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Israeli inquiry findings on aid worker killings lack credibility, charity says​

WCK renews call for independent investigation as former general blames incident on ‘grave errors’

World Central Kitchen has rejected as lacking credibility the findings of an Israeli investigation led by a former general into a coordinated series of Israeli drone strikes on the charity’s vehicles in Gaza this week that killed seven aid workers.

As the Israel Defense Forces blamed a series of “grave errors” by officers for the deadly attack that killed three Britons, three other foreign nationals and a Palestinian colleague while delivering food, WCK renewed its calls for a full and independent investigation.

Amid mounting international pressure on Israel, the British foreign secretary, David Cameron, said the findings of the Israeli inquiry – which he said the UK was reviewing carefully – showed that “major reform” was required.

“It’s clear major reform of Israel’s deconfliction mechanism is badly needed to ensure the safety of aid workers,” Cameron said on X.

The hurriedly completed inquiry, which led to two middle-ranking officers being dismissed and a general reprimanded, outlined a catalogue of failings by Israeli forces in an incident that has reinforced global criticism of Israel’s conduct of a war in which 33,000 Palestinians have been killed in six months.

While welcoming the report as a first step, WCK’s founder, the celebrity chef José Andrés, said: “The IDF cannot credibly investigate its own failure in Gaza. It’s not enough to simply try to avoid further humanitarian deaths, which have now approached close to 200. All civilians need to be protected, and all innocent people in Gaza need to be fed and safe. And all hostages must be released.”

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The charity’s chief executive, Erin Gore, said: “Their apologies for the outrageous killing of our colleagues represent cold comfort. It’s cold comfort for the victims’ families and WCK’s global family. Israel needs to take concrete steps to assure the safety of humanitarian aid workers. Our operations remain suspended.”

WCK’s remarks were echoed by the UN secretary general, António Guterres, who said fixing failings in Israel’s military procedures required “independent investigations” and meaningful and measurable changes on the ground.

Noting that 196 humanitarian workers had been killed during Israel’s campaign, Guterres said: “We want to know why.”

The announcement of punishments and the apology have not calmed the international outcry over the WCK workers’ deaths or reassured international aid groups that it is safe to resume operations in Gaza, where nearly a third of the population is on the brink of starvation.

The US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, said the US was reviewing the findings and would be looking very carefully at what concrete measures Israel was taking to reduce civilian harm.

“It’s very important that Israel is taking full responsibility for this incident. It’s also important that it appears to be taking steps to hold those responsible accountable,” he said in Brussels. “Even more important is that steps are being taken going forward to ensure that something like this can never happen again.”

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The Israeli military commission of inquiry blamed a series of “grave errors” by military personnel, including lack of coordination and misidentification. The IDF said it had dismissed a brigade chief of staff with the rank of colonel and a brigade fire support officer with the rank of major, and issued formal reprimands to senior officers including the general at the head of the southern command.

The rapidly completed investigation failed to resolve key questions including why soldiers from the Nahal brigade responsible were unaware that humanitarian vehicles were operating in the area with IDF permission, and why commanders launched an attack that the IDF said was in flagrant breach of its operational rules.

The findings are likely to renew scepticism over the military’s decision-making. Palestinians, aid groups and human rights organisations have repeatedly accused Israeli forces of firing recklessly at civilians throughout the conflict – a charge Israel denies.

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Among those questioning whether the report was sufficiently thorough was Charlie Herbert, a retired British general who has been a trenchant critic of Israel’s operations during the current conflict.

“Two quite junior officers dismissed,” Herbert tweeted. “Presumably for very bad judgment, with tragic consequences. But the real issue here is an institutional one with IDF rules of engagement and disregard for ‘collateral damage’. This is the reason for huge civilian casualties since October.”

Scott Paul, of Oxfam, said in a briefing with other relief organisations on Thursday before the results of Israel’s investigation were released: “Let’s be very clear. This is tragic but it is not an anomaly. The killing of aid workers in Gaza has been systemic.”

The Israeli military said the investigation found that the officers mishandled critical information and violated the army’s rules of engagement.

“The strike on the aid vehicles is a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification, errors in decision-making, and an attack contrary to the standard operating procedures,” it said.

The investigation determined that a colonel had authorised the series of drone strikes on the convoy based on one major’s observation – from grainy drone-camera footage – that someone in the convoy was armed. The observation turned out to be untrue.

It criticised officers for failing to read messages alerting troops that cars, not aid trucks, would carry workers from the charity away from the warehouse where aid was distributed. As a result, the targeted cars were misidentified as transporting militants.

The army also faulted a major who identified the strike target and a colonel who approved the strike for acting with insufficient information.

The army said it initially hit one car. As people scrambled away into a second car, it hit that vehicle as well. A third strike was launched as survivors scrambled into a third car.

The IDF was unable to say exactly where communication had broken down about the convoy’s plans and declined to answer questions about whether similar violations of rules of engagement had taken place during the war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...illings-on-grave-errors-by-military-personnel

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- Biden suported the genocide. Only changed sides because of the elections!
 
