Pro Palestinians genius. Like YOU.Yep the Palestinians got time to protest while being bombed to death
Pro Palestinians genius. Like YOU.Yep the Palestinians got time to protest while being bombed to death
No amount of false equivalents will excuse what Hamas have done and continue to do. I don't think Mandela's party murdered civilians in cold blood Oct 7th style. Hamas would have likely got a pass from the Western liberals had they done their usual terrorist attacks on military targets or even limited random strike on civilians. But no, these psychopaths decided to get high and go murder, torture, maim, rape, etc women, children, babies, elderly, etc....in the most gruesome ways.....
I don't think I have ever argued that Americans or Western hands are clean. Yet I doubt you'd find this type of terroristic massacre style planning by Western regimes in recent past.
Quite the level of discourse you’ve resorted to. You’ve turned into quite the speaker….
Lol at “the priority is not Hamas”……that’s your problem.
The idf making mistakes in war is……..war. It happens in every war. Every one. Israel should be taking steps to ensure the probability of mistakes is near 0. But they still have a fighting enemy who doesn’t care about casualties.
Yes, innocent lives are at stake. So is the future of the region. Again, you can’t seem to see past the next day, and you have no answer for what comes next. You want to sweep terrorism to the side, look past hostages, and just sing kumbaya.
Hamas is accountable for starting this war, and keeping hostages, and fighting amongst civilians from civilian spaces and following no rules of war and not surrendering. They are accountable for that, whether you want to accept it or not.
Quite the level of discourse you’ve resorted to. You’ve turned into quite the speaker….
Lol at “the priority is not Hamas”……that’s your problem.
The idf making mistakes in war is……..war. It happens in every war. Every one. Israel should be taking steps to ensure the probability of mistakes is near 0. But they still have a fighting enemy who doesn’t care about casualties.
Yes, innocent lives are at stake. So is the future of the region. Again, you can’t seem to see past the next day, and you have no answer for what comes next. You want to sweep terrorism to the side, look past hostages, and just sing kumbaya.
Hamas is accountable for starting this war, and keeping hostages, and fighting amongst civilians from civilian spaces and following no rules of war and not surrendering. They are accountable for that, whether you want to accept it or not.
I mean they were definitely deserving of 10/7 amirite?"Our leadership is cowardly and driven by political consideration, which is why this deal has not happened yet"
"Prime Minister, war cabinet, and coalition members: Look at yourself in the mirror and say if your hands didn't spill blood."
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Fuck Israeli extremists.
"But it's all Hamas' fault for all mistakes" cry Sherdoggers who can't think.
Who doesn't accept that Hamas are accountable for what they're doing? Nobody.
Who doesn't accept that the IDF are accountable for what they're doing? Quite a few people, or so it seems.
The future of the region is at stake? This is the kind of populist nonsense that makes me understand why you've aligned with people like Boris Johnson here.
I've read a few statements like this, the future of the region is at stake, calling for a ceasefire would be 'abandoning' Israel, what nonsense. Tell me all about Hamas' current capabilities, please, and how they're an existential threat to Israel? Because if they're not, there's absolutely no reason why the IDF can't turn it all right down right now. They don't automatically get to build arms back up to the level they can repeat the October attacks - that would take a lot of time, time during which Gaza can be monitored very heavily by Israel, the United States and other allies to ensure that doesn't happen. Keep hunting Hamas members and officials, but outside of the disgraceful and reckless levels of bombardment so many innocent Gazans are being subjected to and slaughtered in.
Meanwhile, the reality of your 'the future of the region is at stake' is seeing bloodthirsty extremists in the Likud regime bring the region to the brink of all out war. So yeah, you might actually be right, the future of the region might be at stake if Israel are allowed to continue on their idiotic and senseless war path.
But you continue hiding behind nonsensical populist talking points and adopting right wing narratives.
Israel not Jews you anti semtie!
So they went from getting ethnically cleansed by nazis to ethnically cleansing, illegally occupying land and suppressing the only place that welcomed them post holocaust? Cool take.
I put a picture in your post above so you can illustrate the occupation and genocide side you are supporting
"Israel is a country that has no place on our land,"This is you right here, Soyjack:
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Again, guys like you don’t really care about the future of the people of Gaza.
You don’t even engage in discourse. You’ve turned into just a dick in this thread. You don’t want to discuss. You want to rage against the other side. Without actually discussing the topic.
Your entire discourse is why Israel must continue to kill the innocent people of Gaza.
Delete account.
You don’t seem to be able to acknowledge that Hamas is STILL the governing body of Gaza. They represent the people of Gaza. They aren’t just a rogue terror group. They still rule over the people of Gaza and make the decisions for Gaza. They waged war. And continue to fight that war.
Again, guys like you don’t really care about the future of the people of Gaza. It’s why you never even discuss it.
You’d be happy going back to 10/6, with Gaza isolated and the people under rule of Hamas, and blaming israel for the restrictions on Gaza and the plight of the people there. And Hamas will continue plotting, investing in terror and not their people, and you’ll feel good about siding against Israel for the situation there.
It’s why you don’t discuss what comes on day 2. It’s easy to just cry “ceasefire”. But that’s just a cop out because it’s only day 1. It solves nothing. Day 2+ is the hard part. You don’t care about that part.
You don’t even engage in discourse. You’ve turned into just a dick in this thread. You don’t want to discuss. You want to rage against the other side. Without actually discussing the topic.
Like I said, you don’t engage in what comes next. Just day 1. You don’t care about the future. You’ll blame Israel when the time comes.
He's been asked the same question about 100 times and every time he finds a way to avoid answering it before turning to personal abuse.Who doesn't accept that Hamas are accountable for what they're doing? Nobody.
Who doesn't accept that the IDF are accountable for what they're doing? Quite a few people, or so it seems.
The future of the region is at stake? This is the kind of populist nonsense that makes me understand why you've aligned with people like Boris Johnson here.
I've read a few statements like this, the future of the region is at stake, calling for a ceasefire would be 'abandoning' Israel, what nonsense. Tell me all about Hamas' current capabilities, please, and how they're an existential threat to Israel? Because if they're not, there's absolutely no reason why the IDF can't turn it all right down right now. They don't automatically get to build arms back up to the level they can repeat the October attacks - that would take a lot of time, time during which Gaza can be monitored very heavily by Israel, the United States and other allies to ensure that doesn't happen. Keep hunting Hamas members and officials, but outside of the disgraceful and reckless levels of bombardment so many innocent Gazans are being subjected to and slaughtered in.
Meanwhile, the reality of your 'the future of the region is at stake' is seeing bloodthirsty extremists in the Likud regime bring the region to the brink of all out war. So yeah, you might actually be right, the future of the region might be at stake if Israel are allowed to continue on their idiotic and senseless war path.
But you continue hiding behind nonsensical populist talking points and adopting right wing narratives.
Lol. Yeah, I’m the one turning to personal abuse……He's been asked the same question about 100 times and every time he finds a way to avoid answering it before turning to personal abuse.
You don’t even engage in discourse. You’ve turned into just a dick in this thread. You don’t want to discuss. You want to rage against the other side. Without actually discussing the topic.
Like I said, you don’t engage in what comes next. Just day 1. You don’t care about the future. You’ll blame Israel when the time comes.
They are a terrorist organization that governs Gaza. Those are 2 truths.either Hamas is a terrorist organization or it’s a legitimate government. What you like to do is use each term that makes whatever horror Israel has committed acceptable.
Yeah, see above. They elected a murderous terror regime to govern them. But you think they should have had full sovereignty and autonomy. It’s absurd fantasy.No one with any sense has said pre 10/7 was acceptable. Gaza was being blockaded for 20 years.
What you like to do like Israel does is divide the Palestinian people into two seperate groups as if they have two separate issues: they don’t.
Palestinian people are being oppressed and things weren’t fine; Israel is dividing up the West Bank piece by piece.
Lmfao do you actually believe the shit you write? No one is going to talk about day 2 if people just continue to die on day 1. No one wants to talk about day 2 when the West Bank is being illegally settled.
Mossad hunted down individual nazi’s for decades. But the nazi’s were not governing Germany. You see, the Nazi’s unconditionally surrendered, and were no longer a thing.That's not true. I literally said Israel can continue to hunt Hamas members, but it would have to look more like Mossad hunting down Nazis in a post-war environment.
But that doesn't allow for the continued mass murder of Palestinians, so you continue to be a dishonest actor and pretend I didn't say anything.
You've completely lost your way, there is no point engaging with you. You ignore everything that doesn't suit what you're saying and keep asking the same questions over and over no matter how often people answer them.
101Lol. Yeah, I’m the one turning to personal abuse……