International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[Anewt]

yeah man who even cares about the richest man on earth who directly financed the campaign of the only election that matters globally? oh he's a nazi? bah humbug. what really matters here is 33 hostages.

Theres a thread for that ...... and its not this one

 

[BAM]

any comments on elon's nazi salute at the trump inauguration? i know you're super anti-nazi so that must be eating away at you. @kflo as well.

I took it as a deliberate act. I think he wanted to do it for the following reasons:

1. Placate the white nationalists that came after him recently over visas
2. Troll the libs
3. Flex his power. That he could do a nazi salute on the biggest stage and most of the right and the ADL would run cover for him. Similar to Trump's claim he could shoot a guy in the middle of 5th avenue and get away with it.

I dont think he is actually a nazi, just a hard right edgelord. But he will traffic in that antisemetic shit and might believe some of it. What a fucking tool.

 

[Hog-train]

Bibi is corrupt but Hamas empowers him....If Hamas dropped arms and completely surrendered then Bibi would have to deal with his trials. Then, Lapid or whomever is there could work with Abbas to actually implement a two state solution.

Furthermore, shouldn't you be happy about the hostages being released from both sides? Are you more mad about the Israeli Hostages being free than happy about the Palestinian ones being free?

I want all the hostages returned. a true ceasefire to happen and Netanyahu to go to jail.

 

[filthybliss]

I want all the hostages returned. a true ceasefire to happen and Netanyahu to go to jail.

Wouldn’t you want Hamas eviscerated too?

A true ceasefire can’t happen with Jihadis running the show in Gaza.

 

[Hog-train]

Wouldn’t you want Hamas eviscerated too?

A true ceasefire can’t happen with Jihadis running the show in Gaza.

I mean sure but that's asking for a pipe dream. "Why doesn't Hamas unconditionally surrender?!" Uhmmm yea that's like asking Putin to just give up.

And Netanyahu doesn't want Hamas to fail and the PA take over. Because then he has no excuse.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Source: 1 Palestinian activist. Evidence presented: none. Snubnoze fucks given: none

Cute take, unfortunately for you video exists:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/world/video/west-bank-idf-raid-arrests-ldn-digvid

So I reiterate my question, how would this be perceived if the inverse happened?

 

[Koya]

I'm glad to see this thread has fewer and fewer updates.

I look forward to the day it drops of the first page and slowly circles the drain of the Sherdog archives.

That's what's gonna happen yes. Gaza will keep being an enclave surrounded by giant walls and turrets, only now it's infrastructure is 80% destroyed and the real death count will be around 200K which is 10% of the population roughly.

The fact that Israel literally bombed to the ground every university and destroyed almost all healthcare facilities will help bring hope and a bright future away from violence.

But hey at least now we can get back to what we were doing: let the Palestinians fester in their squalor in Gaza and be taken hostages daily in the West Bank, but in silence away from our eyes and our news feed. That's the most important thing.

Until they can't take it anymore and the pressure cooker explodes again and then we go back to being outraged and say everything started on that day and there never was anything before.

 

[SuperAlly]

That's what's gonna happen yes. Gaza will keep being an enclave surrounded by giant walls and turrets, only now it's infrastructure is 80% destroyed and the real death count will be around 200K which is 10% of the population roughly.

The fact that Israel literally bombed to the ground every university and destroyed almost all healthcare facilities will help bring hope and a bright future away from violence.

But hey at least now we can get back to what we were doing: let the Palestinians fester in their squalor in Gaza and be taken hostages daily in the West Bank, but in silence away from our eyes and our news feed. That's the most important thing.

Until they can't take it anymore and the pressure cooker explodes again and then we go back to being outraged and say everything started on that day and there never was anything before.

There was no squalor in gaza before the Palestinians went on a genocidal rampage in israel. There were 5* star hotels.

So again your "get back to..." scenario is a lie

A* for consistency though

It's the ultimate FAFO story really

 

[SuperAlly]

Until they can't take it anymore and the pressure cooker explodes again and then we go back to being outraged and say everything started on that day and there never was anything before.

Both sides can highlight past grievances.

Maybe it's time to make the best of what you can now rather than trying to genocide a superior country (militarily) that will hit you back harder than you can ever hit them.

Or, continue to make your own situation worse.

Both seem like good options to be fair...

 

[Koya]

It's ok when terroristillegal settlers attack women and farmers picking olives on their own land with protection of the israeli army. It's not a way to bypass the ceasefire by shifting the violence from Gaza to the west bank, and show that they have no intention of holding their fire against Palestinians.

Just close your eyes and ears until the next tragedy sadly come and then act like nothing happened before it was all in a vacuum

 

[SuperAlly]

The problem with this propagandist style of posting, littered usually with lies and dubious sources - and then ignoring it when challenged on the questionable parts or outright lies - is people switch off to your propaganda.

They don't click your links and they don't pay it any attention

So on the rare occasions you might have something valid to share it gets dismissed as more nonsense propaganda under a tsunami of nonsense propaganda

 

[Koya]

Look at the applause and claps and when they do it. Truly they tell your their genocidal intent loud and clear. From their own mouth on their own TV sets. You be the judge of that.

 

[evergreenrider]

Look at the applause and claps and when they do it. Truly they tell your their genocidal intent loud and clear. From their own mouth on their own TV sets. You be the judge of that.

Literal demons

 

[cincymma79]

So anyway odds on a real deal finally getting fucking signed

 

[filthybliss]

I mean sure but that's asking for a pipe dream. "Why doesn't Hamas unconditionally surrender?!"

If they value their lives and rebuilding the community, they should. Several Hostages were returned on their side too. That isn't unconditional....

That's what's gonna happen yes. Gaza will keep being an enclave surrounded by giant walls and turrets, only now it's infrastructure is 80% destroyed and the real death count will be around 200K which is 10% of the population roughly.

Ask yourself why does Hamas avoid wearing uniforms?

Why do they shoot rockets from hospitals?

Why doesn't Hamas protect the innocent people of Gaza that they dragged into this war?

Why do they sabotage the aid that is shipped for the civilians in Gaza?

Why does Hamas shoot rockets from the evacuation zones?

It is almost like they don't give a fuck at all about the innocent Palestinian civilians....

There was no squalor in gaza before the Palestinians went on a genocidal rampage in israel. There were 5* star hotels.

So again your "get back to..." scenario is a lie

A* for consistency though

It's the ultimate FAFO story really

This isn't true but for reasons different than Koya thinks. The unemployment and poverty rate is astonishingly high in the strip. Their entire economy banks on international aid entirely. The dictatorship of Hamas focuses on building rockets/tunnels and destroying Israel instead of manufacturing jobs, food plants, etc. to improve the community with that support....So Hamas has clearly shown to be virus to all of the those around them.

A year of war: Unemployment surges to nearly 80 per cent and GDP contracts by almost 85 per cent in Gaza

www.ilo.org

International Aid to the Palestinians: Between Politicization and Development

Following the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1993, an international conference was held in Washington to assure the financial solvency of the newly-established Palestinian National Authority (PA). Key goals at the time included financing...

arabcenterdc.org

 

[Halifax]

I'm glad to see this thread has fewer and fewer updates.

I look forward to the day it drops of the first page and slowly circles the drain of the Sherdog archives.

Pretty much. There isn't much more winning Israel can do at this point, so why keep posting about it lol. Most hamas leadership have been rightfully destroyed, Hezbollah is shattered and a bunch of them had their beanbags blown off in one of the greatest covert targetted operations ever , Iran collapsed like a paper tiger and even Assad is gone in Syria.

All that's left now is whining from the losing side and that's pretty boring

After the 50th regular season win with Gretzky, most oiler fans didn’t stick around as long for the post game celebration and just left to beat traffic lol. But we will always be back for the playoffs

 

[Anewt]

Pretty much. There isn't much more winning Israel can do at this point, so why keep posting about it lol. Most hamas leadership have been rightfully destroyed, Hezbollah is shattered and a bunch of them had their beanbags blown off in one of the greatest covert targetted operations ever , Iran collapsed like a paper tiger and even Assad is gone in Syria.

All that's left now is whining from the losing side and that's pretty boring

After the 50th regular season win with Gretzky, most oiler fans didn’t stick around as long for the post game celebration and just left to beat traffic lol. But we will always be back for the playoffs

Nah its a bit worse. The ref aint stopping the game

 

[Hog-train]

If they value their lives and rebuilding the community, they should. Several Hostages were returned on their side too. That isn't unconditional....

They don't value rebuilding the community nor care about lives. So stop asking for something that will never happen in a million years.

And Netanyahu had a hand in them retaining power for years by helping to fund the. Yet another reason he should be in jail.

 

[Strychnine]

So anyway odds on a real deal finally getting fucking signed

 

[BAM]

Yeah, I dont think a permanent deal is part of the Bibi plan. Rather I think that group wants to keep a status quo of sorts that allows them to quietly snatch territory from Gaza/West Bank over a long period of time. The slow erosion of a Palestinian state where the remainder are left to semi-autonomous zones within a 1 state Israel. Like American Indian reservations or Transnistria