Koya said:
This thread is a waste of time. I'm out of it. It's human beings with a heart vs psychopaths who advocate for genocide and ethnic cleansing and excuse everything in the name of their colonialist country that they believe is a God given right according to their religious book.

They excuse murder of 33K people, 14K children, 9K women, destruction of 400 schools including all the universities, destruction of water wells, disablement of more than 20 hospitals, destruction from ground to top of the biggest hospital in the north, mass torture of civilian on concentration camps, starving of 1.1 Million people, babies dying of starvation, people boiling tree leaves to eat them, 2000lb bombs dropped on residential areas, mass killing of starving civilians that gather for bread, killing of human aid workers, displacement of millions of people then bombing them in the safe areas and so many, use of AI to drop 600 bombs a day, killing of more 100 persons a day not counting the wounded or disappeared, blocking humanitarian aid and so many other

Oh and we'll write children chorus song and top chart pop songs about your suffering and consume the images of the concentration camps as entertainment on our Israeli TV channels

All is good in the name of Israel. Palestinians aren't humans they must be exterminated they're just pests, please Americans obey to us and fund us and support us or we will threaten you with antisemitism.

also we have a firm grip on your country through AIPAC, dozens of paid senators, control of the mainstream media and Hollywood. We are ready to destroy your international credibility oh America if you don't obey the great Israel, we attacked our previous patron the UK when they didn't obey, obey us or if we go down you go down too. You're too stupid to open your eyes anyway.

F all the psychopaths here, seriously may your eyes never find rest. May your eyes never find rest. May your eyes never find rest.

We are not forgetting how you genocided us in international apathy but with their help, never will we inshallah
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Oh shut up. We all know you’ll be back spamming silly shit you found on social media in a few days just like the other times you threw this tantrum. Kind of like how you ask a mod not to respond to you and then keep calling him out.
 
Voodoo_Child906 said:
The former is more believable right now, but you're right, monumental fuck up if they were actually trying to intimidate aid agencies! I can't possibly think they'd be that dumb.

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Agreed. I think it's more likely to be relatively low-ranking soldiers ignoring SOP's/ROE's and getting trigger-happy.
 
Pay attention this Wednesday, April 10.
Final day of Ramadan, EID al-Fitr.
Day of Charity, Reflections and Celebration.
Hopefully no hostile groups co-op this day.
 
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mjfan23 said:
It is a forum about human cockfighting so it attracts a right wing racist or two and some of em are mods unfortunately.
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LOL @ saying that to an open anti-semite, who thinks Jews are putting big black cocks in their movies to make his wife thirst for them.

The site certainly does attract "certain types"...
 
Yorick said:
Pay attention this Wednesday, April 10.
Final day of Ramadan, EID al-Fitr.
Day of Charity, Reflections and Celebration.
Hopefully no hostile groups co-op this day.
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Tomorrow is the six month anniversary of the 10/7 attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to mark that special occasion as well. :rolleyes:
 
DEVILsSON said:
I can't quite tell if you're being satirical or if you really expect us to give the same benefit of doubt to an entity designated as terrorists by US/EU....

Did you also give benefit of doubt to ISIS and Al Queda?

I am not saying IDF is beyond reproach but your comment is beyond insane if you're serious.
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The reason they deserve the benefit of the doubt is BECAUSE they were given that designation. The past 50 years has shown that the US always blatantly lies about their geopolitical oppositions and slanders endlessly. Of course they deserve the benefit of the doubt. Look at all the wonderful leftist regimes that fell to US lies. Look at Libya. Nelson Mandela and his party were also considered "terrorists" by the state department. Why tf wouldn't they be given the benefit of the doubt?
 
CNN stating the obvious that Israel never had a plan aside from rage and bloodlust

. “I think even American officials realize, belatedly, that it’s complete madness, that people are allowing this horror to continue as though the goal of destroying Hamas was more important than anything else in the world, including Israel’s own future security,” he said.

“It’s divorced from reality because even if you destroy Hamas, you’re creating something that will be much worse than the future. Because now you have 30,000 people who are dead, 17,000 orphans … what is their view of Israel and the United States going to be when they grow up?”
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Chad R. Thundercock said:
Get what? You should stop talking in this cryptic manner and get straight to the fucking point.

"You don't get it."
"You don't know how to Sherdog."
"You just don't get it, do you?"
"I believe there's a global Jewish conspiracy to plant as many BBCs in the media to make my wife thirst for them."
"You suck at Sherdog."
"Why can't you just get it already?"
"Do you know how to Sherdog?"



What's my take on soup?

Well...since you asked so nicely there, my favorite soups are (in no order of importance):
  • French onion soup in a bread bowl
  • Broccoli cheese
  • Chicken noodle
  • Menudo
  • Pozole
  • Borscht
  • Clam chowder
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Borscht? Commie.

Clam Chowdah above all.
 
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