk a basketball? And he is 6'5

 

[ConorFacts]

It has to be more with the distribution of slow or fast twitch fibers, determined by genetics, Jon Jones is probably low in type II or fast(sprinters have more of these), and high in type I or slow(endurance athletes have more of these)
Jones can be hella strong displaying raw strength and have a 600 pounds deadlift but not explosive or fast enough to lift a 200 power clean, Ngannou could have the same number in a deadlift but a power clean of 470 pounds, the later exercise displays POWER = force×speed (starting strength)
Translate this analogy to mma, Jones is really strong but not explosive. Mcgregor is very explosive, but probably not very strong overall. You can be strong and fast like ngannu or Yoel and that's the jackpot in genetics for speed based sports. MMA is multifactorial and speed and power is not the only thing that counts, Unlike a 100m race. But Explosive punches= force x speed gets the KO.

Efe Ajagaba isnt explosiv, throws arm punches (99% of the time), but trust me … he would knock Mark Hunts head to his ass.

Guys like Ngannou and Romero are bigger (most of the time) than their opponents, so the comparison is unfair.

Stipe tried a few overhands vs Ngannou but Ngannous arms and shoulders were so big ... he couldnt do shit ... thats how big Ngannou is.

 

[pseto223]

McGregor isn't explosive. He's precise, smart and has good timing.

Conor is the definition of a fast-twitch muscle athlete - huge power, great speed, great reflexes, gasses quickly. Not unlike Romero, only difference is Romero is infinitely better with his energy management. Saying Conor is not explosive is just absurd.

 

[CTE_Fan]

Depends on how many pictograms he is on...

 

[I am your real dad]

No.

The best punch he ever threw was at DC after the final bell of their first fight.
It didn't really have much of an effect though.

 

[Portland8242]

Disagree, Jon is very explosive and athletic. His brothers are in NFL.

McGregor isn't explosive. He's precise, smart and has good timing. Agreed about Ngannou and Romero. They are very explosive athletes.

Don't forget about Mendes. In his prime his explosiveness was unreal. The only shitty thing was he had to go through a guy equally as strong and explosive in prime Aldo.

 

[Don Guille S.]

Efe Ajagaba isnt explosiv, throws arm punches (99% of the time), but trust me … he would knock Mark Hunts head to his ass.

Guys like Ngannou and Romero are bigger (most of the time) than their opponents, so the comparison is unfair.

Stipe tried a few overhands vs Ngannou but Ngannous arms and shoulders were so big ... he couldnt do shit ... thats how big Ngannou is.

Not sure where are you trying to get, or if you know some science about the subject. Anyway the fact that someone throws arm punches doesn't alter the fast fibers he has, or his explosive power display ability. Arm punches say more about your technique than about your genetics.
In heavyweights, and I'm reaching a bit here, they can make ko's based in their own mass and the limited power a human chin can take, but those are the end of the spectrum and the exception, not the rule.

 

[ConorFacts]

Not sure where are you trying to get, or if you know some science about the subject. Anyway the fact that someone throws arm punches doesn't alter the fast fibers he has, or his explosive power display ability. Arm punches say more about your technique than about your genetics.
In heavyweights, and I'm reaching a bit here, they can make ko's based in their own mass and the limited force a human chin can take, but those are the end of the spectrum and the exception, not the rule.

bro biomechanics of punches is a super super big Topic.

arm punches are super shit.

feet/hips = your Punch will carry the force of your weight.