International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[Koya]

Not a terrorist army at all. Just send attack dogs on 3 years old while holding their fathers at gunpoint. Totally normal.

 

[kflo]

Two people who obviously, clearly, and definitively didn't commit any terrorism or any attack.

But they're not similar.

- @kflo

You're washed, bro.

So you think someone who has intimate details of an imminent terror attack and who is going to carry it out and does nothing to stop it or notify authorities is completely innocent of wrongdoing? No different than simply being someone’s granddaughter?

No, they are not similar. Hopefully you know this and you’re just intentionally gaslighting….

 

[kflo]

WTF kind of gaslighting is this. You literally just tried to downplay and cast doubt on the number of deaths 2 posts ago.

International - Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

Strike two today for shitty coverage from the BBC. “The UN agency said it verified the details of 8,119 people killed in Gaza from November 2023 to April 2024. Its analysis found around 44% of verified victims were children and 26% women. The ages most represented among the dead were five to...

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Don’t link to my post.

Quote the part that downplays the number of deaths.

 

[kflo]

when you lie and bullshit as much as he does, it's hard to keep a story straight.

Quote me……

You are as guilty of making quotes up as he is.

 

[Jon!]

So you think someone who has intimate details of an imminent terror attack and who is going to carry it out and does nothing to stop it or notify authorities is completely innocent of wrongdoing? No different than simply being someone’s granddaughter?

No, they are not similar. Hopefully you know this and you’re just intentionally gaslighting….

Yeah, of course, that's the reason Netanyahu wants to do this. He'll investigate, naturally, and when he finds out these family members didn't have intimate knowledge, he'll drop it instantly.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Quote me……

You are as guilty of making quotes up as he is.

"Hamas had reported 35k deaths through April. So the only month missing is October. So the sample is a fraction of the total and they don’t provide any details on the “unverified” deaths.

This puts it closer to 50% and claims the data was the worst in April…."

not downplaying deaths, just downplaying deaths and also claiming any sort of state report comes directly from hamas

 

[kflo]

Yeah, of course, that's the reason Netanyahu wants to do this. He'll investigate, naturally, and when he finds out these family members didn't have intimate knowledge, he'll drop it instantly.

Ah, so you’re moving the goal posts now! lol.

So we agree that immediate family with knowledge of a terror attack that does nothing is NOT the same as being the granddaughter of a nazi.

Thx for playing.

 

[kflo]

"Hamas had reported 35k deaths through April. So the only month missing is October. So the sample is a fraction of the total and they don’t provide any details on the “unverified” deaths.

This puts it closer to 50% and claims the data was the worst in April…."

not downplaying deaths, just downplaying deaths and also claiming any sort of state report comes directly from hamas

can you read?

The 70% was determined on a fraction of the total deaths, and a different method calculated it at closer to 50%. I didn’t “downplay” the number of deaths.

And yes, the death count still comes from Hamas.

 

[Jon!]

Ah, so you’re moving the goal posts now! lol.

So we agree that immediate family with knowledge of a terror attack that does nothing is NOT the same as being the granddaughter of a nazi.

Thx for playing.

They're not going to prove that lmao

They don't care about that, clown pants

If they remotely gave a shit about relatives actually having knowledge, the move to deport family members would be directly linked to a specific case



Oh, bless you.

You are so lost and confused.
The best part is, it's probably going to get struck down by Israel because it's dumb as shit, but here you are - full support, as always.

This was your chance to show you're not totally mindless and can sometimes disagree with Netanyahu when he's obviously wrong, and you've failed.

A new law allows Israel to deport the relatives of attackers. Experts expect it to be struck down

The law could also be seen as a form of collective punishment and as discriminatory, because it appears to only apply to Arab citizens and residents, and not to family members of Jews convicted under terrorism laws.

www.pbs.org

Oded Feller, a legal adviser to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, dismissed the law as “populist nonsense.” He said it was unlikely to be applied, because there is no legal way for the Interior Ministry to send an Israeli citizen to another country or to Gaza.

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Do you see what this means, @kflo? You are a mindless populist. You are as smart and intelligent and nuanced as the blindest MAGA/Trump supporter lol.

His organization doesn’t plan to challenge the law unless authorities try to enforce it, in which case he expects any court challenge to succeed.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

can you read?

The 70% was determined on a fraction of the total deaths, and a different method calculated it at closer to 50%. I didn’t “downplay” the number of deaths.

And yes, the death count still comes from Hamas.

not downplaying btw also everyone who posts anything that proves me wrong is a terrorist and so are all the sources

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

They're not going to prove that lmao

They don't care about that, clown pants

If they remotely gave a shit about relatives actually having knowledge, the move to deport family members would be directly linked to a specific case



Oh, bless you.

You are so lost and confused.
The best part is, it's probably going to get struck down by Israel because it's dumb as shit, but here you are - full support, as always.

This was your chance to show you're not totally mindless and can sometimes disagree with Netanyahu when he's obviously wrong, and you've failed.

A new law allows Israel to deport the relatives of attackers. Experts expect it to be struck down

The law could also be seen as a form of collective punishment and as discriminatory, because it appears to only apply to Arab citizens and residents, and not to family members of Jews convicted under terrorism laws.

www.pbs.org

Oded Feller, a legal adviser to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, dismissed the law as “populist nonsense.” He said it was unlikely to be applied, because there is no legal way for the Interior Ministry to send an Israeli citizen to another country or to Gaza.

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Do you see what this means, @kflo? You are a mindless populist. You are as smart and intelligent and nuanced as the blindest MAGA/Trump supporter lol.

His organization doesn’t plan to challenge the law unless authorities try to enforce it, in which case he expects any court challenge to succeed.

 

[Jon!]

It was literally a free hit

"Here is a ridiculous fascist concept that you obviously disagree with, now disagree with it."

@kflo: "I... I can't... it's genius..."

 

[kflo]

They're not going to prove that lmao

They don't care about that, clown pants

If they remotely gave a shit about relatives actually having knowledge, the move to deport family members would be directly linked to a specific case



Oh, bless you.

You are so lost and confused.
The best part is, it's probably going to get struck down by Israel because it's dumb as shit, but here you are - full support, as always.

This was your chance to show you're not totally mindless and can sometimes disagree with Netanyahu when he's obviously wrong, and you've failed.

A new law allows Israel to deport the relatives of attackers. Experts expect it to be struck down

The law could also be seen as a form of collective punishment and as discriminatory, because it appears to only apply to Arab citizens and residents, and not to family members of Jews convicted under terrorism laws.

www.pbs.org

Oded Feller, a legal adviser to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, dismissed the law as “populist nonsense.” He said it was unlikely to be applied, because there is no legal way for the Interior Ministry to send an Israeli citizen to another country or to Gaza.

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Do you see what this means, @kflo? You are a mindless populist. You are as smart and intelligent and nuanced as the blindest MAGA/Trump supporter lol.

His organization doesn’t plan to challenge the law unless authorities try to enforce it, in which case he expects any court challenge to succeed.

lol. I didn’t support the law. I noted what its stated intent is.

And lol at the lengths you’re going to to try to distance the discussion away from “supporting terrorists and enabling terror attacks is no different than being the granddaughter of a nazi” - it is hilarious.

Just give it up. We’ve established they are not at all the same.

Do you think a granddaughter of a nazi is a nazi and guilty of anything?

 

[Jon!]

lol. I didn’t support the law. I noted what its stated intent is.

And lol at the lengths you’re going to to try to distance the discussion away from “supporting terrorists and enabling terror attacks is no different than being the granddaughter of a nazi” is hilarious.

Just give it up. We’ve established they are not at all the same.

Do you think a granddaughter of a nazi is a nazi and guilty of anything?

Nah, I know that a grandchild isn't culpable.

I also know that a criminal's family isn't culpable.

I'd watch Netanyahu swing tomorrow, but not his wife or children. I'm not a psychotic populist.

You are. You're an extremist.

 

[kflo]

Nah, I know that a grandchild isn't culpable.

I also know that a criminal's family isn't culpable.

I'd watch Netanyahu swing tomorrow, but not his wife or children. I'm not a psychotic populist.

You are. You're an extremist.

Again, you’re just blatantly lying about what I’ve said. You won’t find a quote where I hold a criminals family culpable for the actions of family members. I would hold culpable someone who allowed a terror attack to happen knowingly. You’ve tried to pretend they are no different.

You apparently are ok with allowing terror attacks to happen.

Stop lying about what I’ve said. You all do it constantly. The quote feature exists for a reason.

 

[Jon!]

Again, you’re just blatantly lying about what I’ve said. You won’t find a quote where I hold a criminals family culpable for the actions of family members. I would hold culpable someone who allowed a terror attack to happen knowingly.

You apparently are ok with allowing terror attacks to happen.

Stop lying about what I’ve said. You all do it constantly. The quote feature exists for a reason.

All right, let's run it back.

You know what the law is, and you know who is trying to propose it.

You also know who objects (almost everyone), and you must understand it can't possibly be enforced because it's that ridiculous.

So here's your chance, you can have it again, this is a do over:

Hey @kflo, that proposed law to start exporting the family members of terrorists is pretty stupid, no?

 

[kflo]

All right, let's run it back.

You know what the law is, and you know who is trying to propose it.

You also know who objects (almost everyone), and you must understand it can't possibly be enforced because it's that ridiculous.

So here's your chance, you can have it again, this is a do over:

Hey @kflo, that proposed law to start exporting the family members of terrorists is pretty stupid, no?

lol.

First, stop lying about the law. It is not “exporting the family members of terrorists”.

Then stop lying about what I’ve said. I’ve said part of the law was to hold accountable immediate family members who allow and enable terror attacks they know are about to happen to happen, and that is easy to support (hell even hog-train agrees).

Then acknowledge that you tried to pretend being the granddaughter of a nazi was no different than being a family member who supports terrorism.

Basically, stop making shit up and acknowledge you were wrong trying to equate the 2 above.

If there was a proposed law to deport citizens for merely being the family member of a terrorist it would obviously be bullshit and shouldn’t be supported.

 

[Jon!]

lol.

First, stop lying about the law. It is not “exporting the family members of terrorists”.

Then stop lying about what I’ve said. I’ve said part of the law was to hold accountable immediate family members who allow and enable terror attacks they know are about to happen to happen, and that is easy to support (hell even hog-train agrees).

Then acknowledge that you tried to pretend being the granddaughter of a nazi was no different than being a family member who supports terrorism.

Basically, stop making shit up and acknowledge you were wrong trying to equate the 2 above.

If there was a proposed law to deport someone for merely being the family member of a terrorist it would obviously be bullshit and shouldn’t be supported.

D'OH!

I knew you'd flail around like an ant in quicksand.

Moving on from your perpetual populism, when did I pretend being the granddaughter of a Nazi was the same as being a family member who supports terrorism?

All I did was laugh at you for being unable to see that it's the same side of the same coin.

You can't start deporting family members for crimes a relative committed, end of discussion.

You can throw them in jail, of course, if you think they should have prevented the crime in question - but you can't forcibly remove them from their home country.

That is fascism, and you are a fascist.

 

[kflo]

D'OH!

I knew you'd flail around like an ant in quicksand.

Moving on from your perpetual populism, when did I pretend being the granddaughter of a Nazi was the same as being a family member who supports terrorism?

All I did was laugh at you for being unable to see that it's the same side of the same coin.

You can't start deporting family members for crimes a relative committed, end of discussion.

You can throw them in jail, of course, if you think they should have prevented the crime in question - but you can't forcibly remove them from their home country.

That is fascism, and you are a fascist.

Let me give you some quick lessons on posting. Here, you see me directly quoting the discussion. And here’s where you’ll see YOU pretend “being the granddaughter of a Nazi was the same as being a family member who supports terrorism”……

Lol! Earlier the discussion was on immediate family that knew about terror attacks and didn’t intervene or contact authorities.

This is calling the granddaughter of a nazi a nazi.

And you think it’s similar. Hahaha.

Cmon guys. Do better.

Two people who obviously, clearly, and definitively didn't commit any terrorism or any attack.

But they're not similar.

- @kflo

You're washed, bro.

You’ll find NO quote of me supporting deporting family members for the crimes of others.

 

[Jon!]

You’ll find NO quote of me supporting deporting family members for the crimes of others.

So now you don't support the deporting of family members.

That's good.

Thank you for running that back.

Can you now explain why it took this long to denounce an obviously fascist policy imagined by an obviously fascist POS like Netanyahu